Build Advice Building a new PC and retiring my old one (almost) ?

[CluelessPCGamer]

Hi everyone

So I've been using my current gaming PC for 10 years now, built it in 2014 with all the bells and whistles at the time. I've upgraded the GPU a couple of times, which did extend its' lifespan quite a bit. My current PC has a i7 4770k, RTX 3070, 16GB DDR3, ASUS Maximus Formula VI mobo, and a 750W PSU. For most of those 10 years, it has been performing fine, but in the past 2 years, its' age has become increasingly apparent, and I need to build a new one. I haven't been playing that close attention to what's the latest and greatest in PC components, so I'd really appreciate if someone more knowledgable about PCs than me, would review the build I have in mind. Except for grabbing the 3070 from my old PC and putting it in the new one, I'll be sparing no expense on hardware, so that the new PC can hopefully also last me close to a decade.

New build idea:

ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H
Corsair RM1000x Shift 1000W PSU
i9 14900k
RTX 3070 (Will use my old GPU for now, it still has some miles left on it)
Lian Li Galahad 2 AIO cooler
2x G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5-7200 RAM
Samsung NVME 990 Pro 2TB SSD
Fractal Design North case

What do you guys think? Can this build last me for the next 10 years?

EDIT: I should mention, that I play on a 2k Gigabyte ultrawide monitor.

 

[Why_Me]

Hi everyone

So I've been using my current gaming PC for 10 years now, built it in 2014 with all the bells and whistles at the time. I've upgraded the GPU a couple of times, which did extend its' lifespan quite a bit. My current PC has a i7 4770k, RTX 3070, 16GB DDR3, ASUS Maximus Formula VI mobo, and a 750W PSU. For most of those 10 years, it has been performing fine, but in the past 2 years, its' age has become increasingly apparent, and I need to build a new one. I haven't been playing that close attention to what's the latest and greatest in PC components, so I'd really appreciate if someone more knowledgable about PCs than me, would review the build I have in mind. Except for grabbing the 3070 from my old PC and putting it in the new one, I'll be sparing no expense on hardware, so that the new PC can hopefully also last me close to a decade.

New build idea:

ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H
Corsair RM1000x Shift 1000W PSU
i9 14900k
RTX 3070 (Will use my old GPU for now, it still has some miles left on it)
Lian Li Galahad 2 AIO cooler
2x G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5-7200 RAM
Samsung NVME 990 Pro 2TB SSD
Fractal Design North case

What do you guys think? Can this build last me for the next 10 years?

EDIT: I should mention, that I play on a 2k Gigabyte ultrawide monitor.

What's your budget and what country are you located?

 

[CluelessPCGamer]

What's your budget and what country are you located?

I'm thinking a max of $2500 and I'm from Denmark.

 

[Why_Me]

I'm thinking a max of $2500 and I'm from Denmark.

A few things. The 14900K works best with a 420 AIO (360 at the least) and that Fractal North case isn't really meant for a water cooling setup. If using air cooling I would look at a locked i7. Same amount of P-cores as the i9 and four less E-cores and those E-cores don't really do much for gaming. It's possible to make this build more expensive by changing the motherboard but this motherboard has pretty much all the latest and greatest features: PCIe 5.0 for both graphics card and SSD and a 4080 audio codec. You could change the cpu cooler to a Deepcool AK620 Dark if you wanted better aesthetics. That 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for an exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor (3331.00kr @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (573.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (2123.00kr @ Computersalg)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (974.00kr @ Proshop)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (1318.00kr @ Dustin Home)
Case: *Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (1129.00kr @ Proshop)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (1099.00kr @ Proshop)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (80.00kr @ Computersalg)
Total: 10627.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-21 10:32 CEST+0200

A better look at those components,

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-MAX-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-33m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://seasonic.com/atx3-focus-gx

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...formance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/980pro/

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K

https://www.arctic.de/en/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A

 

[Why_Me]

This cpu currently owns the gaming crown not to mention it runs much cooler than the 14 gen Intel cpu's. Changes to the cpu, motherboard and RAM.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (2989.00kr @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (573.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard: *Asus ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (3190.00kr @ Proshop)
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (957.00kr @ Computersalg)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (1318.00kr @ Dustin Home)
Case: *Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (1129.00kr @ Proshop)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (1099.00kr @ Proshop)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (80.00kr @ Computersalg)
Total: 11335.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-21 10:41 CEST+0200

A better look at that cpu, board and RAM.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x670e-f-gaming-wifi-model/

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

 

[Niklas_13]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity Performance 108.29 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($169.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($279.00 @ MSI)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower Case ($175.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1000 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1481.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-21 05:10 EDT-0400

 

[CluelessPCGamer]

Wow! Thank you guys so much for the excellent advice! I'll be looking into these builds!

