Question Can’t open most things in Windows anymore, even sound not working ?

[ashtekaros]

Im really sorry for pestering the forum . but through the idiots of portuguese microsoft assistance, i may have really messed up my pc.

the windows assistant gave some "assistance" to mainline users (im not a tech) to mess with the HKEY REGISTRIES

i fear i may have EXCLUDED the user from permissions through the HKEY REGISTRY by mistake .

NO PERMISSION AND NO APP ASSOCIATED . when i click some icons.

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Im ok with a windows and system reinstall now Program reinstallation and all that. DONE BY A TECH STORE, NOT MYSELF.



my concern now is if iits possiblt to SALVAGE THE MEMORY FROM THE HARD DISK.

 

[ashtekaros]

Stop messing with this system. Further messing around can make the situation worse than it already is.

Right now, you need to do TWO things.

1. Get all of your personal data copied off to some other drive.

2. A full wipe and reinstall of the OS and applications.


One or both of those may involve some paid assistance.

from what you said i should:

1: Get the PC to a tech

2: instruct him to copy the data to a temporary HDD he may have and ask him to do a backup on the HDD (will this preserve the old memory)?

3: full wipe apps of the OS and applications on the old HDD (Formatting?)

4: re-copy back hdd data to old pc HDD (Same effect as a regular backup? preservation ?)

is this correct ?

 

[USAFRet]

from what you said i should:

1: Get the PC to a tech

2: instruct him to copy the data to a temporary HDD he may have and ask him to do a backup on the HDD (will this preserve the old memory)?

3: full wipe apps of the OS and applications on the old HDD (Formatting?)

4: re-copy back hdd data to old pc HDD (Same effect as a regular backup?)

2. He is to copy ONLY your personal files. Music, docs, pics,...that sort of thing.
Not the Libraries.

3. He will (hopefully) know how to do this. This includes reinstalling all of your applications.

4. No, that is NOT the same as a backup. But yes, your personal files get copied back into the new OS.



Later, you need to consider a real backup routine. Not just 'once in a while', or 'take it to a shop for them to do it'.

 

[Colif]

Copy the info off the PC using either Ubuntu or put drive in another PC

Clean install of windows, with tech copying your data back on after.

He can't save applications but should be able to save most of your data.

 

[ashtekaros]

2. He is to copy ONLY your personal files. Music, docs, pics,...that sort of thing.
Not the Libraries.
.

Considering that he is not to copy libraries will these be preserved ?

1: filles in the bigger user folder

2:documents

3:folders and filers in c:/downloads at "my computer folder" (also know as "this computer")

4:some other backup archives on "my computer" folder (also know as "this computer"). archives and files linked to user.

5:saved games ,files and documents

6: apps,icons,folders and programs on desktop area (i usually keep them to know what apps to reinstall, such as games and kaspersky )

 

[USAFRet]

Considering that he is not to copy libraries will these be preserved ?

1: filles in the bigger user folder

2:documents

3:folders and filers in c:/downloads at "my computer folder" (also know as "this computer")

4:some other backup archives on "my computer" folder (also know as "this computer"). archives and files linked to user.

5:saved games ,files and documents

6: apps,icons,folders and programs on desktop area (i usually keep them to know what apps to reinstall, such as games and kaspersky )

1 - 5, probably.
6, unknown, because we out here do not know exactly what you have there.

But herein lies a basic problem with having 'other people' try to safeguard your data.
They might miss something.

 

[DSzymborski]

Another option is to remove the drive, stick it in an enclosure, and hook it up to another PC, and see if you can move the files of the drive yourself.

If you have stuff stored haphazardly all over the place, it's going to be up to you to tell the tech where it is, or provide them another drive to copy everything to.

And when you are done stop messing with Windows. It's bad enough you have been negligent in your PC upkeep by not having backups, but there are multiple threads of you trying to mess with Windows on top of that, whether it was changing your userapps location because you didn't like how the ID looked or removing recommended apps. You were advised to back up your files before doing anything and told exactly how to do it on multiple occasions (and not "restore points" as you did).

It's frustrating because all of this was completely avoidable. It's not the "idiots of Portuguese Microsoft Assistance" that got you here, it's the choices you made. You talk about "8 years" of memories stored on your computer, but at no point did you actually treat these files as important.

Sorry for the stern talk, but whether or not you save your data this time or not, if you don't change your approach to how you manage the computer, by making safety the priority rather than artlessly altering things you're not qualified to, you're going to find yourself in this same position over and over again.

 

[ashtekaros]

Another option is to remove the drive, stick it in an enclosure, and hook it up to another PC, and see if you can move the files of the drive yourself.

If you have stuff stored haphazardly all over the place, it's going to be up to you to tell the tech where it is, or provide them another drive to copy everything to.

