Budget Home Build

[glory102]

Hey,

Looking for some suggestions/comments for a budget home PC build. Any/All help is appreciated

Approximate Purchase Date: Next couple weeks

Budget Range: $700CDN all in

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Playing casual games, internet surfing, email, making videos/slideshows from family photos

Are you buying a monitor: Yes



Parts to Upgrade: Brand new build.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NCIX.ca, otvtech.com

Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada

Parts Preferences: Quality budget parts - reliability is paramount

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Like to get a nice 21"+ Monitor 900p is lowest resolution

Additional Comments: Being quiet would be nice, a nice upgrade from a E7400 and 6GB of RAM is sought for.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Current computer is on the out and needs to be upgraded.

Parts Chosen so far:

CPU: Intel i3 3220 ($129.33 - NCIX.ca)
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=75429&vpn=BX80637I33220&manufacture=Intel

PSU: Cooler Master GX 450W ($56.19 - NCIX.ca)
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=63572&vpn=RS450-ACAA&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

RAM: Corsair 8GB (4x2GB) ($37.79-NCIX.ca)
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=53427&vpn=CMX8GX3M2A1333C9&manufacture=Corsair

HDD: Western Digital 1TB Green ($89.98-NCIX.ca)
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=63571&vpn=WD10EARX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD

Motherboard: Gigabyte H77M-D3H
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=70268&vpn=GA%2DH77M%2DD3H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1360

Video Card: None (Needed?)

Case: Antec One ($52.34 - OTV)
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=15947&category_id=1018

OS: Windows 7 Home Prem, 64 Bit ($100.39 - OTV)
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=7665&category_id=606

Monitor: Asus VS208N-P ($117.77 - OTV)
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=13488&category_id=778

Total = $683.78

With taxes/shipping this will go over budget. Suggestions/comments on lowering this while still meeting the requirements?

Thank you!

 

[malbluff]

Something along these lines might suit. Certainly would give much better light gaming.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.91 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ Computer Valley)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.88 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Canada Computers)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($96.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $686.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-08 19:03 EST-0500)

Prices quoted are claimed to include tax/delivery.

If wanting to stay with Intel, the i3-3225 has much better on board graphics, although still a long way short of the A10. If staying with Intel, I would recommend using Antec, for power supply, rather than Crappermaster.

 

[deadlockedworld]

+1 to above. I was just about to comment on the PSU, but he found way better deals that I did.

Complete agreement that the trinity CPU with decent graphics is a much better choice than no graphic card at all. Also if you decide that you need it, you can still get an AMD card later.

The processor comes with a fan - no need to get the 212 unless overclocking.

 

[malbluff]

Both the processor, and iGPU overclock reasonably, on the A10, so worth doing, though obviously not essential, if OP doesn't want expense of aftermarket cooler.
It should be borne in mind that, whilst the inbuilt graphics of the A10 are WAY better than even the HD4000 graphics of i3-3225, if OP decides he wants even more gaming capability, the A10 does not work particularly well with an ADDITIONAL GPU. i3+ seperate graphics card is better than A10, with same graphics card.

 

[glory102]

For this build there will be no OC'ing so that function is not an issue right now.

The gaming done on this are what one might call "casual gaming", nothing intense like COD or BF3, but games I believe are more flashed based. I think I will stick with the i3 3220 just for malbuff's comment about the additional GPU down the road.

Might save some cash by smaller HDD size and using some of the deals found above. More input is always welcome as this is still a work in progress.

Would it be worthwhile to save money by going to a B75 board over a H77 Board?

Thx!

 

[malbluff]

For this build there will be no OC'ing so that function is not an issue right now.

The gaming done on this are what one might call "casual gaming", nothing intense like COD or BF3, but games I believe are more flashed based. I think I will stick with the i3 3220 just for malbuff's comment about the additional GPU down the road.

Might save some cash by smaller HDD size and using some of the deals found above. More input is always welcome as this is still a work in progress.

Would it be worthwhile to save money by going to a B75 board over a H77 Board?

Thx!

If going with i3, at least initially without GPU, get i3-3225. MUCH better graphics, for little extra cost. As long as you appreciate that whilst i3 + GPU is better than A10 + GPU, you are more LIKELY to NEED a GPU with the i3, than with the A10. Personally, I think you are better, in the long run, to go with i3, because, sooner or later, even with A10, I can virtually guarantee you'll want more, but it isn't "cut and dried".

 

[glory102]

Ya seems NCIX Canada has the i3 3225 for $0.6 more so might as well get that.

Need a bit of help with the motherboard, deciding between:
-Gigabyte H77M-D3H
-Gigabyte H77-DS3H
-Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3P (would save ~$10)

Suggestions?

 

[malbluff]

The B75 is intended as an entry level business board. That doesn't necessarily mean it's not suitable, but it does lack a 2nd 6Gb/s port, which can be an issue, if you want to add a 2nd HDD or SSD. Other than that, it performs reasonably well. There isn't much real difference between the H77 boards, except the mATX board doesn't have as many expansion slots, but these days fewer tend to be required, for stuff like sound cards, as onboard sound, for instance, is quite good. On that subject, the mATX board has different audio provision. To be honest, I'm not sure if that, on the mATX board, is better, although as it is included in some more expensive boards, I suspect it may be better, but really not sure.
Hopefully someone else may be able to advise on that. There probably isn't much difference.

 

[glory102]

SO after some more work this is the build so far (all NCIX.ca with price matching):

CPU: i3 3225 (129.99- Sale til the 14th)
Case: Antec One (47.97-OTV (save on shipping))
RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 (38.02)
PSU: Corsair CX Series CX430 (39.99)
HDD: WD Blue 1TB 64MB cache (74.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B75M-D3H (64.99)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90/72 (18.42-Otv)
Monitor: ASUS VE228H (139.99)

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM (97.99)

After shipping + taxes,etc = ~$711

How does it look? Tried using some of the prices uptop but the sales have ended.

 

[malbluff]

Subject to the B75 limitations, already mentioned, that will all work fine together, and you can drop something like a HD7770 in, as and when you need.
Personally, were funds available, I would be inclined to spend a little more on a H77 mobo, and perhaps better PSU, to give myself wider upgrade options, for the future, but that's personal choice (and of course, subject to funds).