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Like I said before, if you are looking at Quad-FX, I strongly recommend you look at Opteron 2000 series platforms insteead.
They are actually cheaper as they don't include the FanBoy nTax®

Coming from someone who ran an Opteron 270 about 2 years ago, the +50% better Quad-FX looks pretty poor considering it took 2 years to get just +50% more performance from their ccNUMA platform (and it doesn't use Registered ECC DIMMs, but has Dual-Channel DDR2 - which my Opteron 270 lacked only Reg ECC Dual-Ch DDR1 - so Quad-FX should be 'even' faster.

If it was a 2 x 4 core server platform, or a 2 x 2 core server platform with a 2 x 4 core upgrade option at a higher clock speed a year later... with Reg ECC DIMMs or FB-DIMMs sporting up to 64 GB of RAM - Then yeah my view would be different.

You want heaps of cores, but don't need max performance per core ?
Check out: www.tyanpsc.com ; with real PCs. Leave this Quad-FX to the children as a play toy.
 
JumpingJack found this and I thought it was hilliraous:

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/11378

TechReport issues amber alert for Quad FX parts
by Scott Wasson - 09:53 am, December 5, 2006

You might have missed our review of AMD's new Quad FX platform since it was nearly a day late, but our review isn't the only thing about Quad FX that's tardy. We've had no luck finding Quad FX processors and motherboards at online vendors, despite AMD's stated plans to make Quad FX kits available to DIYers as part of this product launch.

Concerned for the safety of these products, we contacted AMD to ask about their whereabouts. After some investigation, AMD told us that the hold-up is retail-boxed versions of the Asus L1N64-SLI WS motherboard, Quad FX's sole launch mobo. The CPUs are apparently ready, but vendors are awaiting motherboards to bundle with them in Quad FX kits. Those boards, they say, "are being shipping to North America as we speak." We will have to watch for availability of Quad FX kits at online vendors, but I get the impression it could take another week or two.

As proof of Quad FX's availability, AMD cites systems for sale at a number of relatively small PC makers. Conspicuously absent from the list are bigger fish like Dellienware, Voodoo HP, and Falcon Northwest, none of whom look to be offering Quad FX systems on their web sites at present.
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Jesus, I've seen smarter people clean streets. What you're saying has no logic...I make no sense alot of the time, but you're just being a retard. Quit talking about stuff you know nothing about, stop posting quotes that you can't provide links to and finally stop wasting people's time. Keep w**king to your dead animal p0rn and leave this forum.

Your benchmark results mean nothing and your lack of knowledge suggests that you have some kind of learning difficulty...Tell me - was you mother your dad's sister? Probably...That would explain much...Whya would run 4 games at once? You can't play them all? Justify why you would even think about running 4 games at once.

I don't like intel, but I can admit when they have something going...And this gravy train will be a long time stopping (the gravy train is Intel...Just incase you thought gravy came on trains baronBS)
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MPD...Multiple Personality Disorder....AKA...CYBIL. 😛 He/She has 4 personalities.
1. Baron Matrix..a janitor
2. Cybil...a disturbed girl
3. Fatality(Johnathen Wendel)...A Pro gamer
4. Bill Gates..top tier DEV/Programmer/CEO of a Company...and one of the worlds most powerful men.

See how trouble starts? Everytime it posts, we have to figure which character he/she is blessing our presence with. :roll:

Tanker,
What an excellent analysis. It now becomes crystal clear why BM needs $x$. 1 Core to keep each of his personalities straight. Sadly, Intel C2Q would do the job faster, for less component investment cost and a lower operating cost. Oh well, whaddya gonna do.
 
No can do. This is a free country. Stay out of my threads. I can talk to myself for 8 pages.
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Well its a damn good thing you can talk to yourself, because "yourself" is the only individual who buys the BS you spew

Really? I guess it's a good thing I can stand on my own.
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Thats your opinion.
Theres an old saying that applies here, about learning to sit before you stand. I suggest you get back to basics, since your performance in the advanced task of standing upsupported is abysmal.