And when you are done stop messing with Windows. It's bad enough you have been negligent in your PC upkeep by not having backups, but there are multiple threads of you trying to mess with Windows on top of that, whether it was changing your userapps location because you didn't like how the ID looked or removing recommended apps. You were advised to back up your files before doing anything and told exactly how to do it on multiple occasions (and not "restore points" as you did).

It's frustrating because all of this was completely avoidable. It's not the "idiots of Portuguese Microsoft Assistance" that got you here, it's the choices you made. You talk about "8 years" of memories stored on your computer, but at no point did you actually treat these files as important.

Sorry for the stern talk, but whether or not you save your data this time or not, if you don't change your approach to how you manage the computer, by making safety the priority rather than artlessly altering things you're not qualified to, you're going to find yourself in this same position over and over again.

The Problem is that i have only one HDD on my pc. i plan on march or april to buy a SDD and use the HDD to store some data.

im also very sorry for taking the time of the forum. this year there was a struck of bad luck for me regarding the computer components and other problems. had to wait some months to get spare money replace some pc broken components, such as gpu. before this year my posts were not that common.

worst part of this is that a tech i sent the pc to repair the motherboard (wont send to this one again) had no necessity at all to reinstall the system, as the problem that was making pc speed slow and broke my Motherboard USBS had nothing to do with the system, but with pc energy (power supply, that i already replace by one of 650 w buying online).

 

[ashtekaros]

Another option is to remove the drive, stick it in an enclosure, and hook it up to another PC, and see if you can move the files of the drive yourself.

If you have stuff stored haphazardly all over the place, it's going to be up to you to tell the tech where it is, or provide them another drive to copy everything to.

And when you are done stop messing with Windows. It's bad enough you have been negligent in your PC upkeep by not having backups, but there are multiple threads of you trying to mess with Windows on top of that, whether it was changing your userapps location because you didn't like how the ID looked or removing recommended apps. You were advised to back up your files before doing anything and told exactly how to do it on multiple occasions (and not "restore points" as you did).

It's frustrating because all of this was completely avoidable. It's not the "idiots of Portuguese Microsoft Assistance" that got you here, it's the choices you made. You talk about "8 years" of memories stored on your computer, but at no point did you actually treat these files as important.

Sorry for the stern talk, but whether or not you save your data this time or not, if you don't change your approach to how you manage the computer, by making safety the priority rather than artlessly altering things you're not qualified to, you're going to find yourself in this same position over and over again.

the problems im having with not being able to do proper config of the taskbar are not related to the repaired motherboard right ?

just to confirm.

 

[USAFRet]

The Problem is that i have only one HDD on my pc. i plan on march or april to buy a SDD and use the HDD to store some data.

The "problem" is actually 3 fold:

1. Not having a known good personal backup routine

2. Messing with Windows settings and functionality, when you don't really know what you're doing

3. Trusting incompetent techs

 

[ashtekaros]

3. He will (hopefully) know how to do this. This includes reinstalling all of your applications.

4. No, that is NOT the same as a backup. But yes, your personal files get copied back into the new OS.



Later, you need to consider a real backup routine. Not just 'once in a while', or 'take it to a shop for them to do it'.

3 and 4) you mean after he copy the Memory of my computer (HDD) to his temporary HDD he will have to format my pc ?

after that he will re-copy the memory of his HDD to mine again ?

will he be able to acess files on his copied HDD and will i be able to acess files on my re-copied HDD ?

 

[USAFRet]

he will have to format my pc

At this point, your OS is in such a state as to require a full wipe and reinstall.
So yes, 'format' is a part of the full reinstall.

As for your existing data, hopefully he can access it and copy it to something else.
Assuming, of course, he is not an incompetent boob.

 

[DSzymborski]

The Problem is that i have only one HDD on my pc. i plan on march or april to buy a SDD and use the HDD to store some data.

There are many sites online that offer free cloud storage that you can use to store your most important data. Safely backing up your data should be coming before anything else, certainly upgrading to Windows 10 Pro and absolutely before tinkering with your registry for no good reason.

 

[ashtekaros]

As for your existing data, hopefully he can access it and copy it to something else.
Assuming, of course, he is not an incompetent boob.

1) when you copy the data in the state it is now (blocked permission for user through HKEY REGISTRY) to a new HDD, does it generally work and he can acess stuff ?

Will the re-copied HDD (back into my original HDD) of the tech work in the same way as a backup ?

2) Should he COPY or CLONE the datas ?

3) From what i understand he needs to copy to his pc and then copy to mine as well (not clone), right ?

4) just for security. if a HDD has 930 GB of space can it be safely copied without problems to one that has 1 or 2 TB ? Can it be safely copied to a SDD of 1 or 2 TB a well ?

 

[USAFRet]

1) when you copy the data in the state it is now (blocked permission for user through HKEY REGISTRY) to a new HDD, does it generally work and he can acess stuff ?

Will the re-copied HDD (back into my original HDD) of the tech work in the same way as a backup ?

