Beginer wc loop for my cpu

[Motopsychojdn]

No problem
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

like thes http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_91_220_224&products_id=3123 fittings

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Yup, they are perfect, I didn't see those or I'd have linked them as the compression choice ,
That will go perfectly with the http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_3_263&products_id=2015
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

ok heres my new list of parts cpu block http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3200

rad http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=609618&CategoryID=684

res http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_120&products_id=2546

tubing http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_853&products_id=22149
fittings http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=609532&CategoryID=740

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I'd keep the original copper block, EK's nickel is renowned for corroding
and I'd stress the 750L pump/res over the 450 but its still acceptable
Tubing and fittings are fine, click to buy whenever you are ready mate
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

hey will i see better performce with a custom water loop than my h60

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Despite that rad being a single 120, its still a thicker rad than the H60's so thats better, and you will be using distilled water which is better for transferring heat than the premix junk in the H60, again, good,
you will see much better performance with a larger rad but as mentioned, even a thicker 120 is fine, just have pushpull fans on it for maximum capabilities
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

well some other person said this 120mm rad like that will probably perform worse then some AiO kits. If that is all you can fit in your case, I would just recommend something like a H80i. If you have the room, get a lot larger rad, like 360mm, otherwise you will be spending quite a bit of cash and probably see no better performance then a air cooler. is that true

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I disagree with whomever they are on the first point,
its a thicker rad, which means more surface area to allow dissipation of heat through fins, physics makes it a better cooling medium, there is no argument to bring
and I did try several times to persuade you to go for a 240 rad but as you seem less than keen to modify to accomodate a larger rad then a thicker 120 is a comparable substitute, and I am certain you will see at least 3-5'C drop on your temps compared to the H60, possibly more with good fans in pushpull on it
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

hey may i ask hows this setup http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_45&products_id=21055

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Its spot on and what I would have recommended had you initially been open to a 240 rad,
I started my own loop with an RX240 kit which is a thicker rad but they don't seem to do those anymore,
but the Rs240 kit is way better than the H60 especially once you get four fans on it
Moto

 

[mopman411]

hey may i ask hows this setup http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_45&products_id=21055

I very recently moved from the H60 to the XSPC Raystorm 750 RS240. Comes with everything you'll need. When it comes to performance I haven't seen a big change, mostly the difference is more stable temp wise and the option to add additional devices.

If you have hard bends get 90 degree barbs, they're cheap. The other alternative is to dip the tube in hot water for a minute then bend and hold till it hardens again. Dipping in hot water helps when putting the tube on the barbs as well.

 

[skitz9417]

actually i just measure the rad i linked and it wont fit in my case because it going to hit my motherboard

 

[skitz9417]

hey is this a good cpu block http://www.iibuy.com.au/zalman-zmwb5plus-cpu-water-block-anodized-copper-base-aluminium-cover-supports-intel-1366775-and-amd-am2-754-939-940_p28075.html

 

[Motopsychojdn]

It has aluminium in it so no, google galvanic corrosion for an explanation on that
and you could mount the rad on top of your case as mentioned before, the xspc kit comes with some brackets that work really well as radiator mounts, I used them for just that function myself

Mod on man, its half of the W/c game
**Edit, ignore the two reservoirs in front of the rad, they're just my touch of class
Moto

 

[mopman411]

Agreed. Looking at the case that you have posted it has the pass-thru for tube. Go with a 240 external rad

EDIT: I don't have any close up of the rad but it uses the same brackets that you can see in Motopsychojdn's post. What you see in my picture is exactly what comes with the XSPC 750 RS240 kit.

Motopsychojdn, love that radiator.

 

[skitz9417]

this is my case where do u think i should put it http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/cam00011c.jpg/

 

[Motopsychojdn]

To avoid any serious modding I would mount it as Mop has, hanging off the rear with the tubing fed through the grommets provided
Noto

 

[mopman411]

The included hardware with the kit is a pain when it comes to connecting to the radiator. Get some 90 degree barbs to make the connection easier. You won't have to bend the tube very much.

Something like this:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11097/ex-tub-693/Bitspower_G_14_Matte_Black_Rotary_90_Angle_12_Stubby_Fitting_BP-MBLRIM.html?tl=g30c407s1577

 

[Motopsychojdn]

**The included hardware with the kit is a pain when it comes to connecting to the radiator**
That would depend very much on how you wanted to mount it,
I had no issues with the included fittings but if tight bends were needed then angled fittings would be well advised
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

hey where can i get sum cheap red coolant from

 

[Motopsychojdn]

You don't, you buy red tubing instead and that won't gunk up your blocks
I know the Xspc kit includes clear tubing, but dyes are rarely recommended in W/c circles due to them breaking down eventually so its red tubing or clear, but no dyes if you wish to avoid problems
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

a another person said this Also, a water loop like that is BRUTAL overkill for an AM3 cpu, even a hexa core.
I'd reccomend to get a big air cooler like the NZXT Havik 140, Thermalright Silver Arrow, Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright True Spirit 140 or Thermalright HR-02 Macho instead and spend the extra money on a better cpu and motherboard later on. Something like an I5 3570k and an Asrock Z77 Extreme 6, or a Gigabyte z77x-ud3h.
Either that or an FX-6300 and a Gigabyte 990fxa-ud3. what do u think

 

[Motopsychojdn]

With Watercooling there is no such thing as overkill, just a quieter cooler system

plus once you get bitten by the bug you can look at adding a tec plate into the loop and going for subambient temps, further increasing your clocking headroom,
an aircooler is not going to cool as well as a W/c loop, both are hit by ambient temps but W/c deals with things better so enabling lower temps but if you are happy with air then yup, grab the updated board and chip, maybe W/c it down the line
Moto

 

[skitz9417]

well i was going fx 4300 and a new fx supported motherboard but im staying with my cpu and my temps are 38idle-54load so im going change out my h60 for a wc loop