Not really into encoding I'm just looking for what wil still be able to sqeeze out more 3 years from now, possibly oc a few years from now ect. I did have psu it was a ombo with the 300 antec case still debating it though,it's tough I really wanted to keep everything in one shop but people send good deals at other places, I'm trying to calculate the shipping and such to se if it's all worth it. I think I'll be dumping aot more on a screen then wanted but I really want the best affordable stuff to really last.. ie getting alot of stuff with longer warranties ect. Question on th quads, let say I pick up this crysis I hear alot about does that totally cuase my possible build to fall behind? I mean I know quads are great for apps that use the dif cpus but if I play a game for example crysis, (no ideal what it is have yet to look it up just keep reading "I can almost max eveything out on crysis with this card..ect", will it only look at my system as being a 2.3 or 2.4?
Also the reaons I'm honestly asking for so much help is it's hard to do reserch on items that you can't bookmark becuase your using a temp os ..DSL linux..for those who don't know it runs off cd-rom in memory, so you can't save anything since my hard drive was toasted with my psu. I use to really be an amd guy lunyone and I'm actually still pushing a xp 1200 or 2100 I forget. But I get from freinds who are still very active in computer tech say intel has pulled away big time from amd, and intelis the only way to go for clocking.
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Well there is nothing wrong in asking questions that your not sure about. I was there too, so this isn't anything knew to me. The q6600 will be the best bang for the buck right now. The only reason I mentioned the AMD setup is that it will save you some $ now. The Intel builds are generally more expensive, because of the mobo's tend to be a bit more. There are trade-offs with either build (Intel/AMD). AMD has been behind since the C2D's came out about 2 years ago. AMD is playing catch-up, so they have dropped their prices to be competetive. This doesn't mean that their CPU's are bad, just not quite there yet. I'd say they are generally about 90-95% there, depending on what your running. AMD's are generally better at certain benchmarks, but the Intel's do well also on those same benchmarks. The big benefit that Intel has right now is that they are pretty easy to OC and get even a better bang for the buck!!! You just have to outlay a bit more initially. It used to be that you had to spend more for the Intel chip, but they didn't perform as well as AMD chips. This has changed since the release of the C2D's. You can decide what path you want to go with, but generally AMD chips with their respective mobo's are going to be a bit cheaper than Intel setups. If you can afford the little more $ now on an Intel build, than you should consider it. I for one build systems for friends who are usually on fairly tight budgets. This generally favors AMD builds over Intel ones, since I can usually squeeze out a better GPU with a AMD build over an Intel one. This doesn't always suit everyone, but in most of my cases this works out best.
Thanks, that's why I posted here losts of questions and people seem to response in a good and fast manner. Years ago tom's hardware was the best for truly budget builds and sqeezing power out of cpu's, can't believe how much tech has improved over the years, makes me feel old. I'm on a budget but I kinda on the fence, I COULD spare a bit more here and there and just tell myself "no I didn't spend 1500K including monitor", I just hate to spend so much to find a: I really didn't need it even for a few years, B: come X-mas when the only came I seem to have a want to play if I even get time wont come out until 3 months from now, knowing 3 months from now I could get almost everything for hundreds less. But that's how it goes. I just want something that will last and If I chooose to play the lastest FPS game I don't have to play it on lowest "hey kill me becuase I cant even see you yet " settings". The biggest hit right now is going to be cpu and monitor I expected vid cards to x-over into the 300 range for something to last but I didn't know about this SLI until a week ago. ANY one have any suggestions on monitors? Is it better to buy localy? I'm totally pulled in by a samsung 22 widescreen at Best buy for just under 300 before tax, has like 10000:1 and 2ms. I've never owned a lcd so all this is so new to me personally I just don't want to make a bad and expensive buy.
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I mean, I found a place for AMD's phenoms in my heart (took me a few months, I'll be honest on that...), however I'm still trying to find a place where I can recommend them without them falling short to intel.
The only thing the Q6600 lacks is the SSE4 instruction set, which helps mostly on video encoding, if you do it very little or not at all, then it's not worth stressing over it, it really is important for people who do video encoding as their primary use though. I'd say go for the Q6600 and the build you previously listed above as your best option, you'd just need a CPU cooler down the road when you decide to OC your CPU.
Crysis is a graphical behemoth (and to me also a fun game, I really enjoyed it), you shouldn't have to worry about performance to be CPU-bound, especially with a Q6600 (even though Crysis uses up to 2 cores I believe), it is more GPU-bound than anything.
Another possibility that I haven't seen being brought up here is CF HD 4850s, which should run you for about $320-340 and will give you a performance level only bested by the $550 HD 4870 X2.
