Question Bad RAM seat?

[beauknowsdiddly]

Hello,
I just got this piece of crap B50M-HDV R4.0 replaced because the display wouldn't boot up. I'm using the CPU graphics Ryzen 5 3400G. I thought it was the HDMI port on the board. They replaced it and when i put the new one together. I'm getting a similar if not the same issue. I pulled the RAM (Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory) and put one 8 GB stick in the first slot and voila it booted right up. Then I put both sticks back in and no joy. It will not boot. I even tried both sticks in that slot with the first slot empty. If that second slot has RAM in it the board will not boot up. The CPU fan turns on, but it doesn't display. But when I clear that second spot it boots right up beautifully. Could it be something other than a bad seat? Something in the BIOS maybe? I'm not too up on that stuff.

Thank you!

 

[Lutfij]

B50M-HDV R4.0
Do yo mean this board;
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp
? If so, what BIOS version are you working with on the motherboard?

Then I put both sticks back in and no joy. It will not boot. I even tried both sticks in that slot with the first slot empty. If that second slot has RAM in it the board will not boot up. The CPU fan turns on, but it doesn't display. But when I clear that second spot it boots right up beautifully.
It's probable that the integrated memory controller(IMC) might be faulty/failing. You can try and drop the APU onto another motherboard with the right BIOS version and see if a dual channel ram kit produces the same issue. If so, then you can narrow down the APU's IMC being the root of the issue. If the issue doesn't crop up, then the ram slot on your B450 chipset motherboard is the issue.

 

[beyondlogic]

Hello,
I just got this piece of crap B50M-HDV R4.0 replaced because the display wouldn't boot up. I'm using the CPU graphics Ryzen 5 3400G. I thought it was the HDMI port on the board. They replaced it and when i put the new one together. I'm getting a similar if not the same issue. I pulled the RAM (Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory) and put one 8 GB stick in the first slot and voila it booted right up. Then I put both sticks back in and no joy. It will not boot. I even tried both sticks in that slot with the first slot empty. If that second slot has RAM in it the board will not boot up. The CPU fan turns on, but it doesn't display. But when I clear that second spot it boots right up beautifully. Could it be something other than a bad seat? Something in the BIOS maybe? I'm not too up on that stuff.

Thank you!

1. remove the battery on the motherboard the coin battery this resets the bios just incase xmp is on.

the max memory speed for cpu is 2933mhz

also check what bios it is running. since you said its using 1 stick you could get it running.

if your unsure enter bios and take a picture and upload it here threw imgur.

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

B50M-HDV R4.0
Do yo mean this board;
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp
? If so, what BIOS version are you working with on the motherboard?

Then I put both sticks back in and no joy. It will not boot. I even tried both sticks in that slot with the first slot empty. If that second slot has RAM in it the board will not boot up. The CPU fan turns on, but it doesn't display. But when I clear that second spot it boots right up beautifully.
It's probable that the integrated memory controller(IMC) might be faulty/failing. You can try and drop the APU onto another motherboard with the right BIOS version and see if a dual channel ram kit produces the same issue. If so, then you can narrow down the APU's IMC being the root of the issue. If the issue doesn't crop up, then the ram slot on your B450 chipset motherboard is the issue.

Hey Lutfij,
Yes same board BIOS Version/Date America Megatrends Inc. P10.31 8/21/24

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

Thank you Beyond,
I reset the battery, same issue. Here's a couple snapshots of the BIOS
I also change the RAM Frequency to 3200. Still the same. This time it rebooted by itself 3 times before it stayed running but still no post.

https://imgur.com/a/OoJC3NL

View: https://imgur.com/a/OoJC3NL

Thanks again!

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

It's probable that the integrated memory controller(IMC) might be faulty/failing. You can try and drop the APU onto another motherboard with the right BIOS version and see if a dual channel ram kit produces the same issue. If so, then you can narrow down the APU's IMC being the root of the issue. If the issue doesn't crop up, then the ram slot on your B450 chipset motherboard is the issue.

Unfortunately I don't have another board to try this on. I just had the board AND the APU replaced, they are both suppose to be brand new. This is crazy.

Update: I just purchased another board on Amazon to try that on. I'll have it tomorrow. I'll let you know!!

 

[Misgar]

I also change the RAM Frequency to 3200.

As @beyondlogic said, the Ryzen 3400G is only specified up to DDR4-2933, so why are you trying an XMP overclock of 3200MT/s?
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 3400G.html

I have a Ryzen 2600X with the same DDR4-2933 spec and it won't even POST at 3000MT/s without loosening the CAS/CL settings manually.

Switch off XMP and see if the system will boot at the RAM's JEDEC setting, probably 2133 or 2400MT/s. Then you can switch XMP back on and slowly increase the speed (try 2600, 2800, 2933, 3000 before 3200MT/s).

Failure to boot with two DIMMs could indicate a faulty IMC (integrated Memory Controller) channel in the CPU or bent contacts in the CPU socket.

Test all DIMMs individually with MemTest86. One of your DIMMs might be bad.
https://www.memtest86.com/

 

[beyondlogic]

As @beyondlogic said, the Ryzen 3400G is only specified up to DDR4-2933, so why are you trying an XMP overclock of 3200MT/s?
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 3400G.html

I have a Ryzen 2600X with the same DDR4-2933 spec and it won't even POST at 3000MT/s without loosening the CAS/CL settings manually.

Switch off XMP and see if the system will boot at the RAM's JEDEC setting, probably 2133 or 2400MT/s. Then you can switch XMP back on and slowly increase the speed (try 2600, 2800, 2933, 3000 before 3200MT/s).

Failure to boot with two DIMMs could indicate a faulty IMC (integrated Memory Controller) channel in the CPU or bent contacts in the CPU socket.

Test all DIMMs individually with MemTest86. One of your DIMMs might be bad.
https://www.memtest86.com/

On the Ryzen 2600x it's possible to go to 3600 depends on your board and ram if ram is cl18 it's possible.

I know apus freak out over ram more though

 

[beyondlogic]

Thank you Beyond,
I reset the battery, same issue. Here's a couple snapshots of the BIOS
I also change the RAM Frequency to 3200. Still the same. This time it rebooted by itself 3 times before it stayed running but still no post.

https://imgur.com/a/OoJC3NL

View: https://imgur.com/a/OoJC3NL

Thanks again!

As I said max is 2993 you won't get it to 3200.

Enable xmp but turn down the speed to 2993 or 2900

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

As @beyondlogic said, the Ryzen 3400G is only specified up to DDR4-2933, so why are you trying an XMP overclock of 3200MT/s?

I dunno, I thought since the RAM says it's 3200 maybe that had something to do with it. I was just trying different stuff. It booted up just fine with the one stick when I changed that. Still no post with both plugged in. I reset it back to 2933.

 

[beauknowsdiddly]

I got the new board today. Exact same board. Never again though. I'm kickin' myself for getting this piece of crap in the first place. But I dropped the APU onto the new board. plugged in both RAM Sticks and it booted up beautifully. Although the Bios on this new board is P10.10 while the other one is P10.31. I wonder if that's the reason?

 

[beyondlogic]

I got the new board today. Exact same board. Never again though. I'm kickin' myself for getting this piece of crap in the first place. But I dropped the APU onto the new board. plugged in both RAM Sticks and it booted up beautifully. Although the Bios on this new board is P10.10 while the other one is P10.31. I wonder if that's the reason?

It's possible I know that the bios chips on these boards is small 16mb for context this was later on newer models to 32mb this was due to not having enough space for supporting 4000 and 5000 series chips if the bios is 2 new it may have caused it.