Have you noticed, than noone buys or supports your BS? Generally speaking, when everyone is telling you that you are wrong and full of BS, its a good time to stand back and assess your position because odds are, no matter how much you believe you are right, you are wrong.
 
You want heaps of cores, but don't need max performance per core ?
Check out: www.tyanpsc.com ; with real PCs. Leave this Quad-FX to the children as a play toy.
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Mama, mama!!! 😛

he says in his best child's voice, further cementing his reputation as a guy who just doesn't give a crap.
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.
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Baron, I live in two miles north of Eight Mile (remember that movie?). So I'm just north of Detroit and let's say we know a little something about the automotive industry. Automotive companies don't compete with themselves, they compete with each other. Why does GM have a research and development facility that takes up two square miles of the city I live in (Warren, Michigan)? It's to make better products than what their competitors make.

All companies are like that. Intel drives AMD to be better and AMD drives Intel to be better.


You're wrong.
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.
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Baron, I live in two miles north of Eight Mile (remember that movie?). So I'm just north of Detroit and let's say we know a little something about the automotive industry. Automotive companies don't compete with themselves, they compete with each other. Why does GM have a research and development facility that takes up two square miles of the city I live in (Warren, Michigan)? It's to make better products than what their competitors make.

All companies are like that. Intel drives AMD to be better and AMD drives Intel to be better.


You're wrong.
O RLY?
 
When Porsche releases a new engine it isn't to be faster than Ferrari's new engine, it's to be faster than Porsche's old engine.
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Baron, I live in two miles north of Eight Mile (remember that movie?). So I'm just north of Detroit and let's say we know a little something about the automotive industry. Automotive companies don't compete with themselves, they compete with each other. Why does GM have a research and development facility that takes up two square miles of the city I live in (Warren, Michigan)? It's to make better products than what their competitors make.

All companies are like that. Intel drives AMD to be better and AMD drives Intel to be better.


You're wrong.

Ahhh - now we're going from belligerent denial to just plain denial. You're progessing BM, you're progessing.
 
Baron:

Is it your response that becuase Intel made product that used more current for less productivity that AMD should be doing the same thing?

It is a good thing in life to learn from your own mistakes, it is a whole lot better when you have the advantage of learning from someone elses mistakes. When you use at the logic of it's okay to make the same mistake that someone else did as a defense, you paint a pretty stupid picture of yourself.

Your defense is always to compare the faults of AMD to the past faults of Intel. That is sure a product I would blindfully want to support, one that is no better or worse than the competitor I have spent a lot of my time bashing.

You were one of the crowd that said that is was a shame that platforms from Intel use more power and do less, when the shoe gets on the other foot you call it inovation.
 
Step 2: Imagine that your hardware gets the job done.
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If you apply that logic then you'd be buying a Sempron or Celeron. Back when AMD had the best chips (which wasn't too long ago) you'd be touting the benchmarks, you'd be proudly displaying how the FX series was crushing the heat plauged Pentium 4 EE.

Well, the tables have turned. I'm sure they'll turn again, but the next year or so is going to be an Intel year until AMD can counter with something good (4x4 is not that something).


I stopped caring about "clean-machine" benchmarks when i saw 300-400fps for Q3.

Also, I am looking right now for comparisons between Opteron dual and QFX. There shoudl be no difference in any apps.

If they're not, you're all just insecure, riding the coattails of a company that wouldn't pee on you were you on fire.

Have fun with it.
 
Baron:

Is it your response that becuase Intel made product that used more current for less productivity that AMD should be doing the same thing?

It is a good thing in life to learn from your own mistakes, it is a whole lot better when you have the advantage of learning from someone elses mistakes. When you use at the logic of it's okay to make the same mistake that someone else did as a defense, you paint a pretty stupid picture of yourself.

Your defense is always to compare the faults of AMD to the past faults of Intel. That is sure a product I would blindfully want to support, one that is no better or worse than the competitor I have spent a lot of my time bashing.

