Question Budget PC . Please help.

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Im looking to buy my first PC. Ive been researching a little bit, only looking to spend $650. I found 2 good looking prebuilts. One has a Ryzen 5 3500 + GTX 1650 Super for $600. The other one has a Ryzen 5 2600 + Radeon RX 580 for $600. Im mainly looking to play shooter games like apex legends, warzone, and valorant, using low settings to get the most FPS. Im wondering which one I should get, or would I be able to get better components at the same price.
 
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Im looking to buy my first PC. Ive been researching a little bit, only looking to spend $650. I found 2 good looking prebuilts. One has a Ryzen 5 3500 + GTX 1650 Super for $600. The other one has a Ryzen 5 2600 + Radeon RX 580 for $600. Im mainly looking to play shooter games like apex legends, warzone, and valorant, using low settings to get the most FPS. Im wondering which one I should get, or would I be able to get better components at the same price.
 
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Im looking to buy my first PC. Ive been researching a little bit, only looking to spend $650. I found 2 good looking prebuilts. One has a Ryzen 5 3500 + GTX 1650 Super for $600. The other one has a Ryzen 5 2600 + Radeon RX 580 for $600. Im mainly looking to play shooter games like apex legends, warzone, and valorant, using low settings to get the most FPS. Im wondering which one I should get, or would I be able to get better components at the same price.
 

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It's hard to make a call w/o actually seeing the two systems and their other specs. But the 3500 has a tiny edge over the 2600. The RX 580 has a tiny edge over the 1650S. So it works out a tossup w/o knowing more.
 

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Im looking to buy my first PC. Ive been researching a little bit, only looking to spend $650. I found 2 good looking prebuilts. One has a Ryzen 5 3500 + GTX 1650 Super for $600. The other one has a Ryzen 5 2600 + Radeon RX 580 for $600. Im mainly looking to play shooter games like apex legends, warzone, and valorant, using low settings to get the most FPS. Im wondering which one I should get, or would I be able to get better components at the same price.
What about 2600 + 1660

What about i5-10400F is it cheaper or costlier than these two CPUs?
 
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What do you think about this build. TOTAL : $688

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler - YD260XBCAFBOX AM4 $ $165

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard DDR4 $ $59

Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600 XT WINDFORCE OC 6G Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 192-Bit GDDR6, GV-R56XTWF2OC-6GD REV2.0 Video Card $ $299

TEAMGROUP T-Force Zeus DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3000MHz (PC4 24000) CL16 Desktop Gaming Memory Module Ram - TTZD416G3000HC16CDC01 $ $48

THU Internal SSD, 256GB NAND M.2 2280 SATA NGFF, Gen 3 x 4 Internal Solid State Drive R/W 300/350MB/s SSD (256GB) $ $30

Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0500NPCWUS-W $ $48

ABKONCORE C650 ATX Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case, Magnetic Dust Filter, Full Transparent Acrylic Side Panel, Water-Cooling Ready, with One 140mm Pre-Installed Fan $ $39

By PC Builder http://bit.ly/2BF4Qi9
 
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You're looking to build your own now? Or is that a pre-built you found?
I think I would rather build it now. Made a little changes.

TOTAL : $712

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler - YD260XBCAFBOX AM4 $ $165

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard DDR4 $ $59

Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600 XT WINDFORCE OC 6G Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 192-Bit GDDR6, GV-R56XTWF2OC-6GD REV2.0 Video Card $ $299

XPG Z1 DDR4 3200MHz (PC4 25600) 16GB (2x8GB) 288-Pin CL-16-20-20 Memory Modules, Black (AX4U320038G16A-DBZ) $ $49

THU Internal SSD, 256GB NAND M.2 2280 SATA NGFF, Gen 3 x 4 Internal Solid State Drive R/W 300/350MB/s SSD (256GB) $ $30

Apevia ATX-PR600W Prestige 600W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply $ $54

Montech X1 White ATX Mid-Tower Case/High Airflow, Front Mesh Ventilation, Tempered Glass Side Panel, Pre-Installed 4 x 120mm Autoflow Rainbow LED Fans $ $56

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That'll work. Have you ever built a PC before?
A couple thoughts, however. 1) you'll want more storage than 256GB, I'm sure. Maybe use an existing HDD you have? Buy an inexpensive 1 or 2 TB HDD? Or get a TB SSD.
2) Keep in mind that bronze, silver, gold are simply efficiency ratings for PSUs. It doesn't necessarily make a gold one better than a bronze one for instance. The Apevia brand isn't very good, although that one has a healthy 50 amps available at the +12v rail. But it's priced at the bronze prices.

