Beamforming: The Best WiFi You’ve Never Seen

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sorry crappy englis ....
i whas looking in this article if i can set-up a single AP without the expensive controller.. but not found it.
so i whent to there site where there is a nice chat function.
thy give my a straight answer.
Yes you can set it up as a single AP, no need for the controller at home.
Maybe some one whas looking for the same answer.
 
Stupid Q?
Location 5
The normal way users place wifi router is horizontal = bad, as signal is like the upper part of a egg horizontal and above ground and this has more problems traveling thru walls / lower = more obstacles to get thru to get to receiver from 3 feet high router to less than 3 feet high laptop.

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I presume with the ceiling mounted / upside down broadcasting from top floor to lower floors / "bottom half of egg dome shape signal" would produce better results for location 5 ?

Great performance either way.

Dew to a lack of space I always put a screw in the wall and let the router stay in a vertical position or upside down ceiling mounted and have found better performance for both horizontal signal to laptop as well as 6th floor to pool reception as alternative to horizontal placement for both holiday apartment 6th floor and house ground floor installs.

I presume it is dew to less obstacles to pass thru at lower levels in the house / more rubbish at 3or 4 feet height level and only walls / min. at 5 to 8+ feet height = beam over obstacles from ceiling mounted = more efficient.

Is there links / names of software that can make use of the 2 antenna Dell laptop config for signal / direction strength testing with a Falstad’s Antenna Applet appearance / graphical layout ?

"Metageek insider" has signal strength and fancy expensive usb + software interference tester but not for avg. user with Dell laptop.

PS> I found that having b/g/n on in linksys router instead of only g results in some extra functions active that can not be configured but uses the beam forming type to help reduce lag and errors for normal internet / lan usage.

Next Ruckus should have a ball design and hang from a string from ceiling or eqvl. or pole mounted tennis ball on antenna of a old car type appearance for full x y z transmissions especially for high rise office and or hotel usage from roof top , middle of building to ground and ceiling mounted for lobby for property transmissions ?

This could replace the upto 30+ wifi routers per 10 floor 20/40 rooms per floor hotel with 4 Ruckus units.

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Using a cantenna design for directional signals to receiver idea is it worth doing the same with a wifi router or at least provide some directional signal blocking behind router on opposite side to receiver direction to help block and boost signal to receiver ?

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Also reducing signal strength to reduce noise amplification is this worth it if available in wifi router. Both gets amplified where with lower signal receiver can hone in on signal better = less noise ?
 
[citation][nom]johmm[/nom]sorry crappy englis .... i whas looking in this article if i can set-up a single AP without the expensive controller.. but not found it.so i whent to there site where there is a nice chat function.thy give my a straight answer.Yes you can set it up as a single AP, no need for the controller at home.Maybe some one whas looking for the same answer.[/citation]
Very true, and we should have made that clearer. The controller is for enterprise gear. The home/consumer access point just plugs straight into your switch or router -- no additional hardware necessary.
 
Ruckus has been using this Tech for about three years now in their 2942 G series gear! I have been installing this stuff for schools where you have a high concentration of clients in the same area. I love selling it! Increadibly easy to setup and have never had a failure or issue, except from Lightning, and a vastly superior product.

I am yet to find a better solution.

Would be interested in seeing it compared to some of the Hipath Wireless gear from Enterasys.
 
@warawara

Because of the way the beam forming works with the 6000+ antenna combinations the orentation of the access point doesn't have a great effect.

They also have outdoor units that. Can' remember their product numbers off the top of my head. I know of several larg hotel installs using Ruckus gear already.

@Johnmm. The 7962 access point is a stand alone device and does not need the controler at all. None of the Ruckus gear is a "thin client" everything can be stand alone and is very easy to configure. They are NOT routers however.
 
Alot of unknowns in this test, like was any radio management used on any of the systems (ala what was the channel/power output of each), were ALL the systems on during the tests or were all the devices shut off except those being tested, why focus on a vendor's closed/proprietary testing software suite first instead of a more vendor-neutral IxChariot, etc. Not bashing beam forming, but some of the results don't make any sense, and then to leave out the testing and operational parameters (how was the Aruba configured, the Cisco configured, etc) makes it hard to accept any of the performance metric except those within the product.
 
Great article. My university just recently upgraded their entire campus wireless equipment and they got all Aruba equipment. And it's pretty terrible for the most part. The AP's seem to get easily overloaded if more than 15 people connect to one at a time. And there are a bunch of spots where you can't grab a connection. I might forward this article to the IT department...
 
I was going to drop $200 and wire up the whole house with cat6, but if i can find one of these consumer AP's then that might be in the same cost ball park while removing all cable fishing work. Thanks!
 
[citation][nom]williamvw[/nom]Very true, and we should have made that clearer. The controller is for enterprise gear. The home/consumer access point just plugs straight into your switch or router -- no additional hardware necessary.[/citation]

I find this point to be great. I'm one of those that like to use dd-wrt in my home router. This would allow me to use a router that supports dd-wrt/openwrt and attach it to this excellent tech. If I cant put the new AP far away enough from the router then I can simply disable the wireless/AP ability of the router.
 
I've installed a bunch of these devices, most recently in a warehouse environment. I was able to get better coverage with 50% less AP's than with a Cisco solution using omni and directional antenna combinations. The AP's work great as a stand-alone solution but in a multiple AP environment, the ZoneDirector (controller) acts as the traffic cop. The customer is extremely pleased with this solution and so are we.
 
What happened to the post about two other vendors that carry AP's using similar technology? Quad.... something and another one? Why remove that post?
 
Call me a cynic but I would like to see the same tests running over all the APs without a specific vendors tool (which tested best) being used. Where are the iperf results?
 
Testing like this is fine for AP performance. But many users and high density might give a different picture .....
 
Isn't this technology called phased antenna array?
The same principle, used in the radar tech.
But to get precise results you need like tens, or even hundreds antennas.
 
I'm surprised that aruba didn't do well in this test. I've used both and found the aruba often out performed the ciscos (same models as in the test). Aruba might have had bandwidth contracts enabled or were not otherwise configured properly. I've gotten 110 mbps sustained throughput using them. Their 5.0.x OS might also help (3.x was used in the test).

Also in response to the guy talking about "poor joe that sits in the beam path all day" this is non-ionizing radiation, shouldn't affect him or anything living.
 
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