Best budget CPU for playing, recording and streaming games, and video editing?

[roymand]

I am buiding a computer from second hand things off ebay... I will be using it to start a tech channel on YouTube, and also gaming.

I want to record my gameplay almost 100% of the time that I am gaming, be able to stream once or twice a week, and be able to have things like skype and audacity running in the background of my games...

I have found both a FX 8350 Black Edition and an i5 3570k, both for about the same price...
I dont care about a marginal 1-3 FPS and I also dont care if one will get rendering done a minute faster...

I want to be able to play my games and record them at a high average and high minimum framerate with DXtory or Fraps in the background, and be able to stream frequently...
I know that the i5 3570k is better for gaming, but what about with recording software and/or skype and OBS (for steaming) running in the background?

Will I be seeing an advantage going with the AMD processor with 8 cores?

I already have my graphics card, it is a HD 7950 Windforce... Neither processor will be bottlenecking it, and both the processors and the graphics card are overclockable editions.

(I will be taking advantage of this and overclocking as high as I can)

 

[roymand]

Xeon will beat FX in any rendering task and with OC you will even get better performance.With FX you will need to OC it catch stock Xeon.I7 3820 is nice choice it is also overclockabel with proper motherboard.But still Xeon X5650 is best budget CPU for workstation.
Watch this if you want more info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWz3X_KMTqc

I am aware of TechYesCity's video, but still...
I will deffinetly be overclocking to the near max...
I do not pay my own electricity bill, so no problem there...
AMD's motherboards are far cheaper and the AM3+ socket is still getting new chips, so i have space to upgrade

 

[st3v30]

There wont be new CPU's on AM3+ only rebrands of old, AM3+ socket is dead.FX 9xxx is just factory OC FX 8350 nothing more or less.Alos if you want OC FX high you will need 990FX chipset mobo and they are not cheap or 990X mobo.

 

[Martin1982]

You can overclock with the 970 to no need for 990fx

 

[st3v30]

Yea but not past 4.5 Ghz or if you trow fan at every heatsink and bottom of CPU socket a fan for cooling it but still power phases on 970 will hold you back.

 

[roymand]

FX 8350 on 5.5 Ghz Scores In Geekbench

http://i.imgur.com/gpUJEoU.png

X5650 3.7 Ghz Scores In Geekbench

http://i.imgur.com/PT8yuF2.png

What is your point? the 8350 outperformed it, and it wasn't even 64 bit... this doesn't really help me out much sorry

1st score is single core performance and believe me you cant play games or do any rendering in 5.5 ghz since it will crash instantly this was probably with crazy cooling setup just to get highest score and it is not meant for every day use.
So 16k for multicore score FX 8350 and 30k for X5650 where do you see that FX outperformed??

Isn't a higher number better? because the AMD card got higher numbers, or am i mistaken with how this is graded?

 

[st3v30]

how is 16 higher than 30??

List of FX 8350 scores

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?dir=desc&q=8350&sort=multicore_score

List of X5650 scores

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?dir=desc&q=X5650&sort=multicore_score

 

[roymand]

I guess I will be going for the Xeon...
I have seen YouTube videos, and it can play games and shouldn't bottleneck my HD 7950
The multiple cores means efforetlessly streaming and recording my games, without impact on the games
And I will overclock it as high as possible... Aim for the stars!

btw how high do you think i could overclock it to with the recommended cooler of yours?

 

[st3v30]

Probably past 3.5 Ghz also depends which mobo you get.Here is review of a bit weaker version of Themis

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Raijintek/Themis/6.html

As you can see it holds 4770k on 4.2Ghz without problems in AIDA64E test.

Better cooler and mobo will get you on 4ghz or past also you need good PSU to withstand high OC.

 

[st3v30]

Read this guy comments he have some info about OC and what cooler he use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdwd1tOui3Y

 

[roymand]

Read this guy comments he have some info about OC and what cooler he use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdwd1tOui3Y

What about a xeon x5660? I found one for 102euro, wouldn't that be better?
It would overclock just fine right? with the same mobo too

 

[roymand]

Probably past 3.5 Ghz also depends which mobo you get.Here is review of a bit weaker version of Themis

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Raijintek/Themis/6.html

As you can see it holds 4770k on 4.2Ghz without problems in AIDA64E test.

Better cooler and mobo will get you on 4ghz or past also you need good PSU to withstand high OC.

Which mobo will I need then for 4ghz?

 

[st3v30]

He has Asus Sabertooth X58,so any mobo with nice heat sinks on it and with good brand name will get you past 4ghz or 4.If you found any just post here in forum on Motherboard section and ppl from there will help you out.

 

[roymand]

He has Asus Sabertooth X58,so any mobo with nice heat sinks on it and with good brand name will get you past 4ghz or 4.If you found any just post here in forum on Motherboard section and ppl from there will help you out.

But the gigabyte mobo you recommended is good right?

 

[roymand]

Is the 5660 better? The specs are the same, and 200mhz extra for no extra cost is tempting

 

[st3v30]

Yea it is tempting but if price difference is big then dont buy it XD

 

[st3v30]

Best mobo for that CPU and it can have 2 of them EVGA Classified SR-2 so just how much CPU power is there hehe

 

[roymand]

Best mobo for that CPU and it can have 2 of them EVGA Classified SR-2 so just how much CPU power is there hehe

I can have 2 of them???!!!!
so i can add another cpu later?!
that is sick!

 

[st3v30]

i donno if you need to have 2 at start or you can boot with just one but yea it is sick!!

 

[roymand]

i donno if you need to have 2 at start or you can boot with just one but yea it is sick!!

Wouldn't two heatsinks constrict airflow? And that would result in lower frequencys...

 

[st3v30]

You will need to have rly rly big case for that mother board or some tipe of open case like testbench where you can easy swap parts.Never encountered this type of mobo so i cant guide you here, but if should be problem if case is open or have enough air flow.

 

[roymand]

You will need to have rly rly big case for that mother board or some tipe of open case like testbench where you can easy swap parts.Never encountered this type of mobo so i cant guide you here, but if should be problem if case is open or have enough air flow.

Where did u get the info that the mobo supports 2 cpus at once? I looked up the specs and I only found that it supported 1

btw the price for that mobo is really high now, so im searching for another one...

 

[st3v30]

You can see on motherboard 2 CPU sockets.

 

[roymand]

You can see on motherboard 2 CPU sockets.

The mobo you suggested: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gigabyte-GA-X58A-UD3R-LGA-1366-Sockel-B-Intel-Motherboard-/371286929101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item56726ceecd&clk_rvr_id=806016951003&rmvSB=true

I found an ASUS P6X58D-E: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-NOT-WORKING-/331462154614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2caf1976
It has Sata 6gb/s and 1600mhz up to 24gb ram with crossfirex gpu support...

please show me where you saw it supported dual cpu's, I can't find it

 

[st3v30]

Here
http://i.imgur.com/vCZXQXD.jpg

ASUS P6X58D-E is good mobo it will OC that Xeon to 4 or more Ghz without problems with proper cooling solution.

 

[roymand]

Here
http://i.imgur.com/vCZXQXD.jpg

ASUS P6X58D-E is good mobo it will OC that Xeon to 4 or more Ghz without problems with proper cooling solution.

That mobo in the pic isn't the same one you recommended me on ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gigabyte-GA-X58A-UD3R-LGA-1366-Sockel-B-Intel-Motherboard-/371286929101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item56726ceecd&clk_rvr_id=806031931227&rmvSB=true