Best $850 PC CAD

[Hochothecreamdog]

I have never built a pc before, and I am wondering what the best $650 pc is.
I plan on overclocking cpu and gpu.
This is my current Idea http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/cD46dC
Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations?
My currency is Canadian Dollars. I am willing to use mail in rebates.

 

[Matt Dobe]

Ah, so only the 46xx series?

 

[LucoTF]

It's basically the 2014 lineup. From memory it's

G3240
G3258
i3-4150
i3-4160
i5-4460
i5-4590
i5-4690
i5-4690k
i7-4790k

That said, you can often buy older chipset boards that have the latest BIOS updates applied (with a sticker on the box saying which revision it's at) and it can just be a simple case of asking the seller to check

recently did a b85 / 4460 build that worked right out of the box for this very reason

 

[LookItsRain]

Just to add information, my setup, i3 4370, r9 270x will not max out all games on ultra/high at 1080p, r9 280x will be needed for that.

Spending extra on a processor that wont be utilized is a waste imo, i still stand on the i3 and r9 280 setup.

AMD should not be an option because its a dead socket, 5% better performance in games with no upgrade path is not worth it if you have to buy a new platform in 2 years.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Why not drop abit off your build and buy a monitor. There is really no point upgrading your PC this much if your stuck on a 2003 resolution!

How about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.88 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Acer G226HQLBbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro for Students ($69.99)
Total: $780.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-17 09:52 EDT-0400


NEW monitor, 60fps at high/ultra gaming still, OS... I recommend you do this and upgrade from that tiny monitor.

Just to add information, my setup, i3 4370, r9 270x will not max out all games on ultra/high at 1080p, r9 280x will be needed for that.

Spending extra on a processor that wont be utilized is a waste imo, i still stand on the i3 and r9 280 setup.

AMD should not be an option because its a dead socket, 5% better performance in games with no upgrade path is not worth it if you have to buy a new platform in 2 years.

I think that I will get the better pc, with the i5 and r9 280. And I will upgrade my monitor later.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

I know that this build cuts a few corners to save price, but this will still give me great graphics performance, and get me a 1080p monitor. If anyone has any suggestions please tell me, thank you.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/PPCft6

 

[LookItsRain]

Good solid build you good to go unless prices change big time when you buy.

 

[LucoTF]

That i3-4340 is in store pick up only I think. Don't worry if there isn't a CC near you, any i3-4xxx will do.

The difference between the 41xx and 43xx is the onboard graphics are better on the 43xx, but as you're using a graphics card this shouldn't matter to you.

Other than that the build looks solid

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

That i3-4340 is in store pick up only I think. Don't worry if there isn't a CC near you, any i3-4xxx will do.

The difference between the 41xx and 43xx is the onboard graphics are better on the 43xx, but as you're using a graphics card this shouldn't matter to you.

Other than that the build looks solid

The i3 4340 is cheaper than any other i3, and I live near a store where I can pick it up

 

[LucoTF]

Yeah I did see that it was the cheapest at the time, that's why I checked up on it. Glad you live near a CC, that's a good deal for sure

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Do you know if Team makes good ram? I am thinking of using Team Vulcan ram. It seems to get amazing reviews on Newegg, and it s only $75 for 8 gigs. also, is the i5 4440 any better any better than the i5 4460? The 4460 is a bit cheaper than the 4440.
Thank you

 

[LucoTF]

no difference between 4440 and 4460 really, although 4460 is newer so your H81 motherboard MAY need a BIOS update before it would work with a 4460

As for RAM - there are only like 4 ram manufacturers on the planet, so all ram comes from one of those 4 OEMs regardless of brand

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

no difference between 4440 and 4460 really, although 4460 is newer so your H81 motherboard MAY need a BIOS update before it would work with a 4460

As for RAM - there are only like 4 ram manufacturers on the planet, so all ram comes from one of those 4 OEMs regardless of brand

Thank you

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Is there any difference between an overclocked r9 280 and an overclocked r9 280x?

 

[LucoTF]

Is there any difference between an overclocked r9 280 and an overclocked r9 280x?

The overclocked 280x is a few FPS faster in gaming benchmarks, overclocked 280 = stock 280x

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Is there any difference between an overclocked r9 280 and an overclocked r9 280x?

The overclocked 280x is a few FPS faster in gaming benchmarks, overclocked 280 = stock 280x

Is it worth the extra money

 

[LucoTF]

Unless the difference is quite small - probably not.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Do you think that I should bother with a Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer?

 

[LucoTF]

Do you think that I should bother with a Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer?

It's up to you. I barely use my dvd drive these days - maybe once every other month, and that's usually burning something to disc.

That said, it's so cheap that its better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it right?

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Do you think that I should bother with a Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer?

It's up to you. I barely use my dvd drive these days - maybe once every other month, and that's usually burning something to disc.

That said, it's so cheap that its better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it right?

Ok thanks

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Does the Gigabyte windforce r9 280 have better cooling than a xfx card?

 

[LookItsRain]

Does the Gigabyte windforce r9 280 have better cooling than a xfx card?

It should, but by only 1 or 2 degrees C, but the gigabyte cards have some quality issues, plus the xfx looks better, i would get the xfx.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Is the gtx 960 worth getting over the r9 280? I know that I will be upgrading to windows 10, and I want to know if there will be much of a difference in Windows 10 between Directx 11 and 12. The new Geforce card has Direcx 12 rather than the radeon's Directx 11Thank you.

 

[LookItsRain]

Is the gtx 960 worth getting over the r9 280? I know that I will be upgrading to windows 10, and I want to know if there will be much of a difference in Windows 10 between Directx 11 and 12. The new Geforce card has Direcx 12 rather than the radeon's Directx 11Thank you.

By the time directx12 is used by alot of games, a gtx 960 will be obsolete anyways.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Is the gtx 960 worth getting over the r9 280? I know that I will be upgrading to windows 10, and I want to know if there will be much of a difference in Windows 10 between Directx 11 and 12. The new Geforce card has Direcx 12 rather than the radeon's Directx 11Thank you.

By the time directx12 is used by alot of games, a gtx 960 will be obsolete anyways.

Thank you.

 

[Hochothecreamdog]

Should I go for a MSI CSM-H81M-P32 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard or a MSI CSM-H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard?

Thank you.