Question Build on am4 or am5?

[hercules850]

I want to build a atx pc(1100 euros budget) that i am going to play games 2k resolution and do some photoshop aside.I dont want to do many upgrades on the pc in the future ,the only thing i might upgrade is ssd, ram or fans.Have in mind that the prices in my country(greece) are similar to germany and italy.

 

[Eximo]

Fairly comparable I would say. But AM4 is a dead end platform. Not going to be much in the way of DDR4 upgrade options and there aren't likely to be more CPUs for the socket.

With AM5 you can swap out the CPU in a few years, add faster DDR5, etc.

AM5
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€182.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€165.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€343.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold V2 ATX3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1088.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 15:26 CEST+0200

AM4

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€269.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 PLUS V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€20.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€129.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€343.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold V2 ATX3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1114.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 15:28 CEST+0200

 

[hercules850]

damn you helped me a lot ,thank you so much

 

[35below0]

Try using this when shopping across the EU: https://www.hagglezon.com/

 

[hercules850]

Fairly comparable I would say. But AM4 is a dead end platform. Not going to be much in the way of DDR4 upgrade options and there aren't likely to be more CPUs for the socket.

With AM5 you can swap out the CPU in a few years, add faster DDR5, etc.

AM5
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€182.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€165.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€343.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold V2 ATX3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1088.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 15:26 CEST+0200

AM4

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (€269.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 PLUS V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€20.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€129.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€343.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold V2 ATX3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1114.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 15:28 CEST+0200

One more question, can i replace the psu with

CoolerMaster MWE 750 Bronze 230V v2 750W​

or even Corsair RM750e ATX12V ?​

 

[Eximo]

Personally, I wouldn't. I picked that PSU for its future capabilities. Not sure if AMD is going to adopt the ATX 3.0 12vHPWR connector, but Nvidia certainly has.

 

[hercules850]

Personally, I wouldn't. I picked that PSU for its future capabilities. Not sure if AMD is going to adopt the ATX 3.0 12vHPWR connector, but Nvidia certainly has.

the

Corsair RM750e ATX12V ?​

 

[Eximo]

That one is adequate. I'm told it can get a little loud under a heavy load though.

 

[beyondlogic]

One more question, can i replace the psu with

CoolerMaster MWE 750 Bronze 230V v2 750W ?​

personally never skimp on the power supply

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qpjJ4M

slight tweaked the gpu to rx 6800 and added the operating system in the build.

am4 doesnt have much of a upgrade path but later you can bump to a 12 core if its needed in future.

am5 is more but it is more future proof.

2k should be fine on the am4

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

To the OP, just be clear, the Zen3/AM4 build that @Eximo put up will be faster at gaming than the Zen4/AM5 build, as the 5800x3d CPU is faster in gaming. Now, this is not all games, but a high proportion.

As they pointed out though, no upgrade path for AM4, and the AM5 socket is now and for the next few years. With the newer tech you can simply swap out processors further down the line, for more performance.

Both recommended builds are very strong.

 

[Eximo]

9800X3D in the near future, or whatever else AMD might come up with after Zen 5. I wouldn't be surprised with a June announcement and Q3 availability.

5700X is also a very good budget processor right now. But that would be more or less planned obsolescence. Spend less now to have more available when you do a complete platform upgrade.

Hard to justify an Intel build right now. 12th gen chips are cheap, but the only upgrade options are already on the market. My plan is to get a 14th gen chip and ride that for a few more years with my existing DDR4 and motherboard.

 

[hercules850]

personally never skimp on the power supply

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qpjJ4M

slight tweaked the gpu to rx 6800 and added the operating system in the build.

am4 doesnt have much of a upgrade path but later you can bump to a 12 core if its needed in future.

am5 is more but it is more future proof.

2k should be fine on the am4

what i coud do ,to make this list less than 1100 without changing motherboard and gpu?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hr7pwg

 

[Eximo]

Maybe look at Teamgroup for System Memory and Storage. They have good stuff, just not the most recognizable brand.

You can stick with the stock AMD CPU cooler.

And there are cheaper cases, though not by much.

 

[beyondlogic]

Maybe look at Teamgroup for System Memory and Storage. They have good stuff, just not the most recognizable brand.

You can stick with the stock AMD CPU cooler.

And there are cheaper cases, though not by much.

Doesn't come with a stock cooler

 

[Eximo]

Ryzen 7600 does come with a stock cooler, unless you find the non-box or tray version.

 

[35below0]

what i coud do ,to make this list less than 1100 without changing motherboard and gpu?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hr7pwg

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€200.00)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€174.00)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€139.00)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€66.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€384.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (€55.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.00)
Total: €1121.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 20:31 CEST+0200

This Sharkoon case is even cheaper: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/9Dn9TW/sharkoon-vs8-atx-mid-tower-case-4044951039074
It's not as nice quality, but final price will be €1112

 

[helper800]

If the OP is not planning on upgrading in the future then it begs the question for an Intel build like so:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (€176.95 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M PG RIPTIDE/D5 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€135.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€104.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€70.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€74.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1107.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 21:10 CEST+0200

 

[hercules850]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€200.00)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€174.00)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€139.00)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€66.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€384.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (€55.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.00)
Total: €1121.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 20:31 CEST+0200

This Sharkoon case is even cheaper: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/9Dn9TW/sharkoon-vs8-atx-mid-tower-case-4044951039074
It's not as nice quality, but final price will be €1112

is alright to have the stock cooler?

 

[beyondlogic]

what i coud do ,to make this list less than 1100 without changing motherboard and gpu?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hr7pwg

as close as youd get it

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6wPQWt you still need a os

 

[hercules850]

If the OP is not planning on upgrading in the future then it begs the question for an Intel build like so:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (€176.95 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M PG RIPTIDE/D5 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€135.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€104.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€70.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€74.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1107.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 21:10 CEST+0200

Sadly there are no many 6800 xt in my country and this specific gpu doesnt even exist

 

[35below0]

is alright to have the stock cooler?

Yeah. Why throw away a cooler and spend money on a different one?

 

[Eximo]

Noise or aesthetics mostly. But the 7600 runs pretty cool if you don't overclock it.

 

[helper800]

Sadly there are no many 6800 xt in my country and this specific gpu doesnt even exist

You can find it right here. What do you mean?

 

[35below0]

You can find it right here. What do you mean?

OP is buying in Greece, DE prices are for comparison. And i guess they can also ship from Germany or elsewhere but Europe is a lot stupider when it comes to shipping.

 

[beyondlogic]

OP is buying in Greece, DE prices are for comparison. And i guess they can also ship from Germany or elsewhere but Europe is a lot stupider when it comes to shipping.

Maybe in Greece I can buy out of most places in Europe fine in UK. If op shows us where they can get there parts from then we won't be fumbling in the dark