Best Memory & SSD for a Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe?

[amarkscpa]

What is best bang for the buck for memory on a Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe?

Below is Newegg comparison using Asus Quarlified Vendor list for this MB, 16GB.
http://tinyurl.com/b2h2g9k
Any opinion on G.Skil memory?

Also looking for recommendation on a 240GB or 256GB SSD internal drive.

Thanks for any help/recommendations.

 

[bigbasedrum]

Here's what my experience has taught me. I have an Asus Z77-V Pro, very similar to yours. Get whatever RAM you want, in any configuration and size you want. So long as it's 1600 MHz RAM and not more than 4 sticks of RAM. Also, recommend at least 2 sticks of RAM, and from a quality vendor (Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston). If you get two sticks, put them in the two blue slots, if you get four sticks, fill the slots 😀. Most probably the board will default to 1200 MHz. This isn't an issue though, just go into the BIOS and set it to 1600 MHz and then everything will be fine! 😀

 

[bigcyco1]

Here's what my experience has taught me. I have an Asus Z77-V Pro, very similar to yours. Get whatever RAM you want, in any configuration and size you want. So long as it's 1600 MHz RAM and not more than 4 sticks of RAM. Also, recommend at least 2 sticks of RAM, and from a quality vendor (Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston). If you get two sticks, put them in the two blue slots, if you get four sticks, fill the slots 😀. Most probably the board will default to 1200 MHz. This isn't an issue though, just go into the BIOS and set it to 1600 MHz and then everything will be fine! 😀

+1

 

[amarkscpa]

Here's what my experience has taught me. I have an Asus Z77-V Pro, very similar to yours. Get whatever RAM you want, in any configuration and size you want. So long as it's 1600 MHz RAM and not more than 4 sticks of RAM. Also, recommend at least 2 sticks of RAM, and from a quality vendor (Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston). If you get two sticks, put them in the two blue slots, if you get four sticks, fill the slots 😉 😀. Most probably the board will default to 1200 MHz. This isn't an issue though, just go into the BIOS and set it to 1600 MHz and then everything will be fine! 😀

Well thanks for that info! 😉
I have a better idea, wait for Black Friday deals, and decide then 😀
But if the price differential is not that great between Qualified Vendor List and not on the list, I will choose the Qualified Vendor List. Also, I do want XMP memory so I only have to change those default settings to XMP, "just enable XMP on your compatible motherboard and you'll automatically get optimized memory overclocking". Did you get XMP memory for your Asus Z77-V Pro?

 

[TheBigTroll]

dude, im telling you not to get the z77-v deluxe. its a rip off for what it provides. the z77-v pro is a much better choice

any ram works. gskill, mushkin, patriot, corsair, crucial all will work fine. if you are using kingston, use the 1.5v or lower variety

xmp isnt that useful to me but msot ram has it. the brands i listed for sure have it

for a heatsink, look at the noctua nh-d14

 

[amarkscpa]

dude, im telling you not to get the z77-v deluxe. its a rip off for what it provides. the z77-v pro is a much better choice

any ram works. gskill, mushkin, patriot, corsair, crucial all will work fine. if you are using kingston, use the 1.5v or lower variety

xmp isnt that useful to me but msot ram has it. the brands i listed for sure have it

for a heatsink, look at the noctua nh-d14

When you say " z77-v pro", which do you mean:
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819
or this one:
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131853

 

[Poltregeist]

When you say " z77-v pro", which do you mean:
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819
or this one:
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131853

He means the first, less expensive board. The only difference between the 2 feature wise is that the more expensive variant ha a feature called Thunderbolt. This isn't worth the extra $50 right now since it is scarcely used.

 

[amarkscpa]

He means the first, less expensive board. The only difference between the 2 feature wise is that the more expensive variant ha a feature called Thunderbolt. This isn't worth the extra $50 right now since it is scarcely used.

Thanks, looking over the Asus specs for both MB:
1) under storage, Deluxe has additional Marvell PCIe 9128 controller
2) under LAN, Deluxe has additional Realtek 8111F Lan controller, has dual LAN 802.3az Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE) appliance rating
3) Wireless, Deluxe Wi-Fi supports dual band
4) Audio, slightly different chip, Deluxe supports Blu-Ray Lossless sound
5) USB Ports slightly different, confusing..., best to look at boards
6) Deluxe has "Asus SSD Caching", while V-Pro apparently does not, NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!, as I have SSD

Here are links, choose compare:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V/
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V_DELUXE/

 

[Poltregeist]

Thanks, looking over the Asus specs for both MB:
1) under storage, Deluxe has additional Marvell PCIe 9128 controller
2) under LAN, Deluxe has additional Realtek 8111F Lan controller, has dual LAN 802.3az Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE) appliance rating
3) Wireless, Deluxe Wi-Fi supports dual band
4) Audio, slightly different chip, Deluxe supports Blu-Ray Lossless sound
5) USB Ports slightly different, confusing..., best to look at boards
6) Deluxe has "Asus SSD Caching", while V-Pro apparently does not, NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!, as I have SSD

Here are links, choose compare:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V/
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V_DELUXE/

Just go with the Pro. The features you listed don't really increase performance in any aspect. As for the extra controllers, not really that important as you will most likely very seldom use them.

