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I've built the last 10 computers ( the wife and I have separate machines and
like to try and stay relatively close to "the bleeding edge" ) in my house
and I would like to try and build a raid server... the reason?... I have a
lot of files (around 500 gigs) on my machine that I would like to dump off
onto a raid-1 type server....

I can't really burn the files to disc... I need "instant" access to the
data....
Currently, the data is on 3 - 250 gig hd's on my machine... but this currant
build is about a yr old and I am starting to get antsy about a hd failure...

my desire is to have "storage"... instant access storage

Currently, there are 3 computers in my house... my wife's, mine and one for
my grandson to play games and surf the internet on.... all three of these
machines are on the network sharing one cable internet connection....

I would like to have about 8 - 300 gig hds or around 1 terabyte mirrored -
raid-1

So, am I going to have to SCSI? or can I achieve this with ide hds

Is there a website or link that can give me a "how to" on this project?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanx
SNC
 
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In article <10bvbqs82oeri50@corp.supernews.com>, me@bitemeyouspammer.com
says...
> I've built the last 10 computers ( the wife and I have separate machines and
> like to try and stay relatively close to "the bleeding edge" ) in my house
> and I would like to try and build a raid server... the reason?... I have a
> lot of files (around 500 gigs) on my machine that I would like to dump off
> onto a raid-1 type server....
>
> I can't really burn the files to disc... I need "instant" access to the
> data....
> Currently, the data is on 3 - 250 gig hd's on my machine... but this currant
> build is about a yr old and I am starting to get antsy about a hd failure...
>
> my desire is to have "storage"... instant access storage
>
> Currently, there are 3 computers in my house... my wife's, mine and one for
> my grandson to play games and surf the internet on.... all three of these
> machines are on the network sharing one cable internet connection....
>
> I would like to have about 8 - 300 gig hds or around 1 terabyte mirrored -
> raid-1
>
> So, am I going to have to SCSI? or can I achieve this with ide hds
>
> Is there a website or link that can give me a "how to" on this project?
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
space.

I like the ASUS PC-DL Deluxe Dual Xeon CPU system - has all you need for
a nice small business server.

SATA Drives can rival the regular SCSI drives.


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>
> Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
> installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
> space.
>
is is possible to put two cards on one machine.... once again, im looking
for maximum data protection.... 1TB "mirrored" (2TB total)

thanx
 
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SNC,
Do some reading about RAID and you'll learn that RAID 5 is one of the
most efficient ways to utilize hard drives in a redundant fault-tolerant
manner. RAID 1 is safe, but it wastes 50% of your disk space. RAID5 uses
at least 3 drives, and wastes "only" 1 drive's worth of space.

So - RAID 5 with two drives = RAID 1 = 50% wasted space
RAID 5 with three drives = 33% wasted space
RAID 5 with four drives = 25% wasted space
RAID 5 with five drives = 20% wasted space

NOTE: the space isn't truly "wasted" as it is the redundant data needed to
be tolerant of a single drive failure. Usually in RAID 5, you can also
designate a HOT SPARE drive that will join the array in the event one drive
goes bad. It will then be rebuilt by the other drives in the array.

"SNC" <me@bitemeyouspammer.com> wrote in message
news:10bvj9s9ovkq209@corp.supernews.com...
>
> >
> > Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
> > installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
> > space.
> >
> is is possible to put two cards on one machine.... once again, im looking
> for maximum data protection.... 1TB "mirrored" (2TB total)
>
> thanx
>
>
 
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In article <10bvj9s9ovkq209@corp.supernews.com>, me@bitemeyouspammer.com
says...
>
> >
> > Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
> > installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
> > space.
> >
> is is possible to put two cards on one machine.... once again, im looking
> for maximum data protection.... 1TB "mirrored" (2TB total)

RAID 5 is the best protection and method for your solution. A mirror
would waste a ton of space and not provide any more protection. The Raid
5 array will provide better reads on a busy server.

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Thanx guys... will research the different forms of raid... but sounds like
Raid-5 is the answer....


"Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b29a7666c8d23ec98a5e1@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> In article <10bvj9s9ovkq209@corp.supernews.com>, me@bitemeyouspammer.com
> says...
> >
> > >
> > > Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
> > > installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
> > > space.
> > >
> > is is possible to put two cards on one machine.... once again, im
looking
> > for maximum data protection.... 1TB "mirrored" (2TB total)
>
> RAID 5 is the best protection and method for your solution. A mirror
> would waste a ton of space and not provide any more protection. The Raid
> 5 array will provide better reads on a busy server.
>
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In message <10bvpasespifv93@corp.supernews.com>, SNC
<me@bitemeyouspammer.com> writes
>Thanx guys... will research the different forms of raid... but sounds like
>Raid-5 is the answer....

I'll just throw this in......

You setup/needs sounds very similar to ours at home. A couple of points:
1. You might be better off having the 2TB of storage arranged as his n
her machines, each having 1TB. Just have duplicate copies of the
important files on both machines.
2. If the PSU blows up and fries everything, server gets stolen, dropped
etc, you stand a better chance of not loosing everything.
3. If you've got that much storage (as have we) its probably large
multimedia files. These take a bloody age to transfer over a network.
We've gone over to gigabit LAN because of it and its still nowhere near
fast enough. (But its great to do the periodic LAN backups)

Just a thought.

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>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated
>
> Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
> installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
> space.

Nahhh, buy anything but Promise.

I suggest 3ware: they are the best in IDE raid, the pro choice 🙂

Check www.3ware.com
 
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Me again,

Since it is a 'given' that you will be getting a raid card with a capacity
of at least 5 drives (raid 5 for 1 tb with 250 GB drives), the I do suggest
some benchmarking prior to commiting to the configuration *and* rehearsing
what to do when a drive fails so that you get no surprises later on when one
does. Get a hot spare. I believe hitachi has a new 400GB drive out...

Multiple drive failures do occur in raid 5 so be aware and do have some form
of backup.

This review may be handy:

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=9500s4lp&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1

- Tim


"SNC" <me@bitemeyouspammer.com> wrote in message
news:10bvpasespifv93@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanx guys... will research the different forms of raid... but sounds like
> Raid-5 is the answer....
>
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b29a7666c8d23ec98a5e1@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
>> In article <10bvj9s9ovkq209@corp.supernews.com>, me@bitemeyouspammer.com
>> says...
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Get a Promise SX6000 RAID card and you can have 6 x 250GB drives
>> > > installed in a hardware RAID 5 setting - that gives you over 1TB of
>> > > space.
>> > >
>> > is is possible to put two cards on one machine.... once again, im
> looking
>> > for maximum data protection.... 1TB "mirrored" (2TB total)
>>
>> RAID 5 is the best protection and method for your solution. A mirror
>> would waste a ton of space and not provide any more protection. The Raid
>> 5 array will provide better reads on a busy server.
>>
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>> spamfree999@rrohio.com
>> (Remove 999 to reply to me)
>
>
 
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