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More info?)
I guess that the HD isn't the problem. After I switched
the external power connector to a durable power socket
the system boots without any trouble. Before it there was
a connection to a multiple power socket and this was
switched of with an integrated button if the pc was not
in use. (Sorry I don't know the correct term) Moreover
the speakers and the monitor were connected to this power
socket too. (to save some energy). Is it possible that
the source of the problem is the power supply unit of the
computer case? And not the HD?
Thanks for your hints!
>-----Original Message-----
>There are a couple of things that may be going wrong
there. First off,
>if the BIOS doesn't even initialize properly (it should
work even
>without a hard drive connected), you may have a BIOS
going bad. My
>guess is going to be that the HD is going bad and the
BIOS is hanging
>while trying to access it. I have had this happen on a
couple of older
>SCSI disks that I hadn't used for a long (over a year)
period of time.
>I took quite a few reboots to get the disks spinning
again. Anything
>that goes wrong before Windows loads is going to be a
hardware problem
>though, so you may want to check things out.
>
>----
>Nathan McNulty
>
>
>anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>> Well, if I boot the system for the first time and it
>> doesn't detect the HD I actually cannot enter the
BIOS. If
>> i press DEL the message "Prepare to enter setup"
appears
>> but nothing happens. After the reset the HD is
detected and
>> theres no problem to enter the BIOS. I noticed
yersterday
>> that sometimes the PC detects the HD after a long time
1 up
>> to 2 min.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>SATA does not have jumpers. You can only have 1 SATA
>>
>> drive connected
>>
>>>hence Serial. The pins you may see are actually for
>>
>> factory testing.
>>
>>>It sounds like something still isn't set properly in
the
>>
>> BIOS. Also,
>>
>>>make sure that power is properly hooked up and the
plugs
>>
>> are all in
>>
>>>snug. Mine don't seem to clip in very strong, so it
could
>>
>> just be loose.
>>
>>> What does your BIOS say? That is the most important
>>
>> thing right now.
>>
>>> Can it find the drive when you enter the BIOS?
>>>
>>>----
>>>Nathan McNulty
>>>
>>>
>>>Bjoern Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>>I followed your instructions. But the problem is
still the
>>>>same. The hard disk isn't detected while the first
start.
>>>>Is it possible to set any jumper on the SATA HD?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>A couple of things. First, you want to use the SATA
Cable
>>>>
>>>>to connect the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>drive to the MB. Second, use the SATA power
connector
>>>>
>>>>instead of the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>4pin Molex connector. Third, check the settings in
your
>>>>
>>>>BIOS for SATA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>mode. There should be something in there about SATA
under
>>>>
>>>>the IDE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>configuration. Fourth, don't disable any of the IDE
>>>>
>>>>Locations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Usually, SATA 1 is IDE 3 or IDE 5 in the BIOS.
Finally,
>>>>
>>>>it should not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>matter where you put your DVD Burner, etc. Here is
what I
>>>>
>>>>would suggest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>though:
>>>>>
>>>>>SATA Port 1 for the HD
>>>>>Primary IDE Controller for DVD Burner (or DVD ROM) as
>>
>> Master.
>>
>>>>>Secondary IDE Controller for DVD ROM as Master.
>>>>>
>>>>>----
>>>>>Nathan McNulty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried out your hints and now i got another
problem.
>>>>>>The CPU fan runs correctly and i think the Ram too.
But if
>>>>>>I try to boot for the first time occurs the new
problem. It
>>>>>>really takes a long time to detect the both DVD-
drives (up
>>>>>>to 10 sec.) but the pc doesn't detect the HD.
there's the
>>>>>>"Detecting IDE drives..." message on screen and
nothing
>>>>>>happens.
>>>>>>I connected my dvd drives to IDE Channel 1 (master
and
>>>>>>slave) because I have a S-ATA HD I disabled IDE
Channel 0.
>>>>>>(There is no difference whether I disable the
channel in
>>>>>>the BIOS or not. it's still the same problem.) The
HD is
>>>>>>connected to the S-ATA Port 1 (Port 2 is not in
use). I
>>>>>>guess S-ATA Port 1 is IDE Channel 2 in BIOS because
after
>>>>>>the reboot the HD is detected at this position. May
this
>>>>>>affect the problems? shall I use IDE Channel 0
instead of
>>>>>>Channel 1 for my DVD devices?
>>>>>>I got another another idea. i used the IDE energy
>>>>>>connectors for the S-ATA HD. But i have a S-ATA
energy
>>>>>>connector too. (the flat connector) Is this also a
reason
>>>>>>for my problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for your help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>It's fun building your own PC, but problems like
this do
>>>>>>>appear from time to time, even if you are building
PC's
>>>>>>>professionally!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>things to check:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Does the same thing happen in safe mode?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. The Processor fan is not being restricted from
correct
>>>>>>>opperation
>>>>>>>2. The Ram is correctly seated (try reseating, or
>>>>>>>swapping order, or swapping for other ram -
Gigabyte
>>>>>>>boards are notorious for not working with some
makes
>>>>>>>of RAM!)
>>>>>>>3. The Bios is up-to-date as per the manufacturers
>>>>>>>website (I think you said Gigabyte so
>>>>>>>www.giga-byte.com)
>>>>>>>4. Install the WHQL drivers for your graphics
card, if
>>>>>>>still same problem, swap graphics card, or boot
from
>>>>>>>onboard graphics, if you have onboard!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>After all is said and done, Rebuild your machine,
and do
>>>>>>>a fresh install, do all the updates first and then
go for
>>>>>>>the latest updated drivers from the relevant
>>>>>>>manufacturers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Let us know how you get on. (Stick to the same
Thread,
>>>>>>>it's easier to track!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>Hello,0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i have a new win xp installation on a new self-
made pc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i switch of my pc for a longer time there is only
a black
>>>>>>>>screen instead of the win xp boot screen. in
addition to
>>>>>>>>that the ide drive and hard disk scan needs a
very long
>>>>>>>>time. (about 2 upto 5 sec) after that the display
shows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>default pci and interrupt tables. than the screen
turns
>>>>>>>>black and nothing happens. i have to push the
reset
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>button
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>und to press ctrl+alt+del for reboot. the 2nd try
or any
>>>>>>>>other restart from win xp runs without problems.
thre are
>>>>>>>>no problems if i turn on the pc after some
minutes as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what can i do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>my system:
>>>>>>>>AMD Athlon 64 2800+
>>>>>>>>GigaByte Mainboard (nForce 3 Chipset)
>>>>>>>>512 MB Infinion Ram DDR400
>>>>>>>>GigaByte graphic (GeForceFX 5200, 128 mb ram)
>>>>>>>>120 GB S-ATA HD
>>>>>>>>LG DVD writer
>>>>>>>>WinXP Home SP 1a
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>.
>
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