So... that build should be more than enough for high framerates at most any setting at 1080p/1440p. I have a RX 5600 XT in one of my PCs. Quite a beast ay 1440p using ultra settings. At least in the games I play.
 
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That'll work. Have you ever built a PC before?
A couple thoughts, however. 1) you'll want more storage than 256GB, I'm sure. Maybe use an existing HDD you have? Buy an inexpensive 1 or 2 TB HDD? Or get a TB SSD.
2) Keep in mind that bronze, silver, gold are simply efficiency ratings for PSUs. It doesn't necessarily make a gold one better than a bronze one for instance. The Apevia brand isn't very good, although that one has a healthy 50 amps available at the +12v rail. But it's priced at the bronze prices.

So... that build should be more than enough for high framerates at most any setting at 1080p/1440p. I have a RX 5600 XT in one of my PCs. Quite a beast ay 1440p using ultra settings. At least in the games I play.
Never built one before. Some people recommend the GTX 2060 Super over the 5600 xt? 3600 over the 2600x? Having an HDD won't make a difference? I don't have much more of a budget because I gotta get a MNK. I only have a 144 Hz AOC monitor right now I use for my PS4. I have a 27 inch Acer Nitro VG1 I wasn't able to return , it works but I like the AOC for my PS4 . Hope I can get 144 FPS outta Warzone and Apex Legends.
 

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With those two games and a busy server and wanting 144 fps (min?), I'd go with the R5 3600 unless you can live with less. Here is a video of the R5 2600 and the RX 5500 XT. Near as I could find for comparison. It should give you an idea of what the CPU is capable of delivering. It's 1080p, but that isn't going to make any difference; it's up to the CPU mainly with low settings. The GPU will just work a little harder at 1440p.
 
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With those two games and a busy server and wanting 144 fps (min?), I'd go with the R5 3600 unless you can live with less. Here is a video of the R5 2600 and the RX 5500 XT. Near as I could find for comparison. It should give you an idea of what the CPU is capable of delivering. It's 1080p, but that isn't going to make any difference; it's up to the CPU mainly with low settings. The GPU will just work a little harder at 1440p.

Thanks. I just found a CyberpowerPc with a 3600, 5600xt, 16Gb ram, 1TB HDD+500 SSD for $750
 
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Looks like your original $650 budget is taking a hit. But as long as you're good with that and not eager to build your own, that might be worth it. What is the make/model of the PSU, do they say?
I think I would be able to. I don't have to worry about buying a MNK. I know it's not going to be the best MNK so I think I'll use my PS4 controller until I get enough for a good combo. It looks like the PSU varies depending on what they have available at the time. Here's some that people said came with it.

Thermaltake 600 WATT PSU

EVGA 600 Gold (80 Plus Gold)

Apevia 600w 80 Plus Gold
 
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That CyberpowerPC is sold out right now. Waiting for it to come back in stock or here's a build I built on Newegg the total is $838, I have a 10% off code, $50 maximum discount so it'll come out to $788 including tax. Just wondering if I should wait for the CyberpowerPc to come back in stock or go with this build.


New PC TOTAL : $925

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler AM4 $ $272

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard DDR4 $ $59

ASRock AMD Radeon RX5600XT Graphics Board GDDR6 6GB Phamtom Gaming Series RX 5600XT PG D2 6G OC $ $303

XPG Z1 Gaming Memory: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz CL16 Gold $ $66

Mushkin 1TB Enhanced RAW Series 2.5" SATA III 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDRW1TB $ $99

Montech Gamma II Power Supply 550W 80+ Gold Certified PSU, LLC+DC to DC Technology, Full Japanese Capacitors, 120mm Silent Fan, Flat Cables $ $66

Fractal Design Focus G - Mid Tower Computer Case - ATX - High Airflow - 2X Fractal Design Silent LL Series 120mm White LED Fans Included - USB 3.0 - Window Side Panel - White $ $60

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clutchc

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Good build. At least as good as the pre-built with a bigger SSD, but no HDD. Maybe a better case too. Looks like you have a decision to make. Holiday time means PC parts and pre-builts will sell out fast. The pandemic means restocking those items may take longer. I just ordered a motherboard from the Egg and was told shipping may take up to a week longer than estimated depending on carrier load.
 

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Thanks. I just found a CyberpowerPc with a 3600, 5600xt, 16Gb ram, 1TB HDD+500 SSD for $750
Cyberpower I would not go with, they use lower quality components and the build quality is often not good (cables not connected for example). Since you were looking into building your own, that is the best way to make sure you get the best parts and have expansion room with standard parts.
 

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