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I'm building a budget gaming pc. My plan is i3 8100 because I trust intel, it serves me well. But there is Ryzen now and I am confused! Should I stick on i3 8100 for my budget gaming pc? :rolleyes:
 
I'm building a budget gaming pc. My plan is i3 8100 because I trust intel, it serves me well. But there is Ryzen now and I am confused! Should I stick on i3 8100 for my budget gaming pc? :rolleyes:

If you are on a budget, and comfortable overclocking i would suggest AMD 1600 or 2600. That way you have an upgrade path till at least 2020. And with decent cheap cooling (hyper 212) you should be able to hit 3.8GHz all core sustained.

If you want to drop it in and forget it, intel.
 

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If you are on a budget, and comfortable overclocking i would suggest AMD 1600 or 2600. That way you have an upgrade path till at least 2020. And with decent cheap cooling (hyper 212) you should be able to hit 3.8GHz all core sustained.

If you want to drop it in and forget it, intel.

I'm not comfortable with overclocking. I'm just a type of person who is plug and play. Is there any cpu in AMD that is better and cheaper than i3 8100 without overclocking and have a stock cooler?
 
Yes and no. There are no definitive "Fastest" It all depends on which programs you run. AMD will win a few. But for a slight majority of GAMES, Intel will win. If you care only about getting 5 fps faster then Intel is the way to go.

Ryzen 3 1300X is a true quad core that peaks at 3.7 GHz. It's base is 3.5 Ghz. It's the closest thing to an i3-8100. But even at 3.7Ghz it will be a tad bit slower than the Intel. It's ~$100. Add in a $70 B350 motherboard and you are good to go.

A Ryzen 5, 1600 is 6 cores 12 threads and will boost to 3.6GHz with a 3.2 Base. ~$115 + 70 B350 board

A Ryzen 5 1600x is 6 cores 12 threads and will boost to 4.0GHz with a 3.6 Base. ~$150. You'll need to buy a basic cooler (Hyper 212) for about $20 + $70 B350 motherboard. This will beat the i3-8100.

A Ryzen 2600 is 6 cores 12 threads and will boost to 3.9GHz It's base is 3.4Ghz. It's about ~$155 + $70 B450 motherboard. It's a bit more a balanced approach and a favorite of gamers on a budget. It should beat out the i3-8100 on the majority of games.

6 cores/12 threads will be certainly more snappy when you have multiple browser tabs open. Especially games where there is heavy AI, or there is heavy CPU use like Civilization.

The advantage of going AMD is you can pull the CPU a year from now, sell it used, and get a much faster processor without swapping the motherboard. You get no such guarantees with Intel.
 
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A i3-8100 is a very good gamer which goes for $136.
It has 4 threads and has a passmark rating of 8042 when all 4 threads are fully loaded and a single thread rating of 2100.
Single thread is important to most games.
Few games can take good advantage of more than 4 threads.
If you think your games might need more, like multiplayer games, then look at the 6 core $160 Intel 9400F with a rating of 12188 and a single thread rating of 2390.
The F does not come with a integrated graphics, but any sort of a gamer is going to use a discrete graphics card anyway.
You can use any 300 series motherboard you want, starting around $60.
There are very good ryzen offerings if you need many threads but you should be prepared to do a bit of overclocking since single thread performance is less than intel.
For example a similar $155 6 thread ryzen 2600 has a rating of 13530/2006

What will be your graphics card?
A balanced gamer will budget 2x the cost of the processor.
I think a appropriate $300 GTX1660ti takes you out of the range of a budget build.
 
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6/12 3.6 turbo $119.99
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-435&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-AMD-Ryzen-CPU-_-Ryzen-5-1600-_-SKAG&&s_kwcid=AL!5844!3!234590142956!e!!g!!ryzen 5 1600&gclid=CjwKCAjwk7rmBRAaEiwAhDGhxF9TxCoHCSUyixWcj0Vz4drTZSIcz2TsTLDtFWj_brchzGXcl_-TgBoC9-0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
AMD Ryzen 3 1200 4/4 3.4 turbo $69.99
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113446&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC--na--na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Neither will limit an RX570 4gb in most titles. The Ryzen 5 1600 is much much more powerful and much more future proof. The R3 will limit gpus faster than a 580/1060, but the Ryzen 5 won't limit most current GPUs. The Ryzen 3 1200 with an overclock is very close to an 8100 but the Ryzen 3 cost half as much as the 8100. At stock, the R3 1200 isn't bad either.
Ignore the R3 1300x since it is just a factory overclocked 1200 and it cost $30 more.
 
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Couple things.....

The CPU is nearly irrelevant with an rx 570. You'll be GPU bound at 1080p.

4 core/4 thread chips are a terrible value buy in 2019. Especially the 8100. I'm of the opinion the r5 1600 is the only CPU anyone should buy until the end of may when ryzen 3000 specs are (hopefully) released. The 1600 is such a ridiculous value right now that even if the price plummets further in a few months it doesn't really matter that much. If you are in the US and have a micro center in your area you can buy a 1600 for $80 and get $30 off a compatible motherboard right now. Get a good motherboard and you'll have an excellent upgrade path.

No custom PC is plug and play. At the very least you'll need to load the memory XMP profile or you will be running at 2133.

Overclocking a ryzen CPU is incredibility easy. Not that it even matters with an RX 570. I've built 5 ryzen 5 1600 systems in the last 3 months. Everyone of them overclocked to 3.8 at stock voltage or less. Literally all you have to do is type a 38 into the clock multiplier and run a few hours of realbench (while monitoring temps) to stability test. The stock cooler is excellent and you should not replace it.
 
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The 2600 is down to about $160 or so, and, would/should certainly get the nod over any/all 4c/4t CPUs, which probably ought not be considered for any gaming rig in 2019 in my opinion...

Most folks are busier choosing between i5-9400F and R5-1600 or 2600/2600X...; if not wanting to OC ever, I"d go for 2600X, although, if you can wait two months, I'd sure be curious to see what RX570 mainboards and R5-3600X bring to the value/performance table...