BestConfigs - High-End AMD Gaming PC

[luke904]

a 5970 will perform better than a 5850 Xfire because it has more stream processors

and this is a gaming computer... so the 955 would destroy the 1055t... and even in other things 6 cores is way overkill

 

[MadAdmiral]

^At stock, the 5970 and 5850 CF are equals. Pretty much every review shows this. In fact, I can't think of a single one that shows a difference that could be considered by anyone to be significant. The 5970 has better overclocking potential though.

I'll say it again. In gaming, the X4 955 and the X6s perform the same. By definition, they 955 cannot "destroy" the 1055T if they are equal.

I would completely disagree with the statement that six cores are overkill in every application. If you're doing heavy rendering, encoding, number crunching or really any processing, the extra two cores makes a huge difference. Just check out any of the reviews of the i7-980X to see how much more power you can get out of those extra two cores.

It just happens that AMD didn't get it right on their first try. The X6s simply don't offer huge performance gains across the board. They do happen to do better in so applications, such as photo and video editing, but in others they can't quite keep up with the i7-930. That's fine, as the 1055T is still $100 cheaper by itself, and the AM3 socket is a good $150 cheaper than the LGA 1366.

 

[luke904]

fact:

5970 has 3200 shaders clocked at 725

5850 x fire has 2880 clocked at 725

so maybe they do have the same performance for some reason... but hardware wise the 5970 is more powerful than 5850 xfire






http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Gaming-Left-4-Dead-2,2433.html

this shows the 1055t quite a bit behind the 955 and a mere .3 fps from the 1090t...
equal you say?

same here: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Gaming-Left-4-Dead,2432.html


this says it all: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Performance-Index,1407.html

its alot of tests combined




and yah the 1055t will be better for productivity apps but it's just not that big of a difference... check the charts.. you spend 50 bucks more and maybe get 10% at best

and this is a gaming machine, not a photo editing machine... and would you really spend 50 bucks more so you could edit your photos 10% faster?

 

[luke904]

as for getting more power out of 2 cores....

its not 2 cores with the 980x... its 2 cores 4 threads and 4 mb of cache... alot of the gains are from the cache

 

[MadAdmiral]

fact:

5970 has 3200 shaders clocked at 725

5850 x fire has 2880 clocked at 725

so maybe they do have the same performance for some reason... but hardware wise the 5970 is more powerful than 5850 xfire

That's exactly what I said at the very start. The 5970 is technically 5870s CF, but performs like 5850 CF.

this shows the 1055t quite a bit behind the 955 and a mere .3 fps from the 1090t...
equal you say?

0.3 FPS isn't significant. That's what I said, there is not a SIGNIFICANT difference. If there is no difference, then they're equal. Would I recommend getting an X6 strictly for gaming? No, and I never have. If you had read the full thread, you would have seen my build is one of very few that didn't use an X6.

and yah the 1055t will be better for productivity apps but it's just not that big of a difference... check the charts.. you spend 50 bucks more and maybe get 10% at best

It's quite a bit more than 10% in many productivity applications. The main uses of the X6 would be for video and photo editing. That's where you see large gains.

and this is a gaming machine, not a photo editing machine... and would you really spend 50 bucks more so you could edit your photos 10% faster?

Did you even bother to look at the builds? As I said above, if you had, you'd have seen that my build is one of the few that didn't use the X6. I think there are two builds that didn't, but I'm not checking that. I know it is the only one that used the X4 955 and dual 5970s. So if you could please read the thread you're posting in and actually make sure you understand what others are saying, it would save everyone a lot of time.

I do agree that the 980X is different from the X6. That's because Intel did the six core CPU right and AMD didn't. I almost never recommend the X6, even for non-gaming builds. You have to have the exact right mix of uses and budget range, making it a very narrow window of opportunity for the CPU.

 

[ionut19]

What if the person that is making his gaming rig also does video/photo editing? A 6 core will help a lot in that case ). So it covers a wider field of interest.