 

[amarkscpa]

Just go with the Pro. The features you listed don't really increase performance in any aspect. As for the extra controllers, not really that important as you will most likely very seldom use them.

I pretty much agree, EXCEPT for the Asus SSD Caching feature:
ASUS SSD Caching
3X Faster Performance at a Click
SSD Caching from ASUS is easier than ever. At 3X faster, this feature boosts system performance by using an installed SSD with no capacity limitations as a cache for frequently accessed data. Harness a combination of SSD-like performance and response and hard drive capacity with just one click, no rebooting needed and instant activation for complete ease of use, and even prevent data loss with included backup functionality.

Best I can tell, this option adds a 32GB SSD card to the Deluxe for caching.

 

[Poltregeist]

I pretty much agree, EXCEPT for the Asus SSD Caching feature:
ASUS SSD Caching
3X Faster Performance at a Click
SSD Caching from ASUS is easier than ever. At 3X faster, this feature boosts system performance by using an installed SSD with no capacity limitations as a cache for frequently accessed data. Harness a combination of SSD-like performance and response and hard drive capacity with just one click, no rebooting needed and instant activation for complete ease of use, and even prevent data loss with included backup functionality.

Best I can tell, this option adds a 32GB SSD card to the Deluxe for caching.

Eh. If you have the budget go for it. Otherwise it really is a waste of $50 that can be used on a better GPU.

 

[amarkscpa]

dude, im telling you not to get the z77-v deluxe. its a rip off for what it provides. the z77-v pro is a much better choice

any ram works. gskill, mushkin, patriot, corsair, crucial all will work fine. if you are using kingston, use the 1.5v or lower variety

xmp isnt that useful to me but msot ram has it. the brands i listed for sure have it

for a heatsink, look at the noctua nh-d14

Could you comment on benefits of Asus Disk Caching, which appears to be the primary difference to me between the boards.

ASUS SSD Caching
3X Faster Performance at a Click
SSD Caching from ASUS is easier than ever. At 3X faster, this feature boosts system performance by using an installed SSD with no capacity limitations as a cache for frequently accessed data. Harness a combination of SSD-like performance and response and hard drive capacity with just one click, no rebooting needed and instant activation for complete ease of use, and even prevent data loss with included backup functionality.
Best I can tell, this option adds a 32GB SSD card to the Deluxe for caching.

Here is video on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhCGo0LWaTY&feature=related

A 32GB SSD retail price is $50 or more...

 

[amarkscpa]

Eh. If you have the budget go for it. Otherwise it really is a waste of $50 that can be used on a better GPU.

Here is interesting thread on the subject of SSD Caching:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2261463
Many differring opinions on the subject...

The Asus video is a good starting point to see the SSD Caching software and SSD Caching in operation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhCGo0LWaTY&feature=related

I just purchased a Samsung 830 SSD and will have a 1.5 TB hard drive on my computer system, as well as HD Drive Docking Station for older HD/SSD drives.

FWIW, I am a CPA and need the past 8+ years of QuickBooks applications and the last 10+ years of Intuit ProSeries tax applications on my computer system. With the SSD Caching, I am wondering if speed/performance will improve if I put the most frequent applications on SSD Caching...? For example, current and prior year tax programs, the two most often used versions of Quickbooks, and also MS Excel and MS Word for SSD Caching... Hopefully, I can change this SSD Caching as new tax programs and QB applications come out...?

 

[Poltregeist]

Like I have been saying, the only good thing with SSD caching is that 32GB drive included. Use that as a boot drive and use your main SSD for everything else. Even if the performance increases are true, you won't be able to notice them. They will be minimally faster.

 

[pgerv]

SSD caching is what exactly? does it only come with certain motherboards like the asus product line. im getting an asus-v lk for myself and was wondering if i should get a 126GB SSD just so i can take advantage of the 32GB of ssd caching?

 

[Poltregeist]

SSD caching is what exactly? does it only come with certain motherboards like the asus product line. im getting an asus-v lk for myself and was wondering if i should get a 126GB SSD just so i can take advantage of the 32GB of ssd caching?

Basically SSD caching (on this board) is described in the product description: "ASUS SSD Caching at a click for 3x faster performance." I believe this to be a bit exaggerated but most likely you won't notice the difference. I personally cannot tell whether it has a built-in 32GB SSD or it takes it from a separate SSD you buy. Either way it really doesn't seem too good.

