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As I said really depends where you want to be. You can always get the nicer monitor and other good components and start with the cheaper gpu. From what you’ve said almost any upgrade is going to be a better setup than your current. It just boils down to what you have to spend.

Tossing this question out to the rest of the room yes the CPU is a bit slower but what about picking up a ryzen 5 5500 and a cheap am4 board in order to upgrade the gpu budget?

At 1440p your CPU speed is a little less important. But that bundle seems decent.
 
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12600k at that price is unbeatable. That single core performance will help out quite a bit for now, still room to drop in an i7-14700k when that goes on sale.

I have a 1440p monitor and a 3080Ti. I can't get close to 180 FPS in recent games. 144+ is like 4080/4090/7900XT/7900XTX, the top tier cards. Basically what you are spending on the whole system. Those same cards are lucky to get 80-100 FPS at 4K.

1440p is going to be like 60-70 FPS with a RX7600, today. In a few years time it will be much less. But by then a mid-range GPU will be the same rough price but faster. Trying to stay on the cutting edge is expensive.

1080p 144 FPS is well within the capabilities of an RX7600. And of course it depends wildly on the game. Generally we look at high GPU usage titles in GPU reviews, and for CPU reviews they look at low GPU usage titles. You are well set for CS2, Fortnite, Rocket League, etc. The AAA story drive titles and things like Starfield and Cyberpunk will be closer to that 60-70 FPS when you push for the eye candy.
 
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thanks for all your advice I guess Im going to spend all my money on the rig you built for me then... I miss the days when computer gaming wasnt so expensive
 
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Maximuzzm said:
thanks for all your advice I guess Im going to spend all my money on the rig you built for me then... I miss the days when computer gaming wasnt so expensive
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When was that :)

We just got lucky that prices stayed the same while performance went up for an uninterrupted period of about 10 years. You go back far enough and PC anything was horrendously expensive. Basically just getting back to where it used to be.

That would be $3,773 with inflation.

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Eximo said:
They are great until they aren't. The hardware is there, the support, not so much.

On newer games they do very well. DX12, Vulkan works great. The newer drivers also work pretty well with many older DX titles.

However, sometimes it just doesn't work and until Intel gets around to fixing it, there are some games that just don't run. AMD is the safer option unless you like to tinker.

I picked up an A380 to keep an eye on the drivers, the driver installer alone is still buggy and doesn't work most of the time. I have to manually extract it, point Windows to the driver, and then manually install the latest Arc Control app.

Hopefully Battlemage is better at launch than Alchemist.
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I've been trying to find a reason to pick one up, I don't want to pick one up for a build thats going to go for sale, because its not mature enough and I will have to support it. I don't have a family member, or friend in immediate need of an upgrade, and I dont have a build around the house that could use an upgrade. Those A770's keep staring at me though, and I just cant justify it yet lol. Who knows, maybe ill just pickup one or two in a few years in box and keep them around for testing.
 
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back when I could just buy a rig on craiglist for $100 and be ok. When you could play world of warcraft with a pentium 4 and no gpu. Now days its all about frames and trying to get to 4k. Not to mention VR and where all thats going to go in the future.
 
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Eximo said:
When was that :)

We just got lucky that prices stayed the same while performance went up for an uninterrupted period of about 10 years. You go back far enough and PC anything was horrendously expensive. Basically just getting back to where it used to be.

That would be $3,773 with inflation.

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To be fair workstation pricing is still around that 4k mark to get a decent non top of the line threadripper together from an oem, the mass market is a different story though.
 
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To put it back in perspective since the op is on a 720 screen now I’d consider going 1080p. It won’t be as hard for the hardware to run it. If you wanted you could get the 1440 screen and dial back into 1080p. But later as you save money you could always pick up a better card and sell the one you buy now to recoup a little. At least that way though you’d be set for the future in most areas.

But even going to high refresh 1080p vs 60hz 720p should seem amazing and then you’ll still have an upgrade path.
 
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and its a 36 inch screen... kind of annoying... with the given build I should be able to run 1440p at 60 frames at least. Which like you said isnt bad.

and I should be able to upgrade later with this sick 200$ mobo im basically getting for free in the bundle
 
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stuff keeps evolving hard to keep up.. ive been building and repairing my own pcs for years now thanks to the help from this site glad to see its still doing good
 
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Eximo says even with the RX7600 @ 1080p I will barely be over 60fps running certain titles like starfield and cyberpunk and I can believe it those games seem nxt level.... I have to at least get an rx7600 if thats the case
 
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You can always turn things down a smidge. A few years ago there were even videos saying how running ultra settings is dumb. In many games once you get to high settings there isn’t always a lot of graphical difference between high settings and ultra.

But the 7600 is a decent card. You may see if you can find an rx 6700xt cheaper though. Even though that’s a generation older it would have been a tier up from the 6600 so may be comparable to the 7600 if not a little faster and a bit of extra video ram.
 