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335
(Two of these) SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
Don't go SLI or use nvidia cards at the moment, they brought out some decent cards, but Ati pretty much shocked the world afterwards with their offerings, that's why everyone and their mom are getting Ati cards nowadays (myself included). About the screen, even though you might spend a little bit more, it is definitely a good idea to check out the screen in person because you can make sure it has no dead pixels and see what it looks and feels like before you drop any money on it, you should be paying a $20-40 or so mark up, but for the screen it's worth it.
The only thing the Q6600 lacks is the SSE4 instruction set, which helps mostly on video encoding, if you do it very little or not at all, then it's not worth stressing over it, it really is important for people who do video encoding as their primary use though. I'd say go for the Q6600 and the build you previously listed above as your best option, you'd just need a CPU cooler down the road when you decide to OC your CPU.
Crysis is a graphical behemoth (and to me also a fun game, I really enjoyed it), you shouldn't have to worry about performance to be CPU-bound, especially with a Q6600 (even though Crysis uses up to 2 cores I believe), it is more GPU-bound than anything.
Another possibility that I haven't seen being brought up here is CF HD 4850s, which should run you for about $320-340 and will give you a performance level only bested by the $550 HD 4870 X2.
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148335
(Two of these) SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
Don't go SLI or use nvidia cards at the moment, they brought out some decent cards, but Ati pretty much shocked the world afterwards with their offerings, that's why everyone and their mom are getting Ati cards nowadays (myself included). About the screen, even though you might spend a little bit more, it is definitely a good idea to check out the screen in person because you can make sure it has no dead pixels and see what it looks and feels like before you drop any money on it, you should be paying a $20-40 or so mark up, but for the screen it's worth it.
OK some more tweaks,
back down to earth on the cards and better value for cpu. Anyone see what might be a factor in upgrading say 2 years from now? is the board decent enough to oc' clokc after I learn more about it? Any suggestions on cases and psu's still I perferr long warrant's and enought power to last with the warranty, ie I know a 500 would be ok for now but if I did sli would it still be ok?
my new list..
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$84.99
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate $184.99
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$84.00
$79.00
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$139.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model Retail
$189.99
question again diference between radeon and sapphire?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770 169. 149 after mIR
back down to earth on the cards and better value for cpu. Anyone see what might be a factor in upgrading say 2 years from now? is the board decent enough to oc' clokc after I learn more about it? Any suggestions on cases and psu's still I perferr long warrant's and enought power to last with the warranty, ie I know a 500 would be ok for now but if I did sli would it still be ok?
my new list..
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$84.99
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate $184.99
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$84.00
$79.00
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$139.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model Retail
$189.99
question again diference between radeon and sapphire?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770 169. 149 after mIR
Oh that sounds like a decent breakthough, I know systems might not use it to it's full extent now but would it be woth another 60-70, now to last a few years instead of another 100 a few years from now..Well know that I put it that way man this sucks, racking my brain. so if I got the Q6600 and the hd 4870 would that be better then a 2.3 quad with SSEand a hd4850?
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I'd get two HD 4850 for a crossfire setup (SLI is for nvidia and Crossfire is for Ati) and the Q6600, the board is based on a chipset which is an excellent OC'er, also the video encoding refers to encoding videos on your own, nothing related to gaming or downloaded movies. I read people constantly breaking the 3.2 Ghz barrier with relative ease and some getting with good air cooling to 3.6 Ghz stable.
I would strongly advise you against getting a smaller PSU that may not be up to the job, they are after all the most important component in your build and should never be overlooked. I chose to show you the PCP&C offerings, because they are top quality in the market with great customer service (in the event that something does go sour) and retailing for a decent price considering what you're getting.
I would strongly advise you against getting a smaller PSU that may not be up to the job, they are after all the most important component in your build and should never be overlooked. I chose to show you the PCP&C offerings, because they are top quality in the market with great customer service (in the event that something does go sour) and retailing for a decent price considering what you're getting.
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q6600 - $190
2x 4850's - ~$350
mobo - ~$130
2x2gb's DDR2 - ~$60
Case - $78 CM 690 at Buy.com
Cooler Master 690 without Power Supply - RC-690-KKN1-GP
PSU - $91
Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply
or
PSU - $120
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
HD - $85
Total - ~$970 and if you need OS and DVD add about $130 to the price. The 2x 4850's is about $75 more than 1 4870, but will outperform it by quite a bit, so you can decide. If you want to save a bit now, you could just get 1 4870 for about $250 and than your price would drop below $900 before OS and DVD burner. Than if you add OS/DVD/LCD to the price you'd be about $1300-$1400 depending on how much you spend on the LCD. This system will last you quite awhile. I wouldn't worry much about the added instruction for the q8200 over the q6600. I just mentioned it, because it can make a little difference if your into that, but I don't think you will notice much if any of a difference.
