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"Nick the Greek" <nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote in message
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> http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
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> -Nick

This country is getting to PC, for gods sake! big wow not one black player
involved!!!! oh no lets cry. Other than who they named we have the choice of
Heskey, Collymore and Paul Parker - end of.

What next, maybe a rule to say That every club should have at least 3 black
players??

i'm not a racist! but i don't agree when this PC brigade goes OTT.

I'm sure there was a program not so long ago, Englands greatest black
players (title probably differed) if so then why the hell wasn't this
stopped, surely this is racist discrimination to any white person??
 
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:36:59 +0200, Nick the Greek
<nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote:

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>http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
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>-Nick

last weeks news.

and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
conscious act, just a stupid mistake.
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:55:21 GMT, Chris F <chris@asif.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:36:59 +0200, Nick the Greek
><nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote:
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>>http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
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>>-Nick
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>last weeks news.

Funny noone mentioned it then.

>
>and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
>conscious act, just a stupid mistake.

That's one interpretation.

-Nick
 
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Nick the Greek <nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote in
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>>last weeks news.
>
> Funny noone mentioned it then.

Yes they did, it was in every news report all day.

>>and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
>>conscious act, just a stupid mistake.
>
> That's one interpretation.

It's the general view. The FA have balls'ed up again, players like
Barnes and Campbell and going to be chuffed to find out they are on
the list after hearing all this, aren't they!

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>>>and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
>>>conscious act, just a stupid mistake.

I can't see it as a stupid mistake, Personally, the list of players were the
Best players ever to have played for England.

I don't give a f**k if they are all Black, Brown, Yellow or White.

The best players were picked by a prestigious panel of former players and to
put a few Token Black players in the list just to please some people is a
pretty poor state of affairs.

it should be the same in any sport, any job, or any situation in Life
If you are good enough to be on the list then it dos'nt matter what your
colour is.

Dazza
 
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>> That's one interpretation.
>
> It's the general view. The FA have balls'ed up again, players like
> Barnes and Campbell and going to be chuffed to find out they are on
> the list after hearing all this, aren't they!

Of the top of my head I can only think of one possible black player that
should have been included and thats John Barnes. Even he didnt exactly do
fantastic for England (great goal against Brazil though).

I've heard people mention the likes of Paul Ince, Ian Wright, Sol Campbell
and even Rio Ferdinand. I'm not racist but I personally dont think any of
those deserve to be on the list. What the hell has Rio Ferdinand done to get
on the list?

I was surprised when I saw Gerrard on the list, does seem to take many games
to become a 'legend' does it.
 
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On 2 Feb 2005 17:14:47 GMT, PivotalG <pivotalgubbins@nospamsent.com>
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>Nick the Greek <nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote in
>news:b72201hs2gu5g4in8isf5sqamqdki7kpk7@4ax.com:
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>>>last weeks news.
>>
>> Funny noone mentioned it then.
>
>Yes they did, it was in every news report all day.
>

I mean in here.

-Nick
 
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:31:26 -0000, "Dazza"
<darren@NOSPAMeidosnet.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
>>>>conscious act, just a stupid mistake.
>
>I can't see it as a stupid mistake, Personally, the list of players were the
>Best players ever to have played for England.
>

Yes, Gerrard or Pearce are/were better than John Barnes.

-Nick
 
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> and they werent excluded, there just werent any on it. it wasnt a
> conscious act, just a stupid mistake.

Although looking at it, there's not much of a case for many anyway
 
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Nick the Greek wrote:
> http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
>
> -Nick

Considering the list to pick from I dont think theres anything wrong with no
black players being included. I've never rated John Barnes as that fantastic
for England and as for Sol campbell,Rio,Ashley Cole et all, what have they
ever really done so far ? Maybe in 10-15 years a DVD like this will be
littered with black players but at least they'll be there on merit unlike
anyone in the new DVD who's only there because of skin colour and not
talent.

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:34:08 +0000 (UTC), "Gareth"
<gareth47@btinternet.com> wrote:

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>"Nick the Greek" <nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote in message
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>> http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
>>
>> -Nick
>
>This country is getting to PC, for gods sake! big wow not one black player
>involved!!!! oh no lets cry. Other than who they named we have the choice of
>Heskey, Collymore and Paul Parker - end of.
>
>What next, maybe a rule to say That every club should have at least 3 black
>players??
>
>i'm not a racist! but i don't agree when this PC brigade goes OTT.
>
>I'm sure there was a program not so long ago, Englands greatest black
>players (title probably differed) if so then why the hell wasn't this
>stopped, surely this is racist discrimination to any white person??
>
>
yup, it was on BBC Four iirc.

i remember thinking the same thing, imagine the furore if they'd made
"England's Greatest White Players"
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"Chris F" <chris@asif.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:34:08 +0000 (UTC), "Gareth"
> <gareth47@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>>"Nick the Greek" <nikko_NOSPAM_@in.gr> wrote in message
>>news:3ms101tsu4aq7dqljt0h2iagl1cql43htp@4ax.com...
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>>> http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=1570&tid=sports&catid=Sports%20News
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>
>>This country is getting to PC, for gods sake! big wow not one black player
>>involved!!!! oh no lets cry. Other than who they named we have the choice
>>of
>>Heskey, Collymore and Paul Parker - end of.
>>
>>What next, maybe a rule to say That every club should have at least 3
>>black
>>players??
>>
>>i'm not a racist! but i don't agree when this PC brigade goes OTT.
>>
>>I'm sure there was a program not so long ago, Englands greatest black
>>players (title probably differed) if so then why the hell wasn't this
>>stopped, surely this is racist discrimination to any white person??
>>
>>
> yup, it was on BBC Four iirc.
>
> i remember thinking the same thing, imagine the furore if they'd made
> "England's Greatest White Players"
> --

Yeah wouldnt that be ace !!! just to see the soddin reaction of the whining
PC brigade
 
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Nick the Greek proclaimed...

> So were Waddle and Gerrard.

EH??!!?

Waddle was inconsistent. Gerard is class. I believe England haven't lost
a game when Gerard is playing.

In my opinion Gerard is the best central midfielder in the country.

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Hamish proclaimed...

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4214617.stm
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> Cheers
>
> Hamish

Don't know if I've mentioned this but am I only none-racist to think
none of those black players should be included?

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Hamish wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4214617.stm

I doubt any of the black players mentioned can have any complaints, when
players like Geoff Hurst, Jimmy Greaves, Kevin Keegan, Tony Adams and Ray
Wilkins weren't in it either.

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