Bootable CDROM for BIOS update?

[ceebee]

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"Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in
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> Wacko.


"Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in
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> When you can't cut it technically then attack the poster...they always
> ultimately expose themselves.

I retract my words about you not being self-critical.

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and I like less than half of you
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"Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in
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> Only a few zealots are trying to create somekind of dogma for the
> masses and are purveying this nonsense about "don't fix it if it ain't
> busted".

Good. Let all your frustrations out. I hope you feel better now.

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half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

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Barry Watzman wrote:

> Well, keep this in mind:
>
> In general, the CD will only run MS-DOS, not Windows.
>
> More to the point, because of the above, if the hard drive is NTFS,
> the bootable CD-ROM won't even be able see/access the hard drive -- AT
> ALL.
>
> There's nothing wrong with having the CD, and it's a fine way to
> reflash a BIOS, as far as that goes. But understand the limitations
> (one of which is you won't be able to save the old BIOS on the CD).
>
> Microsoft's "recovery console" is essentially a 7 megabyte version of
> MS-DOS that has NTFS support (read and write, providing that no
> permissions are restricted and no encryption is set). However, I
> don't know how to get that onto a bootable CD, although I'm sure that
> it is possible.
>
>
> povmec wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to create a bootable CDROM for various purpose, like
>> updating the BIOS using AFUDOS, or to run a memory test, or any other
>> basic fonctions to be run before the OS loads? If yes, I would like
>> to know where to go to get the steps.
>>
>> Thanks, Ray.
>>
It is possible to have a Boot CD which will boot into NTFS file system.
I have one and it works fine

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Ron, have you and your fellow advocates not realised that there is a logical
inconsistency in your position? You have argued that superficially unnecessary
BIOS updates are in fact absolutely essential because more is being fixed than
the published fix-list indicates, yet you also seem to have absolute faith that
the update will actually be an improvement. Even if the flash is successful, and
really does fix some bug you never even knew you had, what's to guarantee that
it won't also introduce some very real problem with whatever other changes come
along with it? If you truly believe that BIOSes are so buggy that they need
regular upgrading, how can you possibly have such optimistic faith in the newer
versions produced by the exact same people? (Your argument reminds me somewhat
of Microsoft's widely-discredited "marketing" strategy of praising their latest
version of Windows to the skies then later dissing it as useless and awful as
soon as the next version comes along...)

 

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"R. J. Sutherland" <rj.sutherland.removethis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ron, have you and your fellow advocates not realised that there is a
logical
> inconsistency in your position?

The logical inconsistency is entirely with you.

> You have argued that superficially unnecessary

Clueless.

> BIOS updates are in fact absolutely essential because more is being fixed
than
> the published fix-list indicates, yet you also seem to have absolute faith
that
> the update will actually be an improvement.

Jibber. The average BIOS flash will be an improvement.

> Even if the flash is successful, and
> really does fix some bug you never even knew you had, what's to guarantee
that
> it won't also introduce some very real problem with whatever other changes
come
> along with it?

It might but then the average BIOS flash is an improvement. Just like any
given program update or SP might cause a new problem but one always does
them anyway and then deals with any problems caused. You are sounding more
and more like somekind of neanderthal zealot.

> If you truly believe that BIOSes are so buggy that they need
> regular upgrading, how can you possibly have such optimistic faith in the
newer
> versions produced by the exact same people? (Your argument reminds me
somewhat
> of Microsoft's widely-discredited "marketing" strategy of praising their
latest
> version of Windows to the skies then later dissing it as useless and awful
as
> soon as the next version comes along...)

Finally full frontal exposure...they just can't help em selves.

