AUX temp cause CPU throttle in Dark Souls 3

[PaddyVu]

How can i reduce AUX temp or can ignore AUX temp in BIOS?
When it higher than 70 degree,the game starts throttle like this:
https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/13055098_942433289208293_4253707008158385494_o.jpg
And when it below 70 degree,the game is normal
https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/13055830_942433195874969_4642594085747651954_o.jpg
How can i ignore this AUX temp?

 

[techgeek]

I'm not sure what the AUXTIN is. I'm thinking it might be a bogus reading. Did you see that the maximum was 168C, there would have been smoke.

 

[PaddyVu]

I'm not sure what the AUXTIN is. I'm thinking it might be a bogus reading. Did you see that the maximum was 168C, there would have been smoke.

Max temp is fake! I only trurst from current value and min value,AUX mean = northbridge = VRM mainboard,i want to ignore it or reduce temp

 

[techgeek]

Are you absolutely sure that it's the VRM or Northbridge (it won't be both)? Do you have ASUS software on the system? I wouldn't normally suggest their software, but in this case it should correctly identify the temp and the device for that temp. My guess would be the VRM, but I'm not sure that the old C2D motherboards were that advanced to monitor the VRM temp. That said, it's hard to believe that the Northbridge would get that hot. It's essentially the memory controller.

 

[PaddyVu]

Are you absolutely sure that it's the VRM or Northbridge (it won't be both)? Do you have ASUS software on the system? I wouldn't normally suggest their software, but in this case it should correctly identify the temp and the device for that temp. My guess would be the VRM, but I'm not sure that the old C2D motherboards were that advanced to monitor the VRM temp. That said, it's hard to believe that the Northbridge would get that hot. It's essentially the memory controller.

How can i reduce it or disable that temp ?
Each time it over 70 degree,my game starts throttle and i lost 50+fps ((

 

[techgeek]

Well if it's being monitored by the motherboard and used to throttle your CPU, then there is no way to disable it, it's being done in the firmware. You need to find out what component temperature it corresponds to before you can attempt to reduce the temperature.

You could check the BIOS and see which temperatures are displayed there in the monitoring section. Maybe that will help you determine what AUXTIN is for.

 

[PaddyVu]

Well if it's being monitored by the motherboard and used to throttle your CPU, then there is no way to disable it, it's being done in the firmware. You need to find out what component temperature it corresponds to before you can attempt to reduce the temperature.

You could check the BIOS and see which temperatures are displayed there in the monitoring section. Maybe that will help you determine what AUXTIN is for.

I don't know.Please check this forum: https://forums.aida64.com/topic/3340-whats-wrong-with-the-aux-temp/
I just asking about it again in another forum and they said like that wtf

 

[techgeek]

Well for one thing, I can tell you that AUXTIN isn't your CPU temperature. If this was socket temp, it would be lower than your core temps. The DTS sensors on the Core 2's are more accurate and respond faster to changes in CPU load than the socket temperature. It would also be lower than the core temps as I mentioned.

Really what you need to do is go into your BIOS and look in the monitoring section for anything that is a temperature that looks like it's high (hot). The label for this temp will give us some idea of what component is being monitored. Again I don't think it's likely that your Northbridge is getting that hot.

Looking at you motherboard manual, you need to go into the BIOS (wow that's a blast from the past) and go to Power, then you will see a heading Hardware Monitor, go into this. The first two things in Hardware Monitor is CPU Temp and MB Temp. I'm pretty sure the only thing this might be is MB Temp so check this, though note what it says for CPU Temp as well.

If this shows a reasonable temp for MB Temp, then you may need to place your finger on the Northbridge heatsink (carefully) and Southbridge heatsink. The Northbridge heatsink is the one closest to the CPU socket / DIMM slots. The Southbridge heatsink is the one below the PCI-E slot. Again be careful because if one of these is actually that temperature, it might burn you if you push down on it too quickly / hard.

 

[PaddyVu]

Well for one thing, I can tell you that AUXTIN isn't your CPU temperature. If this was socket temp, it would be lower than your core temps. The DTS sensors on the Core 2's are more accurate and respond faster to changes in CPU load than the socket temperature. It would also be lower than the core temps as I mentioned.

Really what you need to do is go into your BIOS and look in the monitoring section for anything that is a temperature that looks like it's high (hot). The label for this temp will give us some idea of what component is being monitored. Again I don't think it's likely that your Northbridge is getting that hot.

Looking at you motherboard manual, you need to go into the BIOS (wow that's a blast from the past) and go to Power, then you will see a heading Hardware Monitor, go into this. The first two things in Hardware Monitor is CPU Temp and MB Temp. I'm pretty sure the only thing this might be is MB Temp so check this, though note what it says for CPU Temp as well.

