budget 3D modeling CPU help.

[TheBunk]

Looking for a 3D modeling build for around $1000-1200, all in. I'm new to building/component picking, but I've done a bit of research and I realize that for a modeling pc, CPU is king...and that I'm totally confused. So I've come to you good people to ask for help, and try to get the biggest bang for my buck. Most of my time is spent modeling on Rhino, so I figure that single core processing is most important and rendering would be the second priority. I found the FX-8350 is probably the most performance I could get to keep my budget, but I was thinking of splurging on a Xeon E3-1230V2. I would get substantially better single core performance, and with an added benefit of ECC, but would lose rendering speeds and would have to recalculate my budget for GPU and the rest. Basically, I want to figure out whether or not it's worth spending the money on a Xenon with a budget build, when I can possibly better spend my money elsewhere. Please help a brother out! Cheers!

 

[Bonecrushrr]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2EdKn

That's right on your max budget

No monitor or peripherals included. Not sure if you needed them.

Here is a build far cheaper with similar performance. Even room now for monitor if needed.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($243.08 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($192.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($137.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1050.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-22 20:20 EST-0500)

You do realize you suggested a socket 1155 cpu and an 1150 motherboard right?

 

[vmN]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2EdKn

That's right on your max budget

No monitor or peripherals included. Not sure if you needed them.

Here is a build far cheaper with similar performance. Even room now for monitor if needed.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($243.08 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($192.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($137.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1050.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-22 20:20 EST-0500)

You do realize you suggested a socket 1155 cpu and an 1150 motherboard right?

I would also switch the seagate to WD.
Western digital > seagate.
Might get some higher frequency ram because CAS latency isn't a factor in 3d modeling.

 

[logainofhades]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2EdKn

That's right on your max budget

No monitor or peripherals included. Not sure if you needed them.

Here is a build far cheaper with similar performance. Even room now for monitor if needed.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($243.08 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($192.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($137.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1050.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-22 20:20 EST-0500)

You do realize you suggested a socket 1155 cpu and an 1150 motherboard right?

Umm, no I didn't. The 1230 v3 is 1150 Haswell. The v2 is 1155 Ivy.

 

[logainofhades]

Any particular reason why you went with the Xeon for this build? I ask because I was considering throwing a Xeon into the build, but thought that it would be a waste of money to have an entry level Xeon, when I could spend the money on 8 cores and higher clock speed.

Intel does more per clock than AMD. AMD is good for a budget rig, but Intel is still faster.

 

[Bonecrushrr]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2EdKn

That's right on your max budget

No monitor or peripherals included. Not sure if you needed them.

Here is a build far cheaper with similar performance. Even room now for monitor if needed.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($243.08 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($192.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($137.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1050.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-22 20:20 EST-0500)

You do realize you suggested a socket 1155 cpu and an 1150 motherboard right?

Umm, no I didn't. The 1230 v3 is 1150 Haswell. The v2 is 1155 Ivy.

OOps, sorry my mistake

 

[killakallies]

In order to keep with your budget don't feel like your losing much by going with the 8320. 8 cores will outpace 4 cores w/ hyper threading in most cases and you should not feel like your going to be losing much performance by going with the AMD.

See benchmarks below:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/33

 

[TheBunk]

In order to keep with your budget don't feel like your losing much by going with the 8320. 8 cores will outpace 4 cores w/ hyper threading in most cases and you should not feel like your going to be losing much performance by going with the AMD.

See benchmarks below:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/33

Hmm, the AMD would be a really sweet deal for a good budget gaming rig, but taking a look at the benchmarks, the only thing the 8320 can offer over a comparable Intel is rendering speed. However, rendering isn't as big a deal as view manipulation in 3d modeling. Single core operations are where it's at, and it just doesn't look like AMD can compete.

 

[TheBunk]

Any particular reason why you went with the Xeon for this build? I ask because I was considering throwing a Xeon into the build, but thought that it would be a waste of money to have an entry level Xeon, when I could spend the money on 8 cores and higher clock speed.

Intel does more per clock than AMD. AMD is good for a budget rig, but Intel is still faster.

The more I think about it, Xeon seems like the right choice, especially if I upgrade to a workstation gpu later on. Thanks a lot for the help!!