Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: January 2012 (Archive)

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The motherboard is what determines the overclocking ability...
 


Read the Haswell review on THG. Haswell does not overclock as well as Ivy.
 


Also, Haswell improvements over the Bridge series:

(Ignore the [x])
Features carried over from Ivy Bridge
A 22 nm manufacturing process.
3D tri-gate transistors.
A 14-stage pipeline (since the Core microarchitecture).[9]
Mainstream up to quad-core.[10]
Native support for dual channel DDR3.[11]
64 KB (32 KB Instruction + 32 KB Data) L1 cache and 256 KB L2 cache per core.[12]
Confirmed new features[edit source | editbeta]
Wider Core: 4th ALU, 3rd AGU, 2nd Branch prediction unit, deeper buffers, higher cache bandwidth, improved front-end.
Haswell New Instructions (HNI, includes Advanced Vector Extensions 2 (AVX2), gather, BMI1, BMI2, and FMA3 support).[13]
New sockets – LGA 1150 for desktops and rPGA947 & BGA1364 for the mobile market.[14]
New socket – LGA 2011-3 for the Enthusiast-Class Desktop Platform Haswell-E.[15]
Intel Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX).[16]
Graphics support in hardware for Direct3D 11.1 and OpenGL 4.0.[17]
DDR4 for the enterprise/server variant (Haswell-EX).[18]
DDR4 for the Enthusiast-Class Desktop Platform Haswell-E.[19]
Variable Base clock (BClk)[20] like LGA 2011.[21]
Fully integrated voltage regulator, thereby moving a component from the motherboard onto the CPU.[22]
New advanced power-saving system.
37, 47, 57 W thermal design power (TDP) mobile processors.[10]
35, 45, 65, 84, 95 and 130-140w (high-end, Haswell-E) TDP desktop processors.[10]
15 W TDP processors for the Ultrabook platform (multi-chip package like Westmere)[23] leading to reduced heat which results in thinner as well as lighter Ultrabooks, but performance level will be lower than the 17W version.[24]
Shrink PCH[25] from 65 nm to 32 nm.

Performance
Compared to Ivy Bridge:
Approximately 8% better vector processing performance.[8]
up to 6% faster single-threaded performance.
6% faster multi-threaded performance.
Haswell draws around 8% more power under load than Ivy Bridge.[8]
A 6% increase in sequential CPU performance (eight execution ports per core versus six).[8]
Up to 20% performance increase over the integrated HD4000 GPU (Haswell HD4600 vs Ivy Bridge's built-in Intel HD4000).[8]
Total performance improvement on average is about 3%[8]
 
I wouldn't mind seeing other categories either, Casual, Gaming, Semi-Pro, Professional. That would take a lot more work on the list since there's so many more variables.


Right, and like I said, if was to build a new machine today to upgrade from a C2D or older, I'd probably go with a Haswell system. That's because I'd buy an i5 level system with a 7950/760 level GPU. Once I'm paying that level, the extra $40 for CPU and mboard is pretty small. For people on a lower budget, Haswell may not be their best option.


In actual clock rates, yes, Sandy will go higher. However, when you compare the IPC improvements, it's nearly a wash between SB and IB ( though IB enjoys lower power consumption. ) And the upgrade point is not "mute" when you consider the newer chips support additional instruction sets that SB lacks, meaning in those tasks they absolutely fly by the older gen. If you don't use those added features, then it may not matter as much.
 
i was only referring to gaming and even then each generation is a little better. just very little at the i5 level. this is of course assuming you have a near 5.0GHz overclock
 


If you live near a microcenter like I do, than the Haswell processors may be worth a look. For example, if you don't plan to overclock you can get the i5-4570 for about $17 less than the i5-3350P.

I also got a 1150 socket H87 mobo for about $80 (I'm not overclocking).

But of course there only only a few microcenters so Tom's can't make that overall recommendation.

 


I am actually planning to overclock. I am getting a 4670k because I'm only going to do gaming and regular work. No editing or stuff like that. Is there any performance increase for 4770k over 4670k if I were to do gaming?
 
Not in the immediate future. The i7 comes with more logical cores through hyper-threading and a larger L3 cache. As of right now, few games even utilize four cores and fewer still heavily utilize the L3 cache. If that were to change, then yes the i7 will be a more desirable chip for gaming. Since a four-core chip has just started getting utilized, I'd guess it'd be at least two years before games start regularly using more. Seeing as the XB1 and PS4 are sporting common multi-core CPUs, game devs might jump on it even sooner, but I can't say for certain.

My bet is that it will be at least three years before a quad-core starts getting bogged down with gaming.
 


LMAO I was discussing this topic all day!
 
Methinks they just read the article and leave a comment without actually reading what everyone else has said.
 
Glad I found the current CPU Hierarchy Chart! I have an E8600 Core 2 Duo, toward eventually finishing a build on a MSI P43-Neo. Yeah, it's all older tech., but if I'd splurge a bit on 8 - 16 gigs of PC6400 DDR2 SDRAM and a 192-bit GTX 550 Ti or GTX 650 Ti, I'd have a decent gaming box. At that, I could see hot rodding my ca. 2007 eMachines a touch more, with an E7600 Core 2 Duo (from a Pentium D 930) and a 64-bit OS, to squeeze a few more drops of useable life from it!
 


Liar
 


If you get enough people gambling online, statistics says someone is going to make money eventually.

Whether one sample is statistacally significant is another matter. Lots of selection bias too.
 
So you measured StarCraft and Skyrim FPS, two of the oldest, most single-core games out there that are still played, and FarCry 3, which is very multi-core optimized, and then you took a simple average of these three games to derive your results? What a terrible, Intel-biased methodolgy. Take FarCry3, Battlefield 3 and Crysis 3 and average THOSE three games and see what your results are. I can already tell you, that Core i3 would be buried by the FX-4350 and the FX-6300 and possibly beaten by that $79 Athlon II X4 750K. It's funny how everybody sh!ts on AMD CPUs, saying it's a sob story to point to the lack of multi-core optimization, yet somehow, with the newer multi-core gaming engines, AMD CPUs get FASTER as they get older...
 
More and more games will be written for the 8 core PS4 and XBOX 1. The game companies will optimize their games for multi threaded performance so I would choose an i7 4770K. Use two memory modules, leave 2 slots for future upgrade and after 2 years you double your memory and upgrade the graphics card (or add an extra). Then your PC will be fast enough for the new games coming out. Just don't overclock your CPU to the limit, 4 GHz will give you plenty performance and it will last a long time. If you save $150 on the CPU now, you might want to upgrade the whole system after a couple of years.
 
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