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cannon_dt

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Guys,

Turning to you guys again for some build advice, please do lend me your expert opinions

I am building a PC for my friend and the requirements are as follows
- do some 1080p gaming
- animation and multi media tasks including video editing / rendering
- softwares include Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Audition, Flash, After effects, 3Ds Max, Maya.

Budget is around 60K (dont need a monitor and kb/m, all other components needed)

Having just built a gaming PC, I know that the i5 would suffice for all 1080p gaming needs. But given that video editing etc and animation is not my forte, I am turning to you experts for advice. I have included as much information as I can in terms of tasks and softwares to be used.

If there is any other information that is needed please do let me know - I primarily need advice on the CPU/MB and GPU front. I assume the rest would fall into place once those core components are decided. Also given that I stay in India, my budget is in INR. I know that the US prices are much more competitive but I assume that the 60k budget would suffice. Please do give suggestions for all components if that is more sensible in terms of assembling the whole system.

Peace,
Ananth

PS : Just to confirm, this is a build from scratch, no existing parts that can be reused in the build.
 
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The 7700k would be good, but the 1600 is going to be better. 12 threads vs 8. The 1700 beats Intel's 6 core cpu, in such tasks, and holds its own pretty well vs the $1000 8 core Intels, clock for clock. Price/performance, for video editing, Ryzen wins hands down. The Ryzen 7 would be more than 2k less, as you could use the stock cooler, for now, and that you could use a less expensive B350 board, unless you absolutely had to have SLI. Given the fact that the GTX 1060 isn't SLI capable, I do not see that being the case here.
OK, that settles it. Given the budget ties and the minimal adv in 1600, I would settle with the 7700K. I am hoping that coupling it with a 1060 should suffice for all intended tasks and gaming.

One last point - is it ok to buy the cheapest Z170 MB or are there any other parameters to consider? I am looking for places to cut corners and save some moolah, hence the question. I know the PSU cannot be compromised on but any other ways to cut some money, please do let me know

Peace
 
@cannon_dt

3 things I look at on mobo in this order when purchasing (OC ability, VRM throttling, audio) If you arent OCIng and not using a 3rd party sound check out "gaming" series mobos, most of them have best onboard audio available
 


But they are not the budget kind.... unfortunately 🙁
 


Of course there are, MSI has a "gaming" mobo very simple for under 80$... Its matx but should do if you want budget

 
So you need ultra budget, I mean for your needs you may as well spend a little more. Mobos that are less then gaming class are the utmost bottom of bin. Sound will not be very good, no OC capabilitys practically

What are you doing 7700K or Ryzen finally?
 




Corsair makes pretty good PSU
 


The costlier version is for overclocking, has more features and is designed for gaming so it should last a bit longer
 
@YoAndy
I already got the Seasonic 620W S12II PSU, so that is not a concern.

It is the MB that I am debating on. Isnt any Z170 capable of OC? Is it worth the price rise to buy the costlier version?
 
With the gaming version you will be able to get close or 5ghz out of your 7700k processor and that's a decent performance advantage it has better heat sinks for better heat dissipation while gaming, overclocking or doing intensive tasks.
 


If you dont know how or don't feel comfortable updating the bios. You should be able to get a similar prized Z270 board.
 
I still say Ryzen 5 1600/1600x, or maybe even a 1700, would still be your better option, for the money. The 1700 could match an 1800x, with some overclocking. I typically don't post youtube vids, but you might want to give this a watch. It is based on the 1800x, though, so it would be more relevant to the 1700. A 1700 would be a bit less than a 7700k.

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf_pUECRmAo"][/video]
 


So let me get this stright. you have to overclock the 1700 to get close to a stock 7700k? But what about an overclocked 7700k to 5ghz?

 
He didn't use a 7700k. He did his comparisons to a 6950x. Video related worklaods, the 1800x, wasn't far from the much more expensive quad channel beast 8 core from Intel. The 7700k is a great CPU. I own a 6700k @ 4.5ghz myself. But for a dual purpose machine such as the one the OP wants, Ryzen is the way go, preferably the 1700.
 
Here is a real world comparison between all and best overclocked core i7 7700k's vs all and the best 1700's, instead of assuming witch one is better look at real world benchmarks by real users and real people. Few post back I already posted a link and a full comparison of the 2. and like i said before the i7700k is a better cpu.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3647vs3917

i7 Much faster single-core speed.
+36%
Faster quad-core speed.
+27%
All around Faster effective speed.
+18%
 
The 7700k vs the 1700 showed the 1700 as being better, in multithreaded workloads.


Ryzen 1700 Multi Core Integer Speed
Much faster multi-core int speed.
+72%


Multi Core Floating Point Speed
Much faster multi-core fp speed.
+53%


Also from that site, which praises the 1700's value.

The AMD Ryzen 7 1700 is the least powerful of three new Ryzen 7 CPUs. The 1700 model has base and turbo clocks of 3.0 and 3.7 GHz respectively. Both of its more expensive siblings, the 1700X and 1800X, have higher clocks but they also have TDPs of 95 watts whereas the 1700 is rated at just 65 watts. Comparing IPC between Ryzen and Kaby Lake shows that Kaby Lake leads by a maximum of 9% which is great news for workstation users as this allows the 1700 to beat Intel's 6850K in multi-core workloads at almost half the price. Although the 1700 has great IPC it's somewhat limited by its relatively low (by Kaby Lake standards) clock speed which holds it back a little in both gaming and desktop workloads. For multi-core workstation use, the Ryzen 7 1700 represents the best value for money we have ever seen. [Mar '17 CPUPro]
 
I am ready to start crying now !!!!

@logainofhades
OK, all benchmarks apart - on a pure budget scale, after putting all components together (except for the CPU Cooler), if the i7 is only 2K INR more than the 1700 what would you suggest? The reason I never considered that ryzen 1700 and above was exactly that reason. It does not save me reasonable money over the 7700K. Now if you bring in the 1600 I see some advantages but from YoAndy's benchmark links the 1600 is far below the 7700K.

Do you really think I should reconsider now? Also if you think the 1700 is going to outperform the 7700k then that would be a fair point but I dont think that is the case right???

Anyways, I have bought nothing but the GPU and PSU - so I am open to any changes you guys suggest but at some point I need to make up my mind.
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