 

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Well, I'm truly disappointed in you, Ron. Although I was certainly sceptical
about your claim, I'm not part of any International Conspiracy to Suppress
Updating of BIOSes, and I was genuinely curious to see if you could sustain your
argument. This was my first posting on this subject, but I seem to have touched
a raw nerve. I believe I was fair in summarising your position, and I deserved
better. I'm willing to believe that "silent" bug fixes happen, especially if I'm
told so by people who are more "in the know" than me, but real-life experience
also dictates that changes can also introduce problems that didn't exist before.
I simply observed from the sidelines that you seemed to be trying "to have your
cake and eat it too", since you are claiming that regular BIOS updates are a
must (to fix bugs, presumably, rather than as a weird form of entertainment) and
yet you seem to have this naive belief that the very people who produced all
these secret bugs in the first place can be trusted not to introduce other
(equally secret) ones in their place. Instead of addressing this issue, you just
produced an abusive emotive rant ("clueless", "jibber", etc.) that certainly
didn't win this convert, and may possibly have lost it for others too. Such a
shame.

>
>Finally full frontal exposure...
>

Are you (ahem) quite all right...?

 

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"R. J. Sutherland" <rj.sutherland.removethis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well, I'm truly disappointed in you, Ron. Although I was certainly
sceptical
> about your claim, I'm not part of any International Conspiracy to Suppress
> Updating of BIOSes, and I was genuinely curious to see if you could
sustain your
> argument.

I did just that robustly.

> This was my first posting on this subject, but I seem to have touched
> a raw nerve. I believe I was fair in summarising your position, and I
deserved
> better. I'm willing to believe that "silent" bug fixes happen, especially
if I'm
> told so by people who are more "in the know" than me, but real-life
experience
> also dictates that changes can also introduce problems that didn't exist
before.
> I simply observed from the sidelines that you seemed to be trying "to have
your
> cake and eat it too", since you are claiming that regular BIOS updates are
a
> must (to fix bugs, presumably, rather than as a weird form of
entertainment) and
> yet you seem to have this naive belief that the very people who produced
all
> these secret bugs in the first place can be trusted not to introduce other
> (equally secret) ones in their place.

Hey let's whisper about the collapse of WTC7 too.

> Instead of addressing this issue, you just
> produced an abusive emotive rant ("clueless", "jibber", etc.) that
certainly
> didn't win this convert, and may possibly have lost it for others too.
Such a
> shame.

Better luck next time.

> >Finally full frontal exposure...
> >
>
> Are you (ahem) quite all right...?

I'll leave that to the folks reading the thread to decide for themselves.

 

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FFS, please snip. You don't need to quote reams of text just to add a
few words' reply.

Cheers,

Guy

"If you want to find out what is wrong
with democracy, spend five minutes with
the average voter." - Winston Churchill

 

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:28:06 GMT, R. J. Sutherland
<rj.sutherland.removethis@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>Well, I'm truly disappointed in you, Ron. Although I was certainly sceptical
>about your claim, I'm not part of any International Conspiracy to Suppress
>Updating of BIOSes, and I was genuinely curious to see if you could sustain your
>argument. This was my first posting on this subject, but I seem to have touched
>a raw nerve. I believe I was fair in summarising your position, and I deserved
>better. I'm willing to believe that "silent" bug fixes happen, especially if I'm
>told so by people who are more "in the know" than me, but real-life experience
>also dictates that changes can also introduce problems that didn't exist before.
>I simply observed from the sidelines that you seemed to be trying "to have your
>cake and eat it too", since you are claiming that regular BIOS updates are a
>must (to fix bugs, presumably, rather than as a weird form of entertainment) and
>yet you seem to have this naive belief that the very people who produced all
>these secret bugs in the first place can be trusted not to introduce other
>(equally secret) ones in their place. Instead of addressing this issue, you just
>produced an abusive emotive rant ("clueless", "jibber", etc.) that certainly
>didn't win this convert, and may possibly have lost it for others too. Such a
>shame.
>
>>
>>Finally full frontal exposure...
>>
>
>Are you (ahem) quite all right...?
>


Don't worry about Ronnie Retard he just seems to have found a new home
here on a.c.p.m.asus he used to infest the comp
sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage group but got laughed out of there over a
year ago due to his insanity over the IBM Deathstar fiasco. I only
realised it was the same guy after reading some of his rantings other
people were quoting in their posts he's been in the bozo bin for years
here.


Regards

Andy Lee


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A well traveled troll shows up.

"Andy Lee" <arl@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

 

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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:19:08 GMT, "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net>
wrote:

>A well traveled troll shows up.

Writing autobiographically, of course.


>