2x 4850's - ~$350
mobo - ~$130
2x2gb's DDR2 - ~$60
Case - $78 CM 690 at Buy.com
Cooler Master 690 without Power Supply - RC-690-KKN1-GP
PSU - $91
Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply
or
PSU - $120
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
HD - $85
Total - ~$970 and if you need OS and DVD add about $130 to the price. The 2x 4850's is about $75 more than 1 4870, but will outperform it by quite a bit, so you can decide. If you want to save a bit now, you could just get 1 4870 for about $250 and than your price would drop below $900 before OS and DVD burner. Than if you add OS/DVD/LCD to the price you'd be about $1300-$1400 depending on how much you spend on the LCD. This system will last you quite awhile. I wouldn't worry much about the added instruction for the q8200 over the q6600. I just mentioned it, because it can make a little difference if your into that, but I don't think you will notice much if any of a difference.
Ok prettly late so I'll be ordering in the morning, anyone see if I missed anything? cables compound needed a bracket whatever please let me know thanks..
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-08 - Retail $24.99
combo case plus psu, can up grade psu in a year or so if needed, could this 550 run just what I have here plus a possible dual sli/crossfire visiontek hd4850? nothing else, beside a lan or sound card later on
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119142
$149.99-$40.00 Instant $109.99=shipping 20 =129
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $84.99
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$184.99
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$84.00
$79.00
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$139.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
$189.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk $99
total=940.96 w/s but w/o monitor
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LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-08 - Retail $24.99
combo case plus psu, can up grade psu in a year or so if needed, could this 550 run just what I have here plus a possible dual sli/crossfire visiontek hd4850? nothing else, beside a lan or sound card later on
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119142
$149.99-$40.00 Instant $109.99=shipping 20 =129
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $84.99
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$184.99
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$84.00
$79.00
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$139.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
$189.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk $99
total=940.96 w/s but w/o monitor
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Get you CM 690 case from Buy.com, it'll save you a bundle over the one you'd be buying from "newegg"???
Cooler Master 690 without Power Supply
and the PSU also from Buy.com. It's a better PSU and has a better warranty too! Only will be $8 more too!!!
Antec EarthWatt 500W P/S ATX 12V V2.2 80mm P/S2 Fan 80-Plus Certified
Cooler Master 690 without Power Supply
and the PSU also from Buy.com. It's a better PSU and has a better warranty too! Only will be $8 more too!!!
Antec EarthWatt 500W P/S ATX 12V V2.2 80mm P/S2 Fan 80-Plus Certified
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You're missing a few things...
1.) Cooler Master makes good cases, but horrid PSUs and you're getting a PSU bundled in that's probably a step above junk at most, I am very against skimping on the PSU, probably the WORST mistake you can do on a computer. Get the Corsair 750TX that luny is suggesting.
This is the case you should get, WITHOUT a bundled power supply:
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137
2.) I'm not sure if you decided on only one HD 4850. What luny and I are suggesting is an HD 4850 crossfire setup. You can drop the second one later if you want, but considering the kind of screen you want and the kind of performance you'd come to expect, I'd urge you to consider the crossfire setup if you want to be satisfied.
1.) Cooler Master makes good cases, but horrid PSUs and you're getting a PSU bundled in that's probably a step above junk at most, I am very against skimping on the PSU, probably the WORST mistake you can do on a computer. Get the Corsair 750TX that luny is suggesting.
This is the case you should get, WITHOUT a bundled power supply:
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137
2.) I'm not sure if you decided on only one HD 4850. What luny and I are suggesting is an HD 4850 crossfire setup. You can drop the second one later if you want, but considering the kind of screen you want and the kind of performance you'd come to expect, I'd urge you to consider the crossfire setup if you want to be satisfied.
I think you're getting close, but I'd still suggest a couple changes. First, you don't want an IDE DVD you want it to be SATA (mainly for airflow purposes). You'll be cutting it a bit close with a 550W PSU, and if you're looking for longevity the PSU is one of the few components that won't be outdated by new tech any time soon which makes it a prime candidate to spend extra for furture proofing. And that's good RAM, but there's a better choice. And the P5Q Pro is a very nice mobo, but the GA-EP45-DS3R has a MIR right now. I'd suggest the following...
