Question Bottleneck?

FluffyButtonsXD

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So i played Atomic Heart at 4k 144hz all settings were maxed. I saw my Gpu was doing most of the load 90-100% usage and cpu was doing 10-25% usage…
I have an i9-10850k and a rx 9070 xt…plenty of power as well, 1200w corsair psu. I’m worried that i am Gpu bottlenecking…and i may need to buy a new cpu. Are those utilizations okay or is it bad? Or do i need a 1440p monitor? I feel i made the bad call on getting a 9070 xt. As expensive as things are, nvidia gpus are out of my budget… cpus and all other components are expensive as well.. idk if im overthinking this.
 
You meet or exceed the recommended system requirements to run the game;
Have you seen if your CPU usage changes if you reduce the resolution for the game?

When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

I feel i made the bad call on getting a 9070 xt.
What GPU were you on prior? Did you run DDU to remove all GPU drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, to manually install the latest GPU driver sourced from AMD's support site in an elevated command?
 
Averages can be misleading.
Your cpu has 20 threads, just one could be limiting your performance, making up most of your 10-25% usage.

Normally, gaming at 4k resolution the gpu is the limiter.

How do your perceive your gaming performance to be?
Do you want better?
Do you have a budget.

To help clarify your needs run this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.
 
You meet or exceed the recommended system requirements to run the game;
Have you seen if your CPU usage changes if you reduce the resolution for the game?

When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

I feel i made the bad call on getting a 9070 xt.
What GPU were you on prior? Did you run DDU to remove all GPU drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, to manually install the latest GPU driver sourced from AMD's support site in an elevated command?
Sorry about that
Cpu: i9-10850k
Cpu Cooler: Lian Li Galahad 360 aio
Motherboard: MSI Z490 gaming plus
Ram: 32GB 3200Mhz gskill ddr4
SSD:Samsung Evo 980 1Tb NVME
GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ RX 9070 XT 16GB
PSU: Corsair HX Series HX1200 fully modular
Chassis: Corsair 5000D Airflow mid-tower
OS: Windows 11 Pro
Monitor: Acer Predator XB3 - 31.5 3840x2160 144hz ips panel.
Psu was bought on Nov 11th 2022 so it is 2years and 4 months old.
Bios version is: E7C75IMS.AE0

Prior to the 9070 xt i have now, i had a MSI RTX 3090 Ti 24gb suprim. My 3090 TI had issues with display a lot, i bought the 9070 xt as it was sort of equivalent to the 3090 ti. Nvidia gpus are crazy priced right now so i went with AMD. I used the latest DDU uninstaller, i selected the “Clean and Shutdown” option when switching over Gpus in safe mode. For extra measures i uninstalled all games and steam. To be safe than sorry, and reinstalled everything.
 
Averages can be misleading.
Your cpu has 20 threads, just one could be limiting your performance, making up most of your 10-25% usage.

Normally, gaming at 4k resolution the gpu is the limiter.

How do your perceive your gaming performance to be?
Do you want better?
Do you have a budget.

To help clarify your needs run this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.
Is that a bad thing? I was using amd adrenaline and ofc amds software favors amd, im not able to see temps and each core/thread. Just utilization, i dont have msi afterburner bcz it mess with adrenalin. I mean im still getting good frames in certain scenes and scenarios but i do feel like theres stutters but no frame loss. Just lower resolution? What about render resolution? I will try Hogwarts Legacy for testing
 
Averages can be misleading.
Your cpu has 20 threads, just one could be limiting your performance, making up most of your 10-25% usage.

Normally, gaming at 4k resolution the gpu is the limiter.

How do your perceive your gaming performance to be?
Do you want better?
Do you have a budget.

To help clarify your needs run this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.
So Hogwarts Legacy at 3840x2160
Render resolution is 2560x1440 67%
All settings low and amd fsr 2 quality is on. Id say 120-144 fps.
Everything Ultra, same render and fsr i get 85 to 115 fps. I do gain fps when lowering settings. My gpu usage right now is between 80-90% and cpu is actually up around 35-45% usage
 
You will always be bottlenecked by something, and at native 4k it will most likely (and should) be your GPU, unless you have a very week CPU.

If you get 80-90% GPU utilization when you use FSR (so not native 4k), it means that you might be moderately CPU bottlenecked (ideally, you want your GPU to run at 98-99% to get the max performance from it).

CPU utilization is not relevant since games never use all the cores, so you never get 100% even when you are CPU bottlenecked. But if your GPU usage is low (<90%) it means that it's waiting for something, most likely the CPU.

Try to disable FSR to run at native 4k and you should see your GPU usage going very close to 100%. Also make sure that frame generation is disabled when you do tests like these.
 

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