2) Should he COPY or CLONE the datas ?

3) From what i understand he needs to copy to his pc and then copy to mine as well (not clone), right ?

4) just for security. if a HDD has 930 GB of space can it be safely copied without problems to one that has 1 or 2 TB ? Can it be safely copied to a SDD of 1 or 2 TB a well ?

1. Unknown, because we out here do not know the true state of this system.

2. You can't "clone" parts of it. Let the semi-comptent tech do his thing. Don't confuse him with irrelevant functions.

3. See #2

4. Yes, and See #2.



Stop messing with this system.
Take it to someone that sort of has a clue, and can hopefully fix it. And maybe with your data intact.
You're not going to be doing this repair, so asking questions as to "how" is irrelevant.

 

[ashtekaros]

1. Unknown, because we out here do not know the true state of this system.

2. You can't "clone" parts of it. Let the semi-comptent tech do his thing. Don't confuse him with irrelevant functions.

3. See #2

4. Yes, and See #2.



Stop messing with this system.
Take it to someone that sort of has a clue, and can hopefully fix it. And maybe with your data intact.
You're not going to be doing this repair, so asking questions as to "how" is irrelevant.

im not asking to do this myself. im asking to know what to ask the tech to do in order to avoid bad instructions on what he should do.

i already turned off the pc and im using the notebook.

1) Most of the time this fix will work, if its just the registry that its the problem ?

2 to 4) so the answer is to copy, not to clone, right ?

 

[USAFRet]

im not asking to it myself. im asking to know what to ask the tech to do in order to avoid bad instructions on what he should do.

i already turned off the pc and im using the notebook.

1) Most of the time will it work, if its just the registry that its the problem ?

2 to 4) so the answer is to copy, not to clone, right ?

You need to tell him 2 things, in this order:
1. Save my personal data

2. Fix the PC so it runs properly.

How he does that is irrelevant to you.
Same as you do not instruct the car mechanic how to diagnose and fix your brakes. or the plumber how to fix a leaky faucet.

 

[ashtekaros]

You need to tell him 2 things, in this order:
1. Save my personal data

2. Fix the PC so it runs properly.

How he does that is irrelevant to you.
Same as you do not instruct the car mechanic how to diagnose and fix your brakes. or the plumber how to fix a leaky faucet.

if the problem is just the registry, you think this copying fix generally works ?

ok, but you implied it is to copy not to clone , from what i understand.

just confirm if these are right please.

 

[USAFRet]

if the problem is just the registry, you think this fix generally works ?

ok, but you implied it is to copy not to clone , from what i understand.

just confirm if these are right please.

I implied neither copy nor clone.

If you brought it to me, I would do both.
A full drive clone, so that we have a good fall back point, and can start over if needed.
Then, go through, find and copy all the personal data we're looking for. Copy to yet another drive.


But...if you brought that PC to me and said "You need to do X Y and Z because some guy on the interwebs said so..."
I would ignore him and you, and actually diagnose, then actually fix the problem.

 

[ashtekaros]

do these copying fixes generally work ?

 

[USAFRet]

do these copying fixes generally work ?

The "copying" is not "the fix".
That is to merely safeguard your personal data.

The "fix" is the full wipe and reinstall of a completely messed up OS.

 

[ashtekaros]

ok. im going for now

The "copying" is not "the fix".
That is to merely safeguard your personal data.

The "fix" is the full wipe and reinstall of a completely messed up OS.

ok. sorry for the inconvenience and thanks a lot.

i will ask the techs i know if they have knowledge concerning that stuff.

this forum is a Cultural Human Heritage.

 

[USAFRet]

This sign is relevant:

 

[ashtekaros]

i talked with a Tech by (phone for now) and he said he did a symilar procedure before and understands how its done.

hopefully it will work. as the good techs in my city are no that good .

 

[ashtekaros]

One thing that i need to know before the tech doing the repair (Maybe i Have to buy a new motherboard since the former tech repaired my current Motherboard . He did the repair before windows presented confiig problems , but all USBS were not working and all but one USBS returned working correcly) .

the PROBLEMS I MENTIONED BEFORE messing with the HKEY REGISTRY permissions :

1: SEARCH BAR not being able to be configured

2: SEARCH BAR not searching lots of internal data of my memory HDD

2: Microsoft Edge Trending Searches and most used apps fixed permanently on the Activities bar, even if edge history cleaned and ege completely unisntalled.

4: Some windows Configurations not woking as they should.

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Are the above problems RELATED TO A BAD WINDOWS PROGRAM AND INSTALLATION ?

OR

Are these problems RELATED TO A DEFECTIVE MOTHERBOARD ?

Motherboard returned with a frontal USB not working from the former tech that repaired it (previously all were not working).

If the above problems are related to the motherboard guess im fine with buying a new one. although quite expensive.

 

[USAFRet]

These "problems" are almost certainly related to all the screwing around you've done in the current OS.