Building my first pc!

noelaits

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so, im gonna build my first gaming pc, my budget is $650.
the parts i picked are

CPU: Intel core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA- B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA 1150

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" HDD

Video card: MSI Radeon R6 380 4GB

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze certified ATX


What do you think? Should i change something or are the parts ok? and how do you think modern games will run on this PC?


 
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I actually recommend the i5 4460 over both of them. Overclocking is a waste of time and money. Skylake is expensive for practically no performance increase.



I recommend these parts for maximum bang for buck.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB ITX Compact Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB ITX Compact Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $609.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-02 14:59 EST-0500
 
That CPU is not a good choice / match for that board ... hers one that does and allows 2 GFX cards
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xsli

The PSU is not a good quality unit, tho you don't nee the power, this is a steal at $49. And it goves you the ability to add a 2nd 380 down the road and extend system life another 18-24 months
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

With no SSD (and remember the SSD only helps games actually on the SSD) ... a 250 GB SSD will fit OS and maybe 3 AAA games..... Id highly recommend a SSHD
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx001
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx001
 
If you buy a "K" suffix processor, you should buy a motherboard that permits overclocking. B85 will not.

With skylake now available, I think one should do a new build using the latest tech.

For most games, I think you would be better served with a i3-6100, a lga1151 motherboard and DDR4 ram.
 


thank you, but why is the CPU not a good match for that board? is the CPU bad or the board?

 
I don't think Skylake is worth almost $50 more. Performance would be pretty much identical. I would stick with my i5 4460 build above.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB ITX Compact Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $657.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-02 15:30 EST-0500
 
The B85 is not a good match because you are leaving some 25% 4690K performance on the table by not enabling overclocking.

My thoughts on the other items differ:

1. I like the cheaper M-ATX size motherboards, and put little value in cf/sli unless you are planning on fast action gaming on a 4k monitor.
Here is my canned rant on planning for dual cards:
-----------------------------Start of rant----------------------------------------------------
Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.

a) How good do you really need to be?
A single GTX750t1 or R7-265 can give you decent performance at 1920 x 1200 in many games.
Yes, you may need to be satisfied with less than high settings.

A single GTX970 or R9-390X will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
Even 2560 x 1600 will be OK with lowered detail.
A single GTX980ti is about as good as it gets for a single card.

If you are looking at triple monitor gaming, or a 4k monitor, sli/cf will be needed for excellent frame rates.
A single GTX980ti or Furyx will give good frame rates in many games.
Next year, it looks like single card performance will go up by 50%

b) The support costs for a single card are lower.
You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
Even a ITX motherboard will do.

Your psu costs are less.
A card as good as a R9-FURY or a GTX980ti will need only a 620w psu.
When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 200w to your psu requirements.
75w for the slot, 75w for an extra 6 pin connector or possibly more.
Here is a chart:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
That means a larger and possibly expensive case with more and stronger fans.
You will also look at more noise.

c) Dual gpu's do not always render their half of the display in sync, causing microstuttering or screen tearing. It is an annoying effect.
The benefit of higher benchmark fps can be offset, particularly with lower tier cards.
Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html

d) dual gpu support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.

e) dual cards up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
-------------------------------End of rant-----------------------------------------------------------

2. I do agree on buying only a good quality psu. Tier 1 or 2 from a list such as this.
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true
Here is a handy chart to size a PSU:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say 20%.
It will run cooler, quieter, and more efficiently in the middle third of it's range.
A PSU will only use the wattage demanded of it, regardless of it's max capability.

3. FWIW.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, you may never need a hard drive.

I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice.

And... WD is considered as more reliable than Seagate.

SSHD drives are OK in a laptop when you can only have one drive and need a large capacity.
But, a SSHD will not have enough NAND to make it anywhere as effective as a true SSD.

If you have a need for bulk storage of large files such as videos, then that is a good application for a hard drive.

 


i chose this motherboard because it was cheap, i dont plan to overclock because i dont know how to do it and i dont wanna break anything. also im not planing on using dual gpu.
i will consider buying a SSD but i do want the 1TB hard drive to store stuff. also im not planing on using dual gpu.
and i changed the psu to Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
 


i dont have any issue with your build, i was just asking for opinions on different parts.
why did you go for the i5-6500 instead of the i5-4690k?
 
I actually recommend the i5 4460 over both of them. Overclocking is a waste of time and money. Skylake is expensive for practically no performance increase.



I recommend these parts for maximum bang for buck.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB ITX Compact Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $609.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-02 18:44 EST-0500
 
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