ATI Radeon HD 5670: DirectX 11 For Under $99

[hundredislandsboy]

The main point is in the title of the article, DX 11 for less than a $100 (as the Nvidia fanboys look away and shrink). Lol...

 

[caamsa]

I am surprised that you guys didn't use the 4850 instead of the 4770 which is a pretty rare card. I assume you didn't have one laying around and the 4770 has similar performance to the 4850?

 

[jojesa]

For $10 or less you could have got a Displayport to HDMI cable or Displayport to DVI cable so you could test all features. You do not need to get a display with a Displayport.

Most new video cards will come with a Displayport so be prepare!
Thanks for the effort though

 

[Onus]

Come on now guys, we can't blame Cleeve for retailers setting prices above MSRP, as they did on the GT240. They're the ones who applied the screws, and if they didn't add to nVidia's hurt, they certainly didn't allow any healing to take place. Let's give retailers a little time to realize they need to lower prices on the HD5670 if they want to sell any number of them.

 

[capt_taco]

Very informative. Seeing its performance side-by-side with the 5750 was a really good comparison -- honestly, at this price, even if I was concerned about power, I'd rather just spend the few extra bucks for the 5750.

The 5670 will probably find a niche somewhere, eventually, as the cheapest and lowest-power DX11 card on the market, but not for a year or so and not until the price comes down. Probably it'll be the same idea for early dual-core systems as the 4650/4670 AGP cards are for aging Pentium 4s.

 

[Lavacon]

[citation][nom]Cleeve[/nom]In any case, that assumption was a mistake, or premature at the very least. I'm not perfect, never claimed to be. But that mistake is not bias. And I'm not willing to make that mistake again regardless of the manufacturer. So I am a bit more cautious about the conclusion this time.[/citation]

That sums it up.

I was comparing this article to the GT 240 article. In no way, shape or form can I get behind this new ATI card at this price point when there are 4850's and 9800 gt's at the same price. If you read these two articles I hope you can see where some of us could think there was some bias there.

If you take that and the ati 4% yield article into consideration, you can see why some may cry foul.

 

[bounty]

I'd like to see this at 90$ at release. That would help address any speed issues vs 9800 GT's etc and would be in a leadership position with it's features and low power. It would give a more solid slower/cheaper/low power vs faster/costlier/power connector kind of choice.

Another good question here is, can this card play eyefinity WOW? It's a mainstream card vs a mainstream game, and something I could see WOW players upgrading for.

 

[cleeve]

[citation][nom]caamsa[/nom]I am surprised that you guys didn't use the 4850 instead of the 4770 which is a pretty rare card. I assume you didn't have one laying around and the 4770 has similar performance to the 4850?[/citation]

The problem was more related to the amount of time I had for testing. I'd have liked to include the 4850, but performance is so similar to the 5750 I thought it might be redundant. The 5750 I thought was very important to include because it represents the next step up in Dx11 performance, and the 4770 was important because I wanted to see if the 5670 could match previous gen performance like the rest of the 5000 series has.

The performance of the 4850 (and the GTS 250 for that matter) will lie between the 4770 and 5750 for the most part - probably closer to the 5750 - and both are so far out of the 5670's league that it's probably not necessary.

But yeah, if I'd have had more time, I'd've added the 4850 and GTS 250 for sure.

 

[cleeve]

[citation][nom]bounty[/nom]Another good question here is, can this card play eyefinity WOW? It's a mainstream card vs a mainstream game, and something I could see WOW players upgrading for.[/citation]

WoW is extremely easy on the videocard, it's probably one of the few games that the 5670 could handle in Eyefinity without a problem.

 

[cleeve]

[citation][nom]Lavacon[/nom]If you read these two articles I hope you can see where some of us could think there was some bias there. [/citation]

Of course. I see where you're coming from, that's why I devoted a few paragraphs to address it.

You can see where my head was in the conclusion of the GT 240 review: "The point is that Nvidia now has a cost-effective part that it can leverage to not only compete with the existing Radeon HD 4670 when paired up to DDR3, but replace the GeForce 9600 GT when it's armed with GDDR5."

The whole review was written with the understanding that the GDDR5 GT 240 would quickly end up replacing the 9600 GSO at the $80 price point and that the DDR3 version would be even cheaper to go up against the 4670. Honestly I never thought in my wildest dreams the GDDR5 version GT 240 would stay over $90. I am completely baffled that the price is still as high as it is, I'm not sure who is buying this card.

