Question Brand new RTX 3080 ti with very high temps - is this normal?

[lifelover90]

So I got a new computer with an MSI RTX 3080 ti and I am worried about the temperatures the GPU reaches under heavy load (i.e. Red Dead Redemption 2 on ultra settings). With a window open and a room temperature of 25 °C, the GPU reaches 84 °C with a hot spot of 89-91 °C according to GPU-Z. Is this normal or I should be worried?
Note: The GPU is with its stock cooler. Obviously but... still.

Oh, and for the people who are interested in the case I'm using - Be quiet! PURE BASE 500DX. The computer has enough space to breathe, as well.

 

[Phaaze88]

All three parameters are safe.
Hot spot and memory are good... gpu core is slightly toasty(82C and below would be preferred).

 

[lifelover90]

All three parameters are safe.
Hot spot and memory are good... gpu core is slightly toasty(82C and below would be preferred).

Aside from getting watercooling from the GPU, is there anything else to lower the temps?

 

[COLGeek]

What is your idle temp? Under load, these aren't awful temps.

What is the make/model of your PSU?

 

[DavidM012]

A search of your concern yielded

https://hiveon.com/forum/t/allowable-temperature-of-msi-rtx-3080-3080-ti-gddr6x-chip/77611

This. So my assessment based on that is that your gpu temperature is about where it's supposed to be 90c or below.

You could spend money on methods to improve the thermal interface between the heatsink and gpu but it's likely not worth the trouble and complication of disassembly and reassembly particularly if it voids your warranty.

So otherwise you can add a ridiculous amount of optional fans and maybe find a way to place another fan to huff directly into the gpu air intake fan though there might not be anywhere to attach one.

It looks like you have one front intake fan mount and one rear exhaust fan mount with your case. So check that the front intake is drawing air in and the rear exhaust is expelling it.

 

[lifelover90]

These are not idle temps - they've been recorded as I was playing Red Dead Redemption on ultra settings. The PSU is Corsair HX Series HX1000 80Plus Platinum Modular.

 

[SkyNetRising]

With a window open and a room temperature of 25 °C, the GPU reaches 84 °C with a hot spot of 89-91 °C according to GPU-Z. Is this normal or I should be worried?

Which model MSI RTX 3080 ti ? MSI has 6 different models.

How many fans installed in the case?
Can you show a photo of your system with side panel removed?

 

[Phaaze88]

Aside from getting watercooling from the GPU, is there anything else to lower the temps?

You improve case airflow, because it sounds like it's a little weak, or there's too much top flow.

[What SkyNetRising posted.]

 

[lifelover90]

Which model MSI RTX 3080 ti ? MSI has 6 different models.

How many fans installed in the case?
Can you show a photo of your system with side panel removed?

I don't know if it's visible enough but there is the water cooling block for the CPU mounted on the front of the case, there are 2 fans on the top and that big one on the back.

 

[DavidM012]

Oh well it looks right your intake is from the rear and your exhaust is through the front because the aio fans are exhausting through the front.

So you could add an optional fan at the front panel and exhaust from the front. If you don't have one already.

Other than that you could add a fan and sit it on top of your psu to simply huff on the gpu laterally. Unless it's a fairly strong fan it may not have much effect. Like maybe 1 or 2c.

So that would be an optional 'side intake'.

 

[Phaaze88]

I don't know if it's visible enough but there is the water cooling block for the CPU mounted on the front of the case, there are 2 fans on the top and that big one on the back.

Ok. See all 6 of those fans?
You gotta flip 'em all; they're essentially setup backwards.

 

[DavidM012]

Oh I didn't see the two top fans. Yes well you could add a optional front fan as an intake, flip the top fans to exhaust rather than intake, and flip the aio fans to intake from the front and flip the rear fan to exhaust from the rear rather than intake.

And add an optional side fan to huff directly on the GPU, it will do something even though you can't mod the glass side panel of your case.

 

[lifelover90]

Well, I'm not a hardware-savvy guy, which is why I had a company assemble this PC. It will be an interesting reaction from them when I told them that they didn't place the cooling properly.

 

[DavidM012]

I wouldn't really bother talking to them and just flip the fans. And add another one for a front intake. After all some of the 120mm fans are another $5 or $10 each and you can spend a while searching for quiet fans to improve on it.

I would never buy a case with a glass side panel, they aren't on my fave list. With a metal side panel you could at least cut out a side mount for another optional fan to huff directly on the GPU which would have an effect on the gpu temp.

However it does look like you could make some modest progress by flipping the fans.

 

[Phaaze88]

Aye. Flipping the fans is something you can do yourself.
That the system integrator made such a simple mistake is rather telling...

 

[DavidM012]

Or well perhaps simpler, just flip the two top fans since they are all huffing the same direction anyway because warm air rises if you try to intake from the top it's pulling the warm air down. So you want to exhaust from the top too. That will make some difference and it's simpler than reversing all the fans.

So it's rear intake front exhaust. I'm not sure it matters too much unless the gpu exhausts to the rear 'cos then you'd be pulling in some of the warm gpu exhaust and circulating it around the case.

The main thing to do is make sure none of the fans are opposing each other and basically all huffing in the same direction.

 

[Phaaze88]

Rear intake fan ends up T-boning the pull from top exhaust fans. It only really benefits top mounted radiators.
That's why OP should flip all 6 fans.

 

[DavidM012]

Oh I see. Yes just pulling in air from the rear would go straight thru the top exhaust. However at least it would be drawing some warm air upwards and not circulating the gpu exhaust thru the case.

 

[DavidM012]

oh I know how about a floor intake to assist in pushing air upwards also?

 

[DSzymborski]

Yup, flip all six.

I'm more surprised when a system integrator gets everything right unless it's one of the real boutique ones like Falcon NW. Cyberpower/Ibuypower and the like, it's always something. If this is all they screwed up on, consider yourself lucky.

 

[HeartOfAdel]

This is not a good temperature long term. The best way to reduce temps is to undervolt your gpu through msi afternurner. You can significantly increase its lifespan and even performance with undervolting.

 

[DavidM012]

Or if too noob significantly malfunction your card if undervolting too low so not the way to go because it's changing your reality too much.

Rearranging the fans will have some effect for the time being one would hope.

 

[Phaaze88]

oh I know how about a floor intake to assist in pushing air upwards also?

There's a lot of things in the way that keep it from being effective in most cases. The psu shroud(even if perforated), the psu itself, psu cables, storage cage(if present), air filter, the amount of space between the floor of the case and surface the case is sitting on...
Now, if it were designed like Silverstone's Raven or CM's SL600M... bottom intake is very viable with those - Lian Li's O11s work too if placed on 2x4s or something similar.

 

[DavidM012]

Or just buy a metal case and do some modding dunno about simply a metal side panel of suitable dimensions instead of replace case in order to add a side intake.

But so far the OP could simply switch the fans and modestly improve the situation. Adding another front intake is another option and slight improvement with the PURE BASE 500DX case.

The time for talking is over and the time for doing is nigh.

Try flip fans and see if temps drop.

 

[COLGeek]

Just to re-cap.

In most rigs, front, side, and bottom fans are intake (suck cool air into case).

Rear and top fans are exhaust (suck hot air out of case).