If this shows a reasonable temp for MB Temp, then you may need to place your finger on the Northbridge heatsink (carefully) and Southbridge heatsink. The Northbridge heatsink is the one closest to the CPU socket / DIMM slots. The Southbridge heatsink is the one below the PCI-E slot. Again be careful because if one of these is actually that temperature, it might burn you if you push down on it too quickly / hard.

Tks,i go to BIOS and check that my MB temp only at 37 degree,wow and i can't touch because it's hard to remove the fan,i will need help from my parents

 

[techgeek]

Sorry, what fan? On the motherboard? Or in the case?

Either way, whatever the motherboard is monitoring the temperature on for MB temp isn't overheating @ 37C. The most likely point for this measurement is the Northbridge.

In most cases if your CPU were throttling, it would need to be the CPU overheating. I've heard on newer platforms that VRM monitoring can be responsible for throttling if the VRM's get too hot, but not on the platform you have. Its also quite unlikely that your VRM's would get that hot, the Core 2's don't use a lot of power. It's clear that ASUS didn't think VRM heat was a concern since there isn't even a heatsink installed to cool them. I have a P5Q Deluxe in the closet here, and it does have VRM heatsinks, but that board was meant to overclock, so it was necessary for it.

The last thing to consider is that HWMonitor is a third-party utility. It doesn't know exactly what to label that sensor as. So for all we know, it isn't actually a viable sensor and just a channel that the software finds on the IC used for monitoring sensors. So there is that. That is not to say that HWMonitor is a bad program, but it's a generic program (not written exclusively for your hardware) and is making guesses based on the sensor IC it finds. The clue is that it doesn't have a decipherable sensor name (AUXTIN). So we have no clue as to what this actually is.

This is not to say that you don't have a problem, but it may have nothing to do with this AUXTIN and may take some more troubleshooting to nail down.

I just noticed something in your original screenshots that I find interesting. It's most likely nothing, but I noticed that the +12V is reading like 8.3V. Now I'm sure this is bogus and goes to show that that sensor may need calibrated in the software, because if your 12V were actually that low, I don't think your system would even POST. Just to check though, you could go back into the BIOS where you were looking at the MB Temp and look at what the 12V is showing there.

 

[PaddyVu]

Sorry, what fan? On the motherboard? Or in the case?

Either way, whatever the motherboard is monitoring the temperature on for MB temp isn't overheating @ 37C. The most likely point for this measurement is the Northbridge.

In most cases if your CPU were throttling, it would need to be the CPU overheating. I've heard on newer platforms that VRM monitoring can be responsible for throttling if the VRM's get too hot, but not on the platform you have. Its also quite unlikely that your VRM's would get that hot, the Core 2's don't use a lot of power. It's clear that ASUS didn't think VRM heat was a concern since there isn't even a heatsink installed to cool them. I have a P5Q Deluxe in the closet here, and it does have VRM heatsinks, but that board was meant to overclock, so it was necessary for it.

The last thing to consider is that HWMonitor is a third-party utility. It doesn't know exactly what to label that sensor as. So for all we know, it isn't actually a viable sensor and just a channel that the software finds on the IC used for monitoring sensors. So there is that. That is not to say that HWMonitor is a bad program, but it's a generic program (not written exclusively for your hardware) and is making guesses based on the sensor IC it finds. The clue is that it doesn't have a decipherable sensor name (AUXTIN). So we have no clue as to what this actually is.

This is not to say that you don't have a problem, but it may have nothing to do with this AUXTIN and may take some more troubleshooting to nail down.

I just noticed something in your original screenshots that I find interesting. It's most likely nothing, but I noticed that the +12V is reading like 8.3V. Now I'm sure this is bogus and goes to show that that sensor may need calibrated in the software, because if your 12V were actually that low, I don't think your system would even POST. Just to check though, you could go back into the BIOS where you were looking at the MB Temp and look at what the 12V is showing there.

Fan on MB,actually fan for the CPU,i bought zalman cnps 10x optima 2 days ago and CPU at full load show from 85 degree reduce to 60-65 degree max.
I will check BIOS

 

[techgeek]

So you put a new CPU cooler on. This isn't what I wanted you to touch. The two things I wanted you to touch were on the motherboard. The two gold heatsinks shown in the photo below:

The one closest to the CPU is the Northbridge, the one down below the PCI-E slot is the Southbridge. If you touch these, make sure you keep your other hand on the case of the computer so your body is at the same voltage as your PC so you don't release a static charge into the motherboard.

 

[PaddyVu]

I can totally sure about AUX temp throttle my CPU, i have so many tests about it,each time it goes over 70C,my CPU starts throttle,from 3,9ghz reduce to 2,6ghz,from 85% cpu usage reduce to 5%
Btw my CPU is overclock
Even when i reduce it to under default (2,5ghz),CPU still throttle because of AUX temp T_T

 

[PaddyVu]

So you put a new CPU cooler on. This isn't what I wanted you to touch. The two things I wanted you to touch were on the motherboard. The two gold heatsinks shown in the photo below:

The one closest to the CPU is the Northbridge, the one down below the PCI-E slot is the Southbridge. If you touch these, make sure you keep your other hand on the case of the computer so your body is at the same voltage as your PC so you don't release a static charge into the motherboard.

i don't want to kill myself,i'm afraid,is there any other situation? @@!