 

[luke904]

Gaming is inherently unbalanced. I also doubt that the 955 would become the bottleneck.

If you'd prefer, I could swap in the X6 1055T for the 955. That'd put me $6 over, but I could drop the HDD to the 500 GB model.


that to me suggests that you thought the 1055t would be better than the 955 in gaming



but yes, i do really like your build... you got as much gpu power as possible and dont have any bottlenecks.. the only thing i could see is getting the 965 just to make sure and its only 15 bucks more


as for the 5970's... i just would not expect them to perform the same from a hardware point of view as 5850 x fire.. maybe they do maybe they dont in the real world



and 6 core vs 4 core is kinda stupid for me to debate about... i run an overclocked dual and i dont need anything more



i wouldnt say amd did their 6 core wrong... it was never meant to be a performance champ.. it was meant for a cheap 6 core and something to tide amd over until they can really design a 6 core properly.

 

[MadAdmiral]

I said the part about the X6 is case the build was to be considered more balanced. I don't really see the point in absolutely needing an X6 in a high end AMD build.

 

[ice919]

Processor:$164.99
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

Motherboard:$129.99
ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131636

RAM:$165.99
GeIL Evo Two 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model GET34GB2000C6DC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144438

Graphics Card:$899.98 ($449.99 each)
(2) * MSI N480GTX-M2D15-B GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127502

Hard Drive:$158.00 and $109.99
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136592

Case:$99.99
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

Power Supply:$149.99
Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371036

DVD Burner:$17.99
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

CPU Cooler:$59.99
Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608016


We have here a 3.4 GHz quad, with dual 480s, cl6 ram, a SSD, and a great cpu cooler all for

Grand Total: $1,956.90 before shipping and rebates($40)

 

[karma831]

SSD
OCZ 100gb Phoenix $260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231362

Mobo
GA-x58-ud3R $189 w/ promo code MBTEN92
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423

Hmms...I think you might have made a mistake in your build 😵.

 

[minix69]

CPU: Phenom IIx4 965
Mobo: ta790gx A+3 5.x
Combo price Ebay $230
Mem: 8gb(4x2gb) Crucial Ballistix DDR3 PC3 12800 1600mhz
Newegg $150 (4gb) Ebay $86 (4gb)
total $236
HD: samsung spinpoint 500gb 7200rpm sata 2
Newegg $59
GPU: Sapphire HD 5870 1gb
Ebay $255!!!
PSU: XFX 650w Modular
Ebay $69
DVD Burners: Had 2 Layin Around!
1 samsung 16x
1 dvd-ram Multi burner 16x
Total Cost $849! 😀

 

[drinkbleach]

^ hehe, I think you may be confused here. The objective is to piece out a theoretical build on a budget of $2000.

The above build appears to be your actual machine. (which is not bad for the price)

 

[minix69]

oh Sorry but thanks. I love this machine 210 fps residdent evil 5 settings wide open!

 

[agk47]

Processor: 1090 Black
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair R.O.G
RAM: 4x4GB Dual DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card: 2 x 5850 in crossfire mode
Hard Drive: 1TB Caviar Black Sata 6
Case: HAF922 Mid Tower
Power Supply: Corsair 750
DVD Burner: +/- Dual DVD Drive

 

[angel0fmars]

Assuming combos are allowed...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.467750
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor (Model: HDT55TFBGRBOX)
ASUS AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard (Model: M4A89GTD PRO/USB3)
OCZ Vertex Series 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (Model: OCZSSD2-1VTX60G)
OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (Model: OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.506358
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

HIS H597F2GDGC Radeon HD 5970 (Hemlock) 2GB 512 (256 x 2)-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Dual GPU Onboard CrossFire Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161335

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

LG 22X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH22NS40 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136180


1000W Gold PSU makes upgrades really easy and you won't have to switch out the PSU too many times. Plus the Cosmos S case looks really nice 😛

Final Price: $1966 after MIR

 

[jpishgar]

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