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
CPU = $190 w/ free shipping
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R
MoBo = $110 (after MIR) + $10 shipping
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 5-4-4-12@1.8V
RAM = $69 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
HIS Hightech HD 4850
GPU = $155 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB
HDD = $85 w/ free shipping
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
Disc Drive = $28 w/ free shipping
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
PSU = $110 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Thermaltake Wing RS 101
Case = $56 w/ free shipping
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
OS = $100 w/ free shipping
ASUS VW222U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD
Monitor = $210 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Grand Total = $1123 shipped (after MIRs)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
CPU = $190 w/ free shipping
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R
MoBo = $110 (after MIR) + $10 shipping
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 5-4-4-12@1.8V
RAM = $69 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
HIS Hightech HD 4850
GPU = $155 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB
HDD = $85 w/ free shipping
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
Disc Drive = $28 w/ free shipping
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
PSU = $110 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Thermaltake Wing RS 101
Case = $56 w/ free shipping
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
OS = $100 w/ free shipping
ASUS VW222U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD
Monitor = $210 (after MIR) w/ free shipping
Grand Total = $1123 shipped (after MIRs)
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Other possible options to lower price or just to have a different selection, not that any are bad to this point:
$50 shipped!
Antec Three Hundred ATX Computer Case
$112 - $20 MIR = $92!!! $18 cheaper than the Newegg price!!
Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply
$50 shipped!
Antec Three Hundred ATX Computer Case
$112 - $20 MIR = $92!!! $18 cheaper than the Newegg price!!
Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply
Well got my case in from buy.com even though I paid for 2 day it didn't arrive until yesteray morning 4 days later if you include saturday. Newegg.. wow all I read about was how great there shipping was ect ect arrive in 2 days with regular mail. My entire order was sent via one package from cali to florida pan handle, it's suppose to arrive tomorrow, I ordered it sept 11 morning. Then I can start putting it together and asking what the L happened guys help me figure trhis out.. hope not but you know. Anyways crazy thanks to everyone who suggested the CM690 Wow craftmanship has come a long way in 8 years. 80 bucks shipped and this thing is sweet just my style it's a shame I'll be putting it under my desk, but it's also cool that the ports are on top. the fans and places for more fans on this thing is rediculous. Just sucks I have nothing to put in it right now.
well a small puff smoke, my freaking out over psu not turning on for a bit, everything is together and runs like greased lighting, awesome. Thanks again to everyone who help in the choices. On a side note, I'm a bit dissipointed in the fact that I can only get AutoCad Civil 3d in 32 version when it comes to my free version for students...so even though I called autocad and ask the help desk they said "It can run on 64 bit os in 32bit" the problem is when you get the free student versin you have to use a student installer/downloader whitch closes every tie I spend an hour downloading it justr for it to say "Autocad 32bit can not install on a 64 os".. ahhhh, it also took some run around to find 64 bit version Microsoft C++ express (also another class I'm taking though I don't enjoy it, it's a must for my degree..ugh.
One more question current guru's of modern computer techno, I have the asus board mentioned above which comes with
"Onboard Audio, Audio Chipset Realtek ALC1200 Audio Channels 8 Channels "
Now I have a number of older pc's and a few newer parts I've gather from freinds dumping there's (pack rat for computer stuff)
Question is would it be benificial to install one of these two pci sound cards that I have on hand or is the onboard much better? I don't have crazy speakers yet, but do plan on upgraded by x-mas.
The cards I have found model #'s of newegg, and net/driver forums
1)Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
2)Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Model Number SB0100
Once again thanks for the help.
Also what's a good test to make sure everythings runnning top notch? al cpus, bridges ect.
One more question current guru's of modern computer techno, I have the asus board mentioned above which comes with
"Onboard Audio, Audio Chipset Realtek ALC1200 Audio Channels 8 Channels "
Now I have a number of older pc's and a few newer parts I've gather from freinds dumping there's (pack rat for computer stuff)
Question is would it be benificial to install one of these two pci sound cards that I have on hand or is the onboard much better? I don't have crazy speakers yet, but do plan on upgraded by x-mas.
The cards I have found model #'s of newegg, and net/driver forums
1)Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
2)Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Model Number SB0100
Once again thanks for the help.
Also what's a good test to make sure everythings runnning top notch? al cpus, bridges ect.
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Well my personal opinion is that you won't need a seperate sound card. Onboard sound these days is quite nice! A seperate sound card was needed in the past to improve your FPS in games, but that has been put to rest. I use a headset (headphones and a mic combo) to do all of my gaming on. So you can decide if you really want an additional sound card or not. I'm not sure if the older sound cards have 64bit drivers for them, so you might want to consider that.
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