Ballmer: China Business Piracy A 'Real Problem'

[JAYDEEJOHN]

This is why Taipei should start selling all things Chinese, but pirated? Or anyone else for that matter? To help their own people? This makes no sense
Who cares if China or its businesses suffer?
OK....

 

[randomizer]

Bottom line, the chinese help their own people instead of Microsoft and US.

That's how it should be. Forever bowing to greedy US corporations isn't going to do the country any good. Piracy is only a "real problem" in countries where it is illegal. If it is not illegal in China then the "real problem" is at Redmond.

 

[eddieroolz]

Well, it is China. What do you expect? Most wealthy people in China got there not by actual hard work, but embezzling money, doing backroom deals and bribing. Corruption is more rampant in China than anywhere else in the world.

Coupled with the fact that Chinese citizens in PRC generally have low ethical and moral standards, it soon becomes obvious why they'd rather pirate than pay, even if a genuine product is only $5.

By the way, people: Yen is Japanese currency; Yuan is Chinese. Also, Taipei is the capital of Taiwan, not the PRC. There are tacit differences.

 

[Guest]

Blaa blaa blaa..
The Reality == a typical MS CEO crying about not getting his bonus.
The China GOVt can and will run there own country.
Sniveling USA Half-wits will only get told to piss-off and
never bother coming to China .. unless they want to end up in jail with no key.

 

[K2N hater]

Microsoft is not a cause worth fighting for. Would Windows cost $10 there would be no piracy.

 

[randomizer]

Microsoft is not a cause worth fighting for. Would Windows cost $10 there would be no piracy.

There would be in China.

 

[reprotected]

[citation][nom]K2N hater[/nom]Microsoft is not a cause worth fighting for. Would Windows cost $10 there would be no piracy.[/citation]
10 dollars is too much.

 

[kartu]

[citation][nom]lljones[/nom]"...met with U.S. lawmakers and top officials in Obama's administration in hopes to persuade them into putting pressure on Chinese officials."1. Obama's administration has far bigger worries right now, something about November not looking like a very good month.2. I'm having a hard time remembering who we borrowed hundreds of billions of dollars from, but I am fairly certain that we won't be putting any "pressure" on them. 3. I find it very hard to listen to companies like M$ and others that practice unfair and downright illegal methods of business whine about lost sales.4.Typed with extreme sarcasm. Why don't they simply find 8 people who have downloaded pirated versions of songs/software and fine them a billion each. It would even give them a net profit and you know that they wouldn't complain about that.[/citation]

Well said. What a shame your comment were modded down and followed with nonsense comments like that of Mr nottheking.

 

[nottheking]

[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]Well said. What a shame your comment were modded down and followed with nonsense comments like that of Mr nottheking.[/citation]
"Nonesense?" I can only be correct to interpret that term to mean you don't like hearing the truth, and would rather hear the blabber of idiots who know not a thing about political economics? Perhaps you ought to bother to read up and learn something before opening your mouth and looking foolish, rather than just listening to whatever talking head you see/hear on the news.

As it happens, you can regularly get figures on the US government debt, right from the government: http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

I might be over-estimated on the trend, but last time the US Treasury released a statement on "who owns US government debt," in July China's amount of US debt was $846.7US billion, down $93.2US billion (10%) from a year before. In the same period, Japan's quantity has gone UP by $100.1US billion, an increase of about 14%. Though there's some fluctuations, that means China's dropping an average of $7.7 billion a month, while Japan's buying another $8.3 billion; a gap closure of >$16US billion a month. So in the two months since that last update, Japan should've more than closed the $25.7US billion gap behind china, to now own more government debt.

And as I said, at no point did China hold a whole trillion dollars of debt, nor did they hold a majority of the foreign debt. (which, by the way, only recently passed four trillion; the rest is owed to the government itself as well as US citizens) At their peak last year, it was still only 26.8% of the total foreign-held debt; a measly 6.4% once you figure in all parts of the >$13US trillion debt.

As I said, hardly ownership. So next time, please become educated before you make such alarmist statements.

 

[ceteras]

There is an old initiative backed by companies from South Korea, Japan, China, Vietnam and Thailand to create an Asian Linux distro, called Asianux.
If I remember correctly, this was started to have a backup solution, and avoid depending on US technology. Sort of.

I don't expect the Chinese to start couching up money to Microsoft soon, they'd rather go Linux if they had to give up pirating.

Plus, we shouldn't forget about this old story from 2007:

Jeff Raikes, a Microsoft executive, stated that "If they're going to pirate somebody, we want it to be us rather than somebody else." He also added [1] that "We understand that in the long run the fundamental asset is the installed base of people who are using our products. What you hope to do over time is convert them to licensing the software."(wiki)

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]K2N hater[/nom]Microsoft is not a cause worth fighting for. Would Windows cost $10 there would be no piracy.[/citation]
[citation][nom]randomizer[/nom]There would be in China.[/citation]

I would still use a pirate copy, just to get Ultimate x64.

 

[wric01]

Learn from apple, pay the right official to make things happen. Bribe and under the table is how business is conducted here in china. Your so call laws and patents only exist in the USA.

 

[shoshu]

hey

 

[shoshu]

however Microsoft claims that it makes less revenue in China than it does in the other two countries
==>and i claim that software is OVERPRICED, so what about it ?
You should diversificate, not all people and companies have the earnings & profits that US citizen & companies have and so the price should be adequately structured!

intellectual property is the major blame for lost software revenue
==>yea, right! thats why Microsoft is one of the RICHEST SOFT companies in the US !!
also prevent piracy by better protecting your code, and STOP sending out stupid reports of multimilion losses - that is IF those companies & people would EVER consider of paying for what they use - and i can tell you they will NOT if they had to! there are many different opensource & free software solutions and you can bet your revenue wont be 100% of what you think it be, max it will be 5-10% !