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Am thinking of going with the RX 6700 XT I read its a good budget card for 1440p gaming for only 40$ more

Read some reddit comments everyone says it runs smooth at 1440. Only costs 300 on amazon

they also said 1080p is like living in the stone age or something like that... its reddit so ofc take it with a grain of salt
 
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My first computer back in the day was a Commodore 64 when I was 5. My first pc was an amd k6 200mhz with 32mb of ram running windows 95.

My first new gpu was an S3 savage 32mb gpu made by Diamond multimedia. Over 20 years back. How time flies.

Let us know what you end up buying. To be honest though if you’re looking at a 6700xt, Newegg has a vanilla rx 6800 16gb card for 379 now. So I’d consider if you’re spending another 40 at least consider it. Of course the other part of that is you might need a little bigger psu. But if you’re set on gaming at 1440p and are laying money down it’s worth at least looking.

One bad thing about pc gaming is you always keep looking at the next part up asking how much do I gain if I spend a little more…lol

I did have a 6700xt at one time and not a bad card but if you ever go to like a 6800xt or higher, different tier and more smoothness at 1440p

This will give an idea

View: https://youtu.be/KcZppv4DmcQ?feature=shared
 
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Maximuzzm said:
Im building a gaming pc. I need a new everything. Just trying to build the best one for my price range . Im willing to spend about $750.

The local microcenter has this bundle going on. I get a processor, mobo, 16gb ram all for $250.

Intel Core i5-12600KF Alder Lake 3.7GHz Ten-Core LGA 1700 Boxed Processor​

msi z790-p pro wifi gdr4 - mobo

and 16gb ram (not sure which one was included)

I get all of this for $250.. is this a good deal and what I should go with? if so what gpu should I use? Also I have 1 tb SSD but its not 4th gen, idk what gen it is, will I be able to use this still or will I need a new SSD as well?

Feel free to post your ~$750 build.... if you can manage to fit a monitor into that budget that would be awesome

Keep in mind I am poor and wouldnt mind spending less money. I just really am tired of my current rig at this point. Its basically a toaster now. so is my 60 hz 36inch samsung tv I use as a monitor

I already have windows 10

Thanks in advance.. any advice on what components to go with helps
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With the CPU it has 6 hyperthreaded performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

If its for gaming then that is overkill. You won`t utilise it all for another decade. You could save money by having the 15-12400 which just has the 6 hyperthreaded performance cores. If that is something you decide to do that`s your motherboard cost cut too.

Gaming is mostly still at quad core, and over the years things have been moving very slowly towards higher core counts.

If you`re after a pc that is still going to be gaming a decade from now then an i5-12600kf is fine, but if you buy the components separate instead of a bundle you`re likely to get them cheaper. You don`t really need to overclock it, you could save there too as it would allow you to cheap out on the motherboard.

Your GPU (including what you may upgrade it too during the PCs life) should be the sole determining factor for your monitor. If you aren`t buying a GPU that can do 1440p or 4k, or higher than 60hz then you wont see any benefit. You need to match your monitor choice to your GPU and future GPU choices.

Windows 10 you should be able to recycle if you got a retail version. If not, Kinguin does license keys for under £10.
 
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RaidHobbit said:
With the CPU it has 6 hyperthreaded performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

If its for gaming then that is overkill. You won`t utilise it all for another decade. You could save money by having the 15-12400 which just has the 6 hyperthreaded performance cores. If that is something you decide to do that`s your motherboard cost cut too.

Gaming is mostly still at quad core, and over the years things have been moving very slowly towards higher core counts.

If you`re after a pc that is still going to be gaming a decade from now then an i5-12600kf is fine, but if you buy the components separate instead of a bundle you`re likely to get them cheaper. You don`t really need to overclock it, you could save there too as it would allow you to cheap out on the motherboard.

Your GPU (including what you may upgrade it too during the PCs life) should be the sole determining factor for your monitor. If you aren`t buying a GPU that can do 1440p or 4k, or higher than 60hz then you wont see any benefit. You need to match your monitor choice to your GPU and future GPU choices.

Windows 10 you should be able to recycle if you got a retail version. If not, Kinguin does license keys for under £10.
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I definitely would like to keep my rig for over a decade lol. I have a 1st generation i7 and it's the best chip I can put in my mobo...with ddr3 ram. It's a terrible feeling...i7 2nd generation cpu is so trash I see what a bad cpu does I'd definitely like one that's overkill just to stick it to my i7. 12000kf is like 150$ on Amazon not that much.

If I don't go with that bundle and don't need that mobo for overclocking. What's mobo should I go with and what cpu
 
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Maximuzzm said:
I definitely would like to keep my rig for over a decade lol. I have a 1st generation i7 and it's the best chip I can put in my mobo...with ddr3 ram. It's a terrible feeling...i7 2nd generation cpu is so trash I see what a bad cpu does I'd definitely like one that's overkill just to stick it to my i7. 12000kf is like 150$ on Amazon not that much.

If I don't go with that bundle and don't need that mobo for overclocking. What's mobo should I go with and what cpu
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MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi DDR4 Computer Gaming Motherboard​

I always use this mobo , never had a problem with it
 
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