Build a gaming PC under $650

[theman5269]

I am building a gaming pc for gaming. I will mostly be playing BF3, GTA IV, Wow, and Skyrim. I already have a PSU,Case, and OS. I can't afford any more so if I should swap out any parts please make sure that it adds up to the same size.


Here's what I have so far:

1tb hard drive-60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304

3570k-220$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

z77 mobo-115$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293

8gb ram-35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231485

6850-150$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&Tpk=sapphire%206850

asus optical drive-17$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&Tpk=asus%20drw-24b1st

rosewill keyboard-6$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201029&Tpk=rosewill%20rk-101

rosewill mouse-5$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193041&Tpk=rosewill%20rm-c2p

 

[theman5269]

thats a great build but that puts me at $629 without Shipping/tax which adds about another $100-$150 (Did the math on newegg) Cant I just downgrade the Mobo to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

And I would like to stick to intel since there is a much better upgrade path than the Amd's if i want an i7 in the future than I can upgrade to one.

 

[blazorthon]

oh well thats a hard one :/ definetely not the i3 because that would bottleneck your gpu... but here what is your budget for both the gpu and cpu(how much do you have left to spend on that stuff)

Of sure, an i3 is a bottle-neck, but a weaker FX-6200 isn't? Besides, if one is to go for an AMD FX-6xxx CPU, why not get the FX-6300 instead of the FX-6200? It's only slightly more expensive, yet it's a little faster and much more energy efficient.

Besides, an i5 and a 7850 can fit in a $600 budget just fine anyway. Get an AMD build if you want one, just know that an Intel build most certainly is still at least as good of an option.

 

[blazorthon]

thats a great build but that puts me at $629 without Shipping/tax which adds about another $100-$150 (Did the math on newegg) Cant I just downgrade the Mobo to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

And I would like to stick to intel since there is a much better upgrade path than the Amd's if i want an i7 in the future than I can upgrade to one.

There is not necessarily a better upgrade path with Intel and the i7s have literally almost zero advantage over the i5s in gaming. AMD's AM3+ platform will be compatible with at least one more generation (probably two) from AMD and that'll probably be a better upgrade path than sticking with LGA 1155.

 

[PanicMaster85]

http://techreport.com/r.x/amd-fx-8350/gaming-scatter.gif

Of sure, an i3 is a bottle-neck, but a weaker FX-6200 isn't? Besides, if one is to go for an AMD FX-6xxx CPU, why not get the FX-6300 instead of the FX-6200? It's only slightly more expensive, yet it's a little faster and much more energy efficient.

Besides, an i5 and a 7850 can fit in a $600 budget just fine anyway. Get an AMD build if you want one, just know that an Intel build most certainly is still at least as good of an option.

first off it is not weaker... but i do like your idea but i think that the little extra is just too much

 

[PanicMaster85]

thats a great build but that puts me at $629 without Shipping/tax which adds about another $100-$150 (Did the math on newegg) Cant I just downgrade the Mobo to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

And I would like to stick to intel since there is a much better upgrade path than the Amd's if i want an i7 in the future than I can upgrade to one.

is see what you mean but no it will not cost you 100=150 for shipping thats just crazy

 

[blazorthon]

first off it is not weaker... but i do like your idea but i think that the little extra is just too much

Tech report, Tom's Hardware, Anandtech, and more all say that the i3s are generally faster gaming CPUs than the FX-6200.

 

[PanicMaster85]

what about the 6300? also do you have any proof?

 

[blazorthon]

FX-6300 can't beat the FX-8350 (shown as about equal to the i3-3225/3220 in the review) nor can it meet it because it's a lower clocked, lower core count version of the same CPU die. I don't need another test to show that. I most certainly don't need tests to show that the FX-6300 beats the 6200 either because the 8320 versus the 8150 and the 4300 and Trinity A10s versus FX -4100 and FX-4170 shows how Piledriver is superior to Bulldozer even if at somewhat lower frequencies.

EDIT: Also, this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

The FX-8150 is a generally equally performing CPU in gaming to the FX-6200 and the FX-6300 beat it every time except for in the Star Craft II test.

 

[PanicMaster85]

unless you overclock it :/ i have my 8120 to 4.7...

oh yeah with that link you are showing me that the i3 does not actually beat the 6xxx :/ interesting

 

[blazorthon]

unless you overclock it :/ i have my 8120 to 4.7...

oh yeah with that link you are showing me that the i3 does not actually beat the 6xxx :/ interesting

Those were Windows 8 benchmarks. Besides, these sorts of benchmarks aren't good for comparing very different architectures because they're more synthetic than real-world. They're only good for comparing similarly designed CPUs such as Bulldozer to Piledriver.

 

[PanicMaster85]

:| that makes no sense i think your denying what the benchmarks are saying

 

[blazorthon]

What do you mean that makes no sense? How does that not make sense? Techreport proved that measuring mere average FPS is not accurate nor even is it necessarily realistic. That's why Techreport doesn't use it to compare hardware anymore, it's not realistic because the average FPS counts frames in a given second rather than their consistency aka real-world smoothness.

http://techreport.com/review/23246/inside-the-second-gaming-performance-with-today-cpus/3

Look this stuff up before making accusations about a subject that you've just proven thatyou don't understand as well as you seem to think that you do. FPS benchmarks are hardly better than synthetics. Real-world tests are frame rate charts and frame latency benchmarks.

 

[PanicMaster85]

you got me there :lol:

well then what do you think? what would suit him?

OP: are you going to be editing any videos?

 

[blazorthon]

Using OP's case and PSU:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nMSu

With the optional mouse upgrade to this should the mouse included with the keyboard not be any good:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gear-head-mouse-lm6000u

i5-2500K, Z68 motherboard, CM H212+ cooler, 2x4GB DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V memory kit, WD CAviar Blue 1TB hard drive, decent non-reference Radeon 7850 2GB, and the cheapest DVD/CD burner on pcpartpicker.com.

Optionally, a little over budget but not by far, the Plextor M5S 64GB SSD could be used as a boot drive for another $50. It's one of the fastest and most reliable 64GB SSDs available and although it wouldn't be as versatile as a higher capacity model, it would be better than just using a hard drive and heck, with the SSD, you could also simply get a slower, cheaper hard drive to bring it under the budget since it won't be the system drive, making the hard drive's performance less of an issue.

What do you guys think of this? Did I miss anything?

 

[Gutlesswolverine]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2dC8Q


Swap the mobo, case & gpu.
There you go!
Can play almost any game you throw at it on max settings 😉