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"...based on feedback I've received from Mac users..."

Now there's an objective group. {;->

Rocky

"Pat" <pkelecy@insightbb*no_spam*.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
> news😱%0Lc.41761$5Y.40222@cyclops.nntpserver.com...
> > Pat, I'm sure you're a fine person and mean well, but on the subject of
> > malware, you have much to learn. Don't learn it the hard way.
> >
>
> Unfortunately, I have already learned the hard way! I recently picked up
a
> CoolWebSearch trogan which neither Ad-aware or Spybot S&D could remove.
> After two days of digging into it I finally was able to manually remove
it.
> It was a real pain though. Admittedly, my security setting on IE were too
> low (still at the default values) so I had really set myseft up for that.
I
> have since switch to Mozilla Firefox (very nice browser) and so far havn't
> encountered any another problems.
>
> I'm sure the Mac has it's vulnerabilities (especially with regard to
> spyware and such) but it appears to be to a much lesser degree (at least
> based on feedback I've received from Mac users).
>
>
 
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"Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
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> "...based on feedback I've received from Mac users..."
>
> Now there's an objective group. {;->
>
> Rocky
>

<snip>


Oh, and we're sure as hell unbiased here :) I've got four Dells right now
and I'm going to recommend a Compaq or Apple. Yeah....


Stew
 
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Rocket J. Squirrel <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote:
> "...based on feedback I've received from Mac users..."

> Now there's an objective group. {;->

> Rocky

They hate Dells just as much as this group. :)
 
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"Pat" <pkelecy@insightbb*no_spam*.com> wrote in message
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> Somewhere I read that there have been no reported viruses for OS X (Apples
> latest OS). However, there are some for some of the older Apple OS's.
>
> Pat
>

Must have been a while ago. Apple just released a patch to fix a security
issue in OS-X.
Fact is any OS is susceptible to attack though some may prove more difficult
than others. The reason more go after MS OS's is a greatly due to install
base. You do not disrupt much going after 8% of the install base!
 
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"Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
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> "...based on feedback I've received from Mac users..."
>
> Now there's an objective group. {;->


Ya, you're right. Everyone has their biases, and I try to keep that in mind
when considering someones response.

But if people are having problems with malicous spyware it will usually show
up in the newsgroups. It certainly has on the PC side. If you do a Google
on Mac spyware though there doesn't seem to be much. And what little there
is doesn't appear to be malicious (Realplayer?).

http://www.spywareguide.com/txt_faq.html
 
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"PC Medic" <NOT@home.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Pat" <pkelecy@insightbb*no_spam*.com> wrote in message
> news😱j0Lc.102101$WX.17429@attbi_s51...
> > Somewhere I read that there have been no reported viruses for OS X
(Apples
> > latest OS). However, there are some for some of the older Apple OS's.
> >
> > Pat
> >
>
> Must have been a while ago. Apple just released a patch to fix a security
> issue in OS-X.
> Fact is any OS is susceptible to attack though some may prove more
difficult
> than others. The reason more go after MS OS's is a greatly due to install
> base. You do not disrupt much going after 8% of the install base!

A security issue doesn't necessarily equate to a virus (could be hacker
related).

You're right, Apple is a small target and largely ignored...but that does
make it safer.
 
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PC Medic wrote:
> "Pat" <pkelecy@insightbb*no_spam*.com> wrote in message
> news😱j0Lc.102101$WX.17429@attbi_s51...
>
>>Somewhere I read that there have been no reported viruses for OS X (Apples
>>latest OS). However, there are some for some of the older Apple OS's.
>>
>>Pat
>
> Must have been a while ago. Apple just released a patch to fix a security
> issue in OS-X.
> Fact is any OS is susceptible to attack though some may prove more difficult
> than others. The reason more go after MS OS's is a greatly due to install
> base. You do not disrupt much going after 8% of the install base!

I have to believe that Windows' lack of designed in security is at least
a factor. Reading some of the holes I have gotten the impression that
Windows was written by hackers for hackers. I've programmed mainframes
more than 30 years and the idea of a buffer overrun giving someone
control of your system is mind boggling.
 
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exactly. and it can be downright impossible to install some printers under
the os9 emulation which renders programs that work under os9 emulation
unable to print...

"S.Lewis" <fearlessfreep@noyoujump.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:sZ9Lc.13844$W86.10709@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > be sure to get them applecare (expensive but for a system with
integrated
> > monitor that is not a user replaceable item if it goes then you have a
> > worthless large box on your desk). also, check the compatibility of
their
> > printer (many are not supported by osx, certainly has to at least be a
osx
> > printer).
> >
> > ps, not even addressing the configuration/performance differences which
> > were
> > not stated, the dollar difference may not be great, but percentage
> > difference even with their educational discount is a fat 25%...
> >
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> .....and how about that software compatibility thing? Woo-hoo! Be sure
to
> read and purchase only Mac versions of the softwares you know and love -
if
> they're even available.
>
>
>
 
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not 8%, less than 4% domestically and less than 3% worldwide (optimistically
speaking)
http://www.macminute.com/2004/07/16/marketshare 3.7% domestically 7/2004
http://daringfireball.net/2003/07/market_share 2.3% worldwide 7/2003

"PC Medic" <NOT@home.net> wrote in message
news:smgLc.4069$Qv4.3375@lakeread03...
>
> "Pat" <pkelecy@insightbb*no_spam*.com> wrote in message
> news😱j0Lc.102101$WX.17429@attbi_s51...
> > Somewhere I read that there have been no reported viruses for OS X
(Apples
> > latest OS). However, there are some for some of the older Apple OS's.
> >
> > Pat
> >
>
> Must have been a while ago. Apple just released a patch to fix a security
> issue in OS-X.
> Fact is any OS is susceptible to attack though some may prove more
difficult
> than others. The reason more go after MS OS's is a greatly due to install
> base. You do not disrupt much going after 8% of the install base!
>
>
>
 
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