 

[techgeek]

Well overclocked which I just realised looking at your screenshots would certainly explain the throttling. What CPU do you have?

As for killing yourself, there is nothing in there that can hurt you. Maybe you might get burned if there was something really hot, but you should be able to lightly touch it to test it before pressing down. The reason I told you to touch your case when you touch the heatsink is so that you don't damage your computer with static. The voltages on the motherboard are all very low, 12V and lower.

It's not necessary that you touch anything here, I thought it would be a good test to see if you could find anything that was really warm.

Here is another question, do you have any idea how hot your GPU is getting while gaming? It really seems unlikely that your CPU is throttling due to that AUXTIN and we aren't even sure what AUXTIN is or if it's a valid sensor.

Just found this link:

AUXTIN is Meaningless

As I said it looks like it's an unused temperature input. So you can totally disregard this as the reason for your issue.

 

[PaddyVu]

Well overclocked which I just realised looking at your screenshots would certainly explain the throttling. What CPU do you have?

As for killing yourself, there is nothing in there that can hurt you. Maybe you might get burned if there was something really hot, but you should be able to lightly touch it to test it before pressing down. The reason I told you to touch your case when you touch the heatsink is so that you don't damage your computer with static. The voltages on the motherboard are all very low, 12V and lower.

It's not necessary that you touch anything here, I thought it would be a good test to see if you could find anything that was really warm.

Here is another question, do you have any idea how hot your GPU is getting while gaming? It really seems unlikely that your CPU is throttling due to that AUXTIN and we aren't even sure what AUXTIN is or if it's a valid sensor.

Just found this link:

AUXTIN is Meaningless

As I said it looks like it's an unused temperature input. So you can totally disregard this as the reason for your issue.

My GPU only at 40C when full load,my GPU is Asus 7750 edition
AUX temp is meaningless,BUT each time it goes over 70 degree,the CPU starts throttle,pls wait,i should make a video about this while i playing !

 

[techgeek]

It's an uncalibrated unused input. That is why you have a completely bogus maximum value. The input has just been left to drift. Did you click the link? That is from ASUS VIP Support.

 

[PaddyVu]

It's an uncalibrated unused input. That is why you have a completely bogus maximum value. The input has just been left to drift. Did you click the link? That is from ASUS VIP Support.

Yeah i already see,they said "Hi G...

That reading is meaningless.... The only readings that have been calibrated are the ones litsed in your BIOS.... processor DTS and 'motherboard' sensor."
Btw do you know any program that record the hole screen,i use frap and it only show from the game,not the hole desktop

 

[techgeek]

You could try Plays.TV. I don't know what the system requirement are offhand. I don't know if you have a nVidia graphics card or not, but I think your system is below the requirement for Shadowplay.

You might have an issue recording with only a dual core CPU.

 

[PaddyVu]

You could try Plays.TV. I don't know what the system requirement are offhand. I don't know if you have a nVidia graphics card or not, but I think your system is below the requirement for Shadowplay.

You might have an issue recording with only a dual core CPU.

I just use Camstudio,and look like AUX temp never goes up to 70 degree,and the game has no throttle WTF If i only play dark souls 3 without record,AUX temp will goes up to 80 degree and CPU will throttle

 

[techgeek]

When you were recording, were you fullscreen? Or windowed?

 

[PaddyVu]

When you were recording, were you fullscreen? Or windowed?

Windowed,fullscreen is so lag

 

[techgeek]

When you were recording, were you fullscreen? Or windowed?

Windowed,fullscreen is so lag

Is that the way you normally play?

 

[PaddyVu]

When you were recording, were you fullscreen? Or windowed?

When you were recording, were you fullscreen? Or windowed?

Windowed,fullscreen is so lag

Is that the way you normally play?

I don't know what are you talking about.
Normally,i play Dark Souls 3 at fullscreen,but some time i see the game freeze,then i play at windowed to check my temp.
And about record,how can i record my temp if i play at full screen? ,yeah i have video that i play at full screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDbbWdArWE
,but you will never know my temp.So i play dark souls 3 at windowed to check temp,and this video is for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXiDIblR1M
It's really hard to see,but hole record AUX temp won't go up to 80 degree,so you only see at about 75-79

 

[PaddyVu]

Btw,you should first see from % CPU usage,then you can check from AUX temp later,don't worry about when it's 100% usage,just because my CPU is weak (just a drop fps),not like throttle (the game will freeze with 0 fps)