Can I remove a normal fan and connect a PWM fan?

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This is my front fan connection that is the default stock fan that came with my CM 690 II Advanced casing
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This is the new PWM fan I bought
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Q1) Can I remove the old fan and connect the new PWM fan in this way?
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Q2) How to connect a PWM fan to act as a normal fan?
 


My motherboard Asus P7P55DE PRO https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P7P55DE_PRO/

Default cooler that come with the intel chip.
 
Can anyone answer my Q1 and Q2 with straight answers?

What happens if I connect the new fan like a normal fan (as seen in Q1 pics). I only remove the old fan and plug in the new fan. Does my PWM fan work as a normal fan? Always at maximum speed?
 
no mate not in my opinion,at low usage why would you want an intake running at full rpm when theres no need??
it increases noise levels & decreases the limetime of the fan itself.

connect the fan straight to your motherboards 4 pin chassis fan header & it will ramp up & down dependant on your usage
 
I was under the impression that this answered both questions.

That two wire connection will give you fan-on full all the time.

1. Yes you can connect it, although it will not act as a PWM fan.
2. Yes, it will run full speed all the time with the same control, or lack thereof, that the old fan had.

Seems a waste though. Since it comes with a splitter, why not use it?

We're kind of interested in the why?




 
The wire is too short to reach the 4 pin chassis fan in my motherboard. I actually just wanted to replace my front fan with a normal front fan.

Reason is the stock front fan gave me a reading of 39 Deg for my hard disk near the front rack. So I intend to use this new fan to replace the old fan. The old fan is a normal fan and always run at maxium speed 1200rpm (140 x 25 mm Blue LED fan x 1 / 1200 RPM / 19 dBA) . This fan I bought runs at maximum 1300 RPM. If I am using PWM fan, and it adjust itself to lower 1200RPM, I might as well not buy a new fan. My purpose is to make the hard disk cooler.
 
plug it into the chassis fan 2 header on the motherboard then - bottom right of board above the front case connection pins - it should reach that one easily





it will run at full speed by default but will give you the option to manually change fan speed should you ever want to & will also allow fan monitoring in bios etc.
it will also be neater cabling wise.

 
chassis fan 2 header cha_fan2 on the motherboard is 3 pin, I thought any fan that connects to 3 pin will act like a normal fan?

"it will run at full speed by default but will give you the option to manually change fan speed should you ever want to & will also allow fan monitoring in bios etc."> What software do you use to adjust fan speed?
 
Do you guys always spend time inside BIOS? I mean like maybe spend 5mins every day going into BIOS to adjust fan or something? (Noob here)

I don't go to BIOS at all, unless my pc is spoiled and I need to go there to check something. Is there anything that can adjust fan speed inside Windows? Or will the fan auto adjust?
 



it will run at full speed normally - 3 pin fans cant be controlled by pwn but can be controlled via regualted voltage if a motherboard supports it (yours does)

if you use the 3 pin header on the board it will run 1300rpm (its a lot better fan than the cheap coolermaster too) - I suggest this just because itll be neater & tidier than using that molex splitter cable youre currently using.
 
What is molex splitter cable? Is it in this pic? (I assume is the black cable)
I thought even if you use the 3 pin header on the board, it is also using the same molex splitter cable? I cannot remove any cable from the fan
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Why can't I connect to the same connector at the side of the casing (brown seen in this pic) that the old fan connects to?
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You asked! If there was something easier, I would have told you. Once set, it doesn't need to be messed with.

You CAN connect it just like the old on, We experts here are trying to suggest something better and more efficient.

 
The 4 hole socket on the ac fan cable is actually designed to plug another fan into .
The yellow single pin - ignore it - its for people running multiple fans from one header.

The brown 3 pin plug on your case - I have no idea where it runs/is connected to mate which is why id tuck it out of the way & not use it personally.
You can try it if you want your way but the simplest & quickest way is just to plug the new fan into the mb fan header I pointed out.
I can see no reason not to do this at all - you're complicating something that is incredibly straight forward.
 
"The 4 hole socket on the ac fan cable is actually designed to plug another fan into ." The 4 hole socket is the one in this pic correct?, which is also the one that I should plug into chassis fan 2 header on the motherboard? :
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That's the 4pin fan connector (not socket ) but yes that's the one to plug into the mb 3 pin fan header.

It will only plugin one way due to the 2 teeth on the outside - one pin overhangs the fan header - that's the pwm pin which will obviously remain disconnected so the fan will run full rpm.

 
You're getting some confused answers. Hope I can help.