 

[pgerv]

oh alright, so ill stick with the 500GB HDD and the 126 or even smaller SSD for OS and games.. *** i dont need much more than that if i wanna game. thanks for the reply

 

[Poltregeist]

oh alright, so ill stick with the 500GB HDD and the 126 or even smaller SSD for OS and games.. *** i dont need much more than that if i wanna game. thanks for the reply

I guess your talking about a 128GB SSD, 126 is an unusual amount. If you are, try the Samsung 830 or 840. One of the best SSDs on the market.

 

[TheBigTroll]

1) under storage, Deluxe has additional Marvell PCIe 9128 controller (you shouldnt be connecting that many drives anyways. thats for raid controllers)
2) under LAN, Deluxe has additional Realtek 8111F Lan controller, has dual LAN 802.3az Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE) appliance rating
3) Wireless, Deluxe Wi-Fi supports dual band (a gigabyte ud5h board has that for 100 dollars less)
4) Audio, slightly different chip, Deluxe supports Blu-Ray Lossless sound (not useful. all onboard audio that isnt creative or asus xonar sounds the same)
5) USB Ports slightly different, confusing..., best to look at boards (look at a ud5h from gigabyte if you want connectiveity
6) Deluxe has "Asus SSD Caching", while V-Pro apparently does not, NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!, as I have (Intel SRT which all boards have, is the same thing. just that you can cache 2 drives rather than one, which nobody does)

therefore either get the v-pro or get a gigabyte z77x-ud5h.

 

[amarkscpa]

1) under storage, Deluxe has additional Marvell PCIe 9128 controller (you shouldnt be connecting that many drives anyways. thats for raid controllers)
2) under LAN, Deluxe has additional Realtek 8111F Lan controller, has dual LAN 802.3az Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE) appliance rating
3) Wireless, Deluxe Wi-Fi supports dual band (a gigabyte ud5h board has that for 100 dollars less)
4) Audio, slightly different chip, Deluxe supports Blu-Ray Lossless sound (not useful. all onboard audio that isnt creative or asus xonar sounds the same)
5) USB Ports slightly different, confusing..., best to look at boards (look at a ud5h from gigabyte if you want connectiveity
6) Deluxe has "Asus SSD Caching", while V-Pro apparently does not, NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!, as I have (Intel SRT which all boards have, is the same thing. just that you can cache 2 drives rather than one, which nobody does)

therefore either get the v-pro or get a gigabyte z77x-ud5h.

Talked to friend and we discussed the merits of each.

Am now leaning toward the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro as you suggest. FWIW, another difference is there is no eSata on the Pro while the Deluxe has eSata.

 

[TheBigTroll]

hmm... did i tell you about the gigabyte z77x-ud5h? because it has about everything you need

do you even use esata? can you even use all the IO that the motherboard provides? i personally use a asus z77-v LK and i cant use half of the back IO

 

[amarkscpa]

hmm... did i tell you about the gigabyte z77x-ud5h? because it has about everything you need

do you even use esata? can you even use all the IO that the motherboard provides? i personally use a asus z77-v LK and i cant use half of the back IO

My hard disk docking station uses both USB3 and esata, and I wanted to test out the speed using both connections, but USB is likely faster.

Looked at that gigabyte z77 board, but that version does not come with Wi-Fi, and the one that does is more expensive than the Asus Z77 Pro. Also, have generally always gone with Asus MB, and have always been satisfied.

 

[bigcyco1]

These boards seem on par almost GIGABYTE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128558&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

VS

ASUS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131818&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

They both have great features, and both have their ups and downs.

 

[amarkscpa]

That's a pretty nice setup. The board can handle it but it is really necessary (2400 RAM). You won't see a considerable difference unless you are doing video processing and such. Just go with 1600 RAM and save yourself $80. As for the HyperX, I have heard good things but no personal experience. Another popular brand is the Corsair Vengeance. If the normal size doesn't fit, then the only difference with their low profile (LP) RAM is no heat spreaders. This makes really no difference though.

OK, got one heck of a deal on the 16GB of RAM at Newegg for $59.99, on sale with $20 discount.
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10D-16GBXLItem #: N82E16820231528

This 2 x 8GB is approved for Asus P8777V-Pro accoreding to G.SKILL website:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=456
In addition, Newegg user comments are all positive and Newegg has given it an IronEgg guarantee...

Now which of you guys told me that 16GB RAM was too much memory, well do you still think it's too much for $60 ==> under $4 per GB...? 😉

 

[amarkscpa]

Also, for those interested in a good article explaining RAM for Ivy Bridge, especially for G.SKILL:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6372/memory-performance-16gb-ddr31333-to-ddr32400-on-ivy-bridge-igp-with-gskill

 

[TheBigTroll]

yeah. memory does nothing to increase performance by a lot on ivy bridge. only on trinity apus

16gb is overkill unless you work with video editing projects.

there is some crucial ballistix sport 2x4gb at newegg going for 29.99. approved ram means nothing. manufacturers cant test every ram stick.

wifi is irrelevant. seriously, just get one yourself. they are so cheap