Question BSOD/crashes while idle and when booting.

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perez jens

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Hey,

My friend has some serious problems with her PC that I build.
She is experiencing crashes and BSOD's while idle and when booting up sometimes.
all drivers are up to date, fresh windows 10 install.. only BIOS isnt up to date.
I tried and researched some things myself but its still occuring.
I put the CPU Voltage in offset mode + 0.1 cause reddit said the 5900x has some issues shutting down while idling.

these are some DMP files and event logs:
https://imgur.com/a/43CS2WG
View: https://imgur.com/a/43CS2WG

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1katt5QxkQDvi45nsYtROHxNr0FCC-fcv/view?usp=drive_link

and these are the specs:
A520M-A-PRO
Ryzen 9 5900x
7700 XT
G.Skill f4-2400c 15-8GNT

really hope someone can help me out.. im out of ideas..
i am off for tonight but if u need more info i will get that.
 
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A520M-A-PRO
Ryzen 9 5900x
Your friend has the wrong board for that processor.

You also forgot to mention the make an model of the PSU and it's age. To add;
G.Skill f4-2400c 15-8GNT
I have a feeling that you upgraded the processor recently and this system, your friend has, was built without much thought or with too much constraint on making it as cheap as possible since Ryzen platforms benefit from having DDR4-3600MHz rams.
 
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Lutfij said:
A520M-A-PRO
Ryzen 9 5900x
Your friend has the wrong board for that processor.

You also forgot to mention the make an model of the PSU and it's age. To add;
G.Skill f4-2400c 15-8GNT
I have a feeling that you upgraded the processor recently and this system, your friend has, was built without much thought or with too much constraint on making it as cheap as possible since Ryzen platforms benefit from having DDR-3600MHz rams.
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how? the board is AM4?..
yes she wanted it as cheaply as possible, but upgrading that later.. i suggested an AM5 build but she didnt want that... also the PSU is 750W Cooler master something i think. it has some age but never had problems with that before.
 
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I forgot to add, I won't provide my email credentials to gain access to the .dmp files, sorry.

As for your question, the board lacks heatsinks on it's VRM as well as having a lackluster VRM design on it which would be necessary for a high end Ryzen 9 processor's power draw.
 
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Lutfij said:
I forgot to add, I won't provide my email credentials to gain access to the .dmp files, sorry.

As for your question, the board lacks heatsinks on it's VRM as well as having a lackluster VRM design on it which would be necessary for a high end Ryzen 9 processor's power draw.
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oh ok, i totally understand that. is there another way i can get those .dmp files uploaded?
and u think that could be the issue? or are there others?
 
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Lutfij said:
I forgot to add, I won't provide my email credentials to gain access to the .dmp files, sorry.

As for your question, the board lacks heatsinks on it's VRM as well as having a lackluster VRM design on it which would be necessary for a high end Ryzen 9 processor's power draw.
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this is one
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Lutfij said:
I forgot to add, I won't provide my email credentials to gain access to the .dmp files, sorry.

As for your question, the board lacks heatsinks on it's VRM as well as having a lackluster VRM design on it which would be necessary for a high end Ryzen 9 processor's power draw.
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Hey,
a couple days ago i made a thread about a crashing PC.
someone replied and said the board VRM was not good enough, and i believe that, but maybe there are other issues as wel.
I also send some .DMP files but no reply yet.. and I think these are pretty important.
Google Drive was not an option to send these, but what are other options?

i'll hope someone will take a couple minutes to look at those .DMP files if there is a safe/trusted way to post them.
Thanks
 
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Hey,

I have build a PC for my friend but it is crashing frequently.
i have put the CPU voltage in offset mode +0.1 to no avail..
it has something to do with the CPU and PSU i think and someone said its a bad board for the CPU cause of lackluster VRM design. wich i will fix
(i have made a thread over a week ago, but its dead.. and i REALLY need help with this)
and i know you normally dont make other posts because of spaghetti brains and things.. but i feel this is the only way to get help.
I will be upgrading her mobo, PSU and memory.. but i dont wanna make any mistakes anymore so if someone can help me out picking parts.
there's also some .DMP files that need some attention and scary, cause she might be targeted by a hacker? idk..
https://file.io/8SOtKiDI3s9p

her (current) specs are:
A520M-A-PRO
Ryzen 9 5900x
7700 XT
G.Skill f4-2400c 15-8GNT
CoolerMaster 750W (8-10 years old)

i dont wanna be annoying, but please help me.

thanks and appreciate any help.. A LOT!
 
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Yeah, you for real need to consider a higher quality motherboard for a Ryzen 9. I recently did a 5800X with an A520 because of that good sale they did ($120). In addition to that I went with a tower cooler and the addition of several case fans positioned to try and keep the VRM a good flow of cool air.

Also, badly needs a newer power supply. 8-10 years is a stretch even for a super high quality unit.
 
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punkncat said:
Yeah, you for real need to consider a higher quality motherboard for a Ryzen 9. I recently did a 5800X with an A520 because of that good sale they did ($120). In addition to that I went with a tower cooler and the addition of several case fans positioned to try and keep the VRM a good flow of cool air.

Also, badly needs a newer power supply. 8-10 years is a stretch even for a super high quality unit.
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i will for sure replace that.
have u taken a look at the .DMP files yet?
and what do you suggest for PSU and board?
 
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