BSOD on Automatic Windows Update

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The Problem

A few months ago, my (Dell Pre-built) Win 10 PC was prompted to automatically install a Windows update. At this time, I had updates set to manually install.

However, after that update, my PC began to update, got to about 25% and then segued straight into one of those newfangled Win 10 BSOD error. The stop code: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. I rebooted. Then again with the error. On the third attempt, Windows had the good sense to revert.

I've been building and/or using PC's most of my life and this was actually new. I'd never had a standard Windows Update on a pre-built machine immediately tank.

I wish I'd kept notes on that original error. I looked online, found a handful of people who had the same issue, and then learned that I could just temporarily tell Windows to not update the particular package. I used the Windows 10 Update Assistant.

Problem solved. Until this morning. I woke to find that Windows was just about ready to reboot and install the update. Without thinking (and because it'd been so long), I just allowed the update to happen. But then our pal BSOD returned. Again, on the third attempt it reverted.

I ended up going through that yet again when I wasn't able to disable the Windows Update process (stop it from Autostarting and Disable if possible). But then, after that I now have an out-of-date-but-actually-usable machine.

Data I've Collected So Far

I searched the web for the least obviously spyware looking advice I could find and avoided any dumb site that told me I need to download some custom tool. I found a link to this page and followed some of the advice.

First, I ran SFC Scanner (sfc/scannow at command prompt) and it got the whole way through the scan. In the end, I received the only solid bit of data that alludes to a direct problem:

Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them. Details are included in the CBS.Log windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example: C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. Note that logging is currently not supported in offline servicing scenarios.

This log-file is included with this post. At least there's something to point at, right? I don't know how to read those things, but I'm pretty sure the phrase "Primitive installers committed for repair" shouldn't appear like a million times in that logfile.

I continued by running the Windows Memory Diagnostic and, after a reboot and running the thing and then returning me to Windows, it told me there were no problems.

Next I started Windows Defender and ran a full scan. After a marathon three hours of that, I got the all clear. No problems found.

After that, I skipped other things on that URL above. Defragging the registry is not the problem. That said, I sure don't know what the problem is outside the barest outlines.

Here's what I linked to:
CBS Log on 2018-03-10.log - Logfile from my SFC Scanner run
Computer Dump Info on 2018-03-10.zip - A bunch of other standard msconfig logs.

Any help would be much appreciated. For now, I'm just remaining vigilant and keeping Windows Update disabled. But that is clearly not a long-term strategy. Especially since, every day since, it keeps happening, no matter how much I manually stop it. Eventually, a day later, it'll just pop right back on and the cycle begins again.

This bites.
 
Solution
I just noticed something: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393)

You way behind, you are on version 1607 of Win 10, current version is 1709. I know there are problems updating it to 1709 so you would be best doing a fresh install - once backing up everything you don't want to lose.

download the Windows 10 media creation tool and use it to make a win 10 installer on USB

once backups complete,
change boot order in BIOS so USB is first, hdd second
boot from installer
follow this guide: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html

when you reach the screen asking for licence, click "I don't have a key" and win 10 will continue to install and reactivate once finished

On the screen where you choose...
This should fix SFC

right click start button
choose powershell (admin)
Copy/paste this command into window:
Repair-WindowsImage -Online -RestoreHealth and press enter
SFC fixes system files, DISM cleans image files, so re run SFC after this command and restart PC

Image files are the source files SFC uses to clean PC so running dism should help

Can you follow option one here
and then do this step below: Small memory dumps - Have Windows Create a Small Memory Dump (Minidump) on BSOD

that creates a file in c windows/minidump after the next BSOD
copy that file to documents
upload the copy from documents to a cloud server and share the link here and I will ask someone to convert dumps so they easier to read.

Problem likely a driver, just need to look at the right dump files :)
 
I just noticed something: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393)

You way behind, you are on version 1607 of Win 10, current version is 1709. I know there are problems updating it to 1709 so you would be best doing a fresh install - once backing up everything you don't want to lose.

download the Windows 10 media creation tool and use it to make a win 10 installer on USB

once backups complete,
change boot order in BIOS so USB is first, hdd second
boot from installer
follow this guide: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html

when you reach the screen asking for licence, click "I don't have a key" and win 10 will continue to install and reactivate once finished

On the screen where you choose where to install win 10, if it gives you an error about GPT drives, delete all the partitions on the hdd and press next. If it still gives error, cancel out of the installer and restart PC and start installer again, it will accept next on that screen this time (some PC just need a restart here)

that should remove the BSOD and might fix a few other things along way.

Your link saves me linking this page then (too late): http://www.dell.com/support/home/au/en/aubsd1/product-support/product/xps-8900-desktop/drivers
 
Solution
Yikes. Well yeah, that's an answer, but I consider that to be the nuclear option.

This is a relatively new PC and I have not been negligent about updates excepting when this problem first materialized. Nuking Windows is the last resort. I have no interest in that if it can be avoided. If it can't, that's fine. But I've got other avenues first. Thanks!
 
OK. I just thought I offer easy alternative (not painless but fastest)

What update number is it? does it still show in update history? Curious what it updates. Can you click its link and post the link to web site it shows?

I assume its not a version update? it doesn't restart PC a few times during install?

Its likely a driver that is causing this, dump files might at elast show us what one.

I will help still. version makes running a longer version of dism improbable as you need ISO of current build to run that.
 
After waiting for hours for the big-update that was previously not able to download... I had another agonizing bsod sequence.

So I'm reinstalling Windows after I do some careful backing up. I marked the right answer above, which is basically: reinstall. I hate it when that's the answer. Thanks for your help, Colif!