[SOLVED] B450 Tomahawk Max With DDR4-3600

[Vanilla_Delight]

I am building a new machine with the B450 Tomahawk Max MB, Ryzen 7 2700x and I went with 16gb of DDR4-3600 ram. However Ive been reading that this ram speed isnt supported by the board and when I go into the MSI bios it says the ram is 2133. Should I go back and get a slower speed ram (3200 or 3400)? Or is there a way to get the most out of the 3600 ram that I already bought?

 

[Lutfij]

You can:
a| make sure you're on the latest BIOS update for the motherboard

b| Run the rams at the maximum that the baord and processor will allow you to go, which should be DDR4-3200MHz with a Ryzen 2700x

c| spend some time and overclock the rams to get to higher frequency than 3200MHz but that will take trial and errors.

d| instead of going for a higher frequency, tighten the timings of the rams while you're at DDR4-3200MHz.

 

[Vanilla_Delight]

Would you suggest messing with the 3600 ram or down stepping to 3000 or 3200 speed ram?

You can:
a| make sure you're on the latest BIOS update for the motherboard

b| Run the rams at the maximum that the baord and processor will allow you to go, which should be DDR4-3200MHz with a Ryzen 2700x

c| spend some time and overclock the rams to get to higher frequency than 3200MHz but that will take trial and errors.

d| instead of going for a higher frequency, tighten the timings of the rams while you're at DDR4-3200MHz.

 

[damric]

You can certainly go faster, but you will have to manually tune the timings and voltages yourself, as 2933 is highest speed within your processor's specification. But for example I'm running 1st gen Ryzen on x370 with RAM at 3466MT/s CL14.

 

[sizzling]

I have a B450 Tomahawk Max running a 3700X. I have 2x16GB 3200mhz CL16 that I have overclocked to 3600mhz CL16 with no problem, just needed a little extra voltage. I can say for certain this board runs 3600mhz but I dont know about a 2700X.

 

[sizzling]

Also

"Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 4133(OC) MHz "

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX

 

[damric]

Also

"Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 4133(OC) MHz "

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX

Absolutely possible. Of course MSI will not guarantee that, hence the * symbol so they don't get sued by all these people that think all they have to do is put it in the slots and turn it on and yay overclocked RAM.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

I bought some G.skill trident z royal gold 2x8 cl16 with timings of 16 16 16 16 36
1.35v Samsung b-dies which is on my qvl for 3000 cpu's.
I knew i was going to be upgrading the cpu and bought the ram first.
Out of curiosity I was able to get it to run on my Asus rog strix x470 f gaming with a 2600x.
It took 1.45v Docp 3600.
Dram frequency 3600
Timings 16 16 16 16 36
All others on auto

Proc @ 60
Rtt_nom disabled
Rtt_wr dynamic off
Rtt_park auto

https://imgur.com/a/fJuuL5H

View: https://m.imgur.com/a/fJuuL5H


Hope this helps.
Good Luck
Have A Great Weekend Guys!!!!!!!!

 

[damric]

Yeah the nice thing about the Samsung B dies is that they have very predictable timing, frequency, and voltage scaling which makes them easy for beginner overclockers. They also have a short stable refresh charge so that helps a lot getting the latency down. Personally I stick with the Hynix C/D stuff since it has much better cost/performance ratio and I don't mind putting in the additional work tuning.

 

[Zizo007]

I bought some G.skill trident z royal gold 2x8 cl16 with timings of 16 16 16 16 36
1.35v Samsung b-dies which is on my qvl for 3000 cpu's.
I knew i was going to be upgrading the cpu and bought the ram first.
Out of curiosity I was able to get it to run on my Asus rog strix x470 f gaming with a 2600x.
It took 1.45v Docp 3600.
Dram frequency 3600
Timings 16 16 16 16 36
All others on auto

Proc @ 60
Rtt_nom disabled
Rtt_wr dynamic off
Rtt_park auto

https://imgur.com/a/fJuuL5H

View: https://m.imgur.com/a/fJuuL5H


Hope this helps.
Good Luck
Have A Great Weekend Guys!!!!!!!!

Is it memtest86+ 4 passes error free?
I have the same b-die with 1800X but errors with anything above 3200 so I just tighten timings 14-14-14-14-28-42.
I know my CPU is the limit as its 1st gen with weak memory controller. Already tried upping SoC voltage.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

Yes it was 3 to 4x of the free version
Also passed p95 , aida64 and realbench stresstest 8gb test of the 16gb.

 

[Zizo007]

Yes it was 3 to 4x of the free version
Also passed p95 , aida64 and realbench stresstest 8gb test of the 16gb.

Yea its because my CPU is 1st gen, 2nd gen support faster RAM but still 3600 2nd gen is amazing.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

That ram is still in use on my asus rog strix x470 f gaming but with a 3600x oc'd to 4.325mhz , 1.30v with the ram running @ 3733
Timings of 15 15 15 15 30 45 1t @ 1.37v
So really depends alot on the ramkit and just how much you play with it.

If the Op can't get it to run at 3600 wth the higher voltage and proc / rtt's i used, then it may be best to do as the others have suggested to lower it down and tighten the timings.

 

[Zizo007]

Would you suggest messing with the 3600 ram or down stepping to 3000 or 3200 speed ram?

If your RAM is not in the memory compatibility list of your motherboard I would return the RAM as its not guaranteed to run at XMP speeds:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#support-mem-14