 

[Computer_Lots]

Newegg has a couple of 4850s for $99 right now. Why would I buy a slower card for the same price. 4850 is a much better deal.

 

[eyemaster]

At 79$, the card might look too cheap on the shelves and not sell at all. Some people just shop directly in stores not really knowing where a card lives in the price/value department. I'm betting this card will sell well for close to 100$.

 

[Computer_Lots]

Also, Newegg has a GT240 for $65 so the price HAS dropped to a more reasonable level. I guess Nvidia is already reacting to the 5670.

 

[knickle]

Just a note... in the benchmarks you listed the 9800GT, but in the GPU Temp and Power Draw charts you listed the 8800GT.

Whoops?

 

[belial2k]

[citation][nom]eyemaster[/nom]At 79$, the card might look too cheap on the shelves and not sell at all. Some people just shop directly in stores not really knowing where a card lives in the price/value department. I'm betting this card will sell well for close to 100$.[/citation]
ATI taking advantage of consumer ignorance to sell an inferior product at inflated prices? Don't let Jenny (aka ohreally) hear you say that. To her and others who populate this forum, AMD/ATI can do no wrong and are the saviors of the tech world....while Intel/Nvidia are the ONLY ones with dubious business practices.

 

[noob2222]

[citation][nom]Computer_Lots[/nom]Also, Newegg has a GT240 for $65 so the price HAS dropped to a more reasonable level. I guess Nvidia is already reacting to the 5670.[/citation]
Where is this mysterious $65 card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201305520548%20106793264%201067950263&name=GeForce%20GT%20240

 

[Kelavarus]

[citation][nom]noob2222[/nom]Where is this mysterious $65 card?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 20GT%20240[/citation]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127465

Try not to hurt yourself scrolling down. Idiot.

 

[belial2k]

[citation][nom]Kelavarus[/nom]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127465Try not to hurt yourself scrolling down. Idiot.[/citation]
Ummm...as a rule we never count MIR since there is only about a 50/50 chance at best you'll ever get it.

 

[notty22]

[citation][nom]belial2k[/nom]ATI taking advantage of consumer ignorance to sell an inferior product at inflated prices? Don't let Jenny (aka ohreally) hear you say that. To her and others who populate this forum, AMD/ATI can do no wrong and are the saviors of the tech world....while Intel/Nvidia are the ONLY ones with dubious business practices.[/citation]

+1

 

[IzzyCraft]

[citation][nom]stridervm[/nom]I wish there was a Radeon 4850 in the comparison chart for.... Comparison....[/citation]
A 4850 is like a 4770 in performance usually a 4850 preformed a tiny bit better then a 4770, either way for ~100 bucks you can buy better gaming cards then the 5670, but dx 11 hdmi etc crap.

 

[Kelavarus]

[citation][nom]belial2k[/nom]Ummm...as a rule we never count MIR since there is only about a 50/50 chance at best you'll ever get it.[/citation]

I've never seen why people have had so many issues with MIR. Perhaps I'm just extraordinarily lucky, but I've never had a single problem. Granted, I've never bought from Diamond, which is supposed to be notorious with MIRs, but other than that, never an issue.

*shrug*

 

[cleeve]

[citation][nom]knickle[/nom]Just a note... in the benchmarks you listed the 9800GT, but in the GPU Temp and Power Draw charts you listed the 8800GT.Whoops?[/citation]

The 9800 GT *is* the 8800 GT. They are the exact same card, same GPU.

I mention that we use an 8800 GT to represent 9800 GT performance in the benchmark setup charts. But for actual power usage and heat production, we're representing a specific card due to differences in coolers, not general performance, so I mention the specific model.

 

[Schip]

Small typo on the last page: "..., the Radeon HD 4670 does offer the fastest reference card performance you'll find without connecting a dedicated power cable."

That should probably say '5670'.

Coming from one who read the article carefully, I believe the article was well written. Every statement was quite fair, and quite justifiable. A very worthwhile article. Thanks!

 

[victomofreality]

hopefully they'll see the issues with the benchmarks and tweek it a bit before it goes to market.

 

[dirtmountain]

Excellent article with one of the best, most comprehensive and sensible conclusions i've ever read.