You were one of the crowd that said that is was a shame that platforms from Intel use more power and do less, when the shoe gets on the other foot you call it inovation.
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My argument is that you don't pay my bills, sign my paycheck or even know my real name so I don't care what you think about my purchases.

When I buy it I will be happy.
 
Baron:

Is it your response that becuase Intel made product that used more current for less productivity that AMD should be doing the same thing?

It is a good thing in life to learn from your own mistakes, it is a whole lot better when you have the advantage of learning from someone elses mistakes. When you use at the logic of it's okay to make the same mistake that someone else did as a defense, you paint a pretty stupid picture of yourself.

Your defense is always to compare the faults of AMD to the past faults of Intel. That is sure a product I would blindfully want to support, one that is no better or worse than the competitor I have spent a lot of my time bashing.

You were one of the crowd that said that is was a shame that platforms from Intel use more power and do less, when the shoe gets on the other foot you call it inovation.
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My argument is that you don't pay my bills, sign my paycheck or even know my real name so I don't care what you think about my purchases.

When I buy it I will be happy.

Only until you finally realize that it was a half-assed solution concocted by AMD to counter C2Q that, due to it's lackluster performance, every vendor out there - including AMD - will drop support for and stop making products for.

I would be confident to wager that the one Asus board out there will probably be the ony mobo (maybe one or two more) out there for this and within the next 3-4 months this product will be sufficiently dead to the point where there will be no support for it. Come native quad core time, there will be enough changes in design to make your purchase non-upgradeable and you'll be spending yet another $4K plus on a system.

Now - I know you don't care, and I certainly don't care what you do with your money, roll it in a ball and eat it for all I care, I just hate to see people make bad purchasing decisions. Call it the customer service in me....
 
Well Baron:

If I were to be around after you buy your megamonster machine and it were to catch on fire, I would definently pee on you to make sure you would not get burned. The boys at Intel would just sit there and watch you go up in flames. They are a cold hearted bunch.

I don't like to speak for everyone but I bet most people here would pee on you if you were to catch on fire, so even though they are in support of Intel's superior products at this time they would give up a few quarts of urine to assure that AMD will have at least one voice of support.
 
How does this show promise ? I really need to know, it got cleaned by a intels core 2 Q even though the Core 2 Q had a 330 mhz clock speed deficit. Once intel starts ramping up the quad cores frequency, QFX wont even be able to come close to touching the Core 2 Q. Also quad fx sadly uses up nearly 2x the power of the Core 2 Q, not that I really care but some people actually do.
 
Its really funney because those benchmarks youve shown, show the 3.0 ghz DUAL FX system getting killed by a 2.4 ghz Core 2 Q, a 600 mhz clock speed advance and it still cannot win... you really shouldnt show benchies like that. Honestly If I was an engineer at Intel, I would be roaring laughing atm, at this glued together crack pot platform. Good luck though with your 5000 $ inferior glued together crack pot platform.... have a merry christmas with that.
 
Kentsfield will be fast but it is said it will use 125W+ so 4x4 can compete power wise.
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Lawl, good prediction there.

Also, AMD already has 2.6 Opterons running at 55W, so it's not amazing that the slowest iterations of 4x4 will run at the same or less than Kentsfield.
And because people who would buy that may also buy 2xxx Opteron, how could the power consumption be so much greater?
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Lawl again.

Face it, around XMas you'll be drooling over my 4x4 system with Vista Business.
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Ahahaha.
 
Kentsfield will be fast but it is said it will use 125W+ so 4x4 can compete power wise.
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Lawl, good prediction there.

Also, AMD already has 2.6 Opterons running at 55W, so it's not amazing that the slowest iterations of 4x4 will run at the same or less than Kentsfield.
And because people who would buy that may also buy 2xxx Opteron, how could the power consumption be so much greater?
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Lawl again.

Face it, around XMas you'll be drooling over my 4x4 system with Vista Business.
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Ahahaha.

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