 

[CluelessPCGamer]

This cpu currently owns the gaming crown not to mention it runs much cooler than the 14 gen Intel cpu's. Changes to the cpu, motherboard and RAM.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (2989.00kr @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (573.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard: *Asus ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (3190.00kr @ Proshop)
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (957.00kr @ Computersalg)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (1318.00kr @ Dustin Home)
Case: *Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (1129.00kr @ Proshop)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (1099.00kr @ Proshop)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (80.00kr @ Computersalg)
Total: 11335.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-21 10:41 CEST+0200

A better look at that cpu, board and RAM.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x670e-f-gaming-wifi-model/

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

Quick question in regards to AMD. I haven't had AMD since the early 2000's, how do they hold up nowadays in terms of longevity? I've been using Intel since I got a Core 2 Duo way back in the day, and I've been surprised at how well they've held up their performance and manufactorer support over the years, is AMD the same in this regard?

 

[Why_Me]

Quick question in regards to AMD. I haven't had AMD since the early 2000's, how do they hold up nowadays in terms of longevity? I've been using Intel since I got a Core 2 Duo way back in the day, and I've been surprised at how well they've held up their performance and manufactorer support over the years, is AMD the same in this regard?

I'm a hardcore Intel + Nvidia fan since the C2D days myself. AMD found a way to stack cache without pushing the power and heat. Intel is still the go to cpu for productivity and streaming games but for pure gaming this 7800x3D cpu can't be beat.

This news was published yesterday.
https://www.techpowerup.com/321717/...rboards-now-support-next-gen-ryzen-processors

 

[CluelessPCGamer]

I'm a hardcore Intel + Nvidia fan since the C2D days myself. AMD found a way to stack cache without pushing the power and heat. Intel is still the go to cpu for productivity and streaming games but for pure gaming this 7800x3D cpu can't be beat.

This news was published yesterday.
https://www.techpowerup.com/321717/...rboards-now-support-next-gen-ryzen-processors

Oh! Didn't realize that. I mostly do gaming on my desktop, occassionally I do some Photoshop/Illustrator work when I work from home and forget the laptop, but my old computer could handle that workload just fine.

I'll get back with what I go with later on. Thanks again for the advice, to both of you

 

[ohio_buckeye]

When amd released the 1st gen ryzen CPUs in 2017, I think it was like a 40% performance increase from the FX lineup they had before and they never looked back. They keep improving but for me personally I went with Intel this last build due to budget. Plus I’d always had amd boxes since the late 90s, so trying out something new. But the newer amd stuff is pretty good.

 

[Niklas_13]

When amd released the 1st gen ryzen CPUs in 2017, I think it was like a 40% performance increase from the FX lineup they had before and they never looked back. They keep improving but for me personally I went with Intel this last build due to budget. Plus I’d always had amd boxes since the late 90s, so trying out something new. But the newer amd stuff is pretty good.

I agree AMD has come a long way.
I would go both ways for the CPU. For the GPU I won't buy AMD.... I gave it a shot and tried to like them but after two 7800xt that ran like shit for 15 mins to? I guess the shader cash loads no ty. bought a 4070 ti super no problems at all.

running a i7 14700K - 4070 ti super @ 2K
Kids AMD Ryzen 7 7700x 4070 OC 1080p

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I guess I haven’t experienced the amd gpu issues you had. I’ve got an rx 6800xt currently, had a few amd cards before that but I’ve owned some nvidia cards in my time also. I actually had an rtx 3080 for a while but needed the money at the time and sold it to pay some bills. Just my 2 cents but I’ve come to the conclusion that I think I like the amd cards a little better. But really either one are usually decent choices.

 

[geofelt]

Quick question in regards to AMD. I haven't had AMD since the early 2000's, how do they hold up nowadays in terms of longevity? I've been using Intel since I got a Core 2 Duo way back in the day, and I've been surprised at how well they've held up their performance and manufactorer support over the years, is AMD the same in this regard?

On a price/performance basis, AMD and Intel are comparable.
Reading this forum, I find more issues with ryzen, vs. intel, particularly in the ram compatibility area.

Your list will work.
My thoughts:

You specify 2x G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5-7200 RAM.
If you want 64gb, buy a single 64gb kit comprised of two 32gb matched sticks.
Unmatched ram does not always work well.
Intel, unlike ryzen does not need fast ram for performance. You could go slower.

I9-14900K is a very good chip.
For pure gaming, the amd X3D chips put a ton of cache into one core and makes gaming very good.
But, at the expense of other normal work.

No longer can you get something for nothing by overclocking.
Parts are binned and better parts are sold in higher performing processors.
That is not all bad, The turbo mechanism can boost a core or two past what an oc can do.
Very good for games. Sometimes motherboard bios will exceed Intel specs causing issues.

Do not fall for temperature alarmist posts. Liquid cooling is probably not needed.
Here is a report on intel high end performance with less than top coolers:
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-core-13900k-cooling-tested
Or a report on temperature while gaming:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc


You would do fine with a top air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15s at half the price.

And, do not count on an aio lasting 10 years.
Most likely 5. Air will intrude through the tubes, or the mechanical pump will fail or get clogged requiring replacement.