1. The fan you are replacing is fed from some power source in the case. I don't know whether it is a (manual) fan controller, or just straight from a 12 VDC PSU output. But I gather it has always run full speed. I see that it has only two wires to it and these are Black (Ground) and Red (+12 VDC). But the connectors involved are set up to accept standard 3-pin OR 4-pin fans, so replacement as you have done is no trouble at all.
2. What you have done WILL work. Since the power source you connect to has no connections for speed signal return (Pin #3) or for a PWM signal (Pin #4), the new fan will never feed its speed signal to any circuit that can read it, and the fan's speed will not be PWM controlled. Moreover, since the power supplied on Pin #2 is fixed, the fan's speed also cannot be altered under "Voltage Control Mode". Thus it will always run at full speed, exactly as the original one did. The point several posters have been trying to make is: if the new fan cannot be controlled in PWM Mode, why spend the money for that type of fan? But in terms of performance, yes, it will operate as a "normal" fan (of the 3-pin variety).
3. I see that your new fan has an unusual feature. In addition to the normal 4 wires coming out of it, it has a fifth Yellow wire that ends in a standard 3-pin fan connector, with the wire on Pin #3. Thus you COULD plug that into a mobo fan port and read the speed of this new fan via that mobo port if you wish. Of course, with your setup the speed will not change, but you could do that. One port you could use for that, IF your mobo has it, is called "PWR_FAN". If you want to do that, post back here and I'll give you more info.
4. You have not been using a "Molex splitter", so don't worry about that. What you did have in the old fan was a cable that had both a female connector to plug into the power source, and a male connector to be used as a new power source connection for a second similar fan (that you did not have). This cable acts like a "Y-splitter" because it allows you to connect two fans to one power source.
5. Several posters have been advising you how to connect the new fan to some mobo port so it can be put under "Automatic" speed control. That certainly could be done if you want to. Moreover, it could work no matter whether your mobo fan port is 3-pin or 4-pin. The way that backward compatibility in the designs of such fans works (when plugged into the "wrong" port type) is this: a 3-pin fan on a 4-pin port will always run full speed, but a 4-pin fan on a 3-pin port (THIS is your potential situation) WILL work with speed control. (In the latter case, control just will be done under Voltage Control Mode like a 3-pin fan, and not using the more advanced PWM Mode.) HOWEVER, you probably do not want to do this! "Automatic" control of a case ventilation fan speed by a mobo fan port is based on trying to achieve a measured temperature at a sensor built into the mobo by its maker. It is focused on the temperature of certain mobo components. BUT your concern is the temperature of your HARD DRIVE. There is NO automatic fan speed control system that is based on hard drive internal temperatures. Since you want to reduce your HDD's temperature by increasing the air flow over it, you are best to keep the new fan running at maximum speed using its full 12VDC power.
6. The proof will be in your temperature of the HDD, which you can measure somehow. But don't concentrate on the fan speed. What is important is the AIR FLOW the fan delivers, and speed is only one factor. Anything you can do to get more air flow (maybe less junk in the air flow path before or after the fan and HDD) will help. And make VERY sure that any dust filter mounted in front of the fan has been cleaned, and that you keep checking and re-cleaning it.
 
paperdoc, really appreciate your explaination. Very detailed. Thanks a lot. :)

"4. You have not been using a "Molex splitter", so don't worry about that. What you did have in the old fan was a cable that had both a female connector to plug into the power source, and a male connector to be used as a new power source connection for a second similar fan (that you did not have). This cable acts like a "Y-splitter" because it allows you to connect two fans to one power source."

I am assuming that you are referring to the connectors that i circled in the pic of the old fan below,
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Is there a need to connect 2 connector to power source for it to work? or only connect to one will work?
 
OOOPS! No, that's not what I was referring to. I got confused. I was referring to the pics of your NEW fan. IT is the one with a spare male connector for a second fan.

From your pics of the old system, you did not have a Molex splitter involved. HOWEVER, I just realized that the gender of the connectors is reversed! A "standard" 3-pin or 4-pin fan has a FEMALE connector (with holes) on the end of its wires, and it plugs into a MALE (with pins) connector on the mobo. Your old fan's white connector has pins (male) on the end of its wires, and the case's red power supply it mates with is female! So it is very fortunate that you got a PWM fan whose cables have both male and female connectors. That allows you to plug (in a non-standard way) a male connector of the new fan into the red female power supply, as you have done in some of the pics you posted.

Do NOT connect the other (female) connector of the new fan's cord to anything! If you were to plug it into a mobo male fan port, you'd be creating a cross-connection between two power sources for the fan, with unpredictable (and possibly damaging) results!