[SOLVED] Can't Boot Into BIOS Because the System Boots Up Too Fast

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Darkbreeze

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If you have no image on the screen, at all, and you have the display cable connected to the graphics card, the graphics card is seated correctly and the required power cables are plugged into the graphics card, then you have bigger problems than just what speed your memory is running at. Contact ASUS for warranty technical and warranty support would be my recommendation.

You should not need ANYTHING except graphics card, motherboard, CPU, memory, keyboard and mouse to be connected in order to POST and access the BIOS setup program.

Does the system still boot into Windows and show a display if you reconnect the storage devices?
 

Heoir

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Hey, just a quicky. Most modern motherboards are equipped to bring you to a boot selection upon hardware changes. Like someone above mentioned, remove one stick of ram while the power is off. Boot up and it'll bring you to the bios. Leave everything as is and boot back to windows with just this one stick of ram. Now shut down the pc, and reinstall the second stick of ram. This should, again, bring up the boot selection which then brings you back to the bios. enable your xmp settings or manual oc's there.

The boot selection will be just a choice between f1 and f2. forgot whta f1 is but f2 was something along the lines of default settings. I just choose that one and I get brought into the bios.

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If you don't get anything showing up on screen with all media removed (usb drivers, external and internal storage) then there is an issue with your bios. Like someone said, contact your manufacturer for assistance. They'll probably suggest you flash the most recent bios to see what that does.
 

Darkbreeze

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You can't flash the BIOS on that board if you can't get INTO the BIOS. It does not have flashback.

Your comments seem to indicate you didn't read through this thread in it's entirety, or if you did, you missed a lot of what has been tried already.
 

Darkbreeze

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I would, and before even knowing you said that, did, agree as well. This is not normal behavior, is not a result of fast boot settings and is clearly due to something being faulty.

Just out of curiosity, you didn't leave the jumper pins in the shorted position did you? That still shouldn't cause that, specifically, but it can cause some issues like lack of being able to POST following a restart or a restart boot loop among other things. It shouldn't have anything to do with no display though. Something is borked for sure.
 

Darkbreeze

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No, you can't. That doesn't work on ANY system, much less one where there is no display. Jesus, don't any of you people bother to READ the thread anymore?

Let's do it like this. The next person who makes a post and doesn't bother to read the thread first, is getting perma-banned. Ok?

(Just kidding, but damn man, if you're going to contribute to a thread, at LEAST READ through the thread before you start spitting out nonsense)
 

Heoir

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You can't flash the BIOS on that board if you can't get INTO the BIOS. It does not have flashback.

Your comments seem to indicate you didn't read through this thread in it's entirety, or if you did, you missed a lot of what has been tried already.
Since we're in the business of belittling each other:

there's something called asus live update utility which, indeed, works for that board. Doing a check on asus' website shows that it is an available download. You CAN update your bios. Considering literally every mobo manufacturer has a live update utility with a bios update function....

Your comment seems to suggest that you're lacking the knowledge needed to provide genuine assistance to the OP.

Going back to the OP:

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

Select your OS and you can download the utility and update your bios from it, or at least attempt to. I won't guarantee that this will fix your issue but it may allow the bios to 'repair' itself if there is indeed an issue.

Haven't downloaded it myself as I have an msi board but confirming said existence of said utility is: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4206-asus-update-utility.html

I'm unable to find the utility anywhere on asus' site though their help section tells you to download the utility I'm speaking of to ensure a board is working properly. This is not found by referencing your specific issue but more of a general section of their help area.

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Note to moderators, don't try to hijack a user's thread from an op and basically calling everyone an idiot who responds with valid suggestions. You're a moderator, you have a standard to uphold, don't encourage flame. If you're having a bad day, take a break. If you can't deal with people not reading every single comment, don't be a moderator. Sorry to say but it's true, and if you feel I should be banned for pointing this out or deleting/editing this thread because you don't like having how you treat others pointed out, that's okay too. All I'm looking to do is help the OP, no matter how little you feel. An appropriate response would have been 'How would you suggest he update the bios without flashback?'

EDIT: If you still have your original CD that came with your board, there should be the utility in there.
 

Colif

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its kind of funny that PC works otherwise, if he didn't need to get into bios he wouldn't have this problem. As windows works... some motherboards had applications that you could install that would boot you into bios, I am not sure if its part of AI Suite or I would have suggested it. I did look for such a tool on motherboard site last night.

Did he ever just remove 1 ram stick? that was main reason I was after more help :)
 

Darkbreeze

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Since we're in the business of belittling each other:

there's something called asus live update utility which, indeed, works for that board. Doing a check on asus' website shows that it is an available download. You CAN update your bios. Considering literally every mobo manufacturer has a live update utility with a bios update function....

Your comment seems to suggest that you're lacking the knowledge needed to provide genuine assistance to the OP.

Going back to the OP:

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

Select your OS and you can download the utility and update your bios from it, or at least attempt to. I won't guarantee that this will fix your issue but it may allow the bios to 'repair' itself if there is indeed an issue.

Haven't downloaded it myself as I have an msi board but confirming said existence of said utility is: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4206-asus-update-utility.html

I'm unable to find the utility anywhere on asus' site though their help section tells you to download the utility I'm speaking of to ensure a board is working properly. This is not found by referencing your specific issue but more of a general section of their help area.

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Note to moderators, don't try to hijack a user's thread from an op and basically calling everyone an idiot who responds with valid suggestions. You're a moderator, you have a standard to uphold, don't encourage flame. If you're having a bad day, take a break. If you can't deal with people not reading every single comment, don't be a moderator. Sorry to say but it's true, and if you feel I should be banned for pointing this out or deleting/editing this thread because you don't like having how you treat others pointed out, that's okay too. All I'm looking to do is help the OP, no matter how little you feel. An appropriate response would have been 'How would you suggest he update the bios without flashback?'

EDIT: If you still have your original CD that came with your board, there should be the utility in there.
Fair enough.

So, a few additional things that need to be asked if this is the way a person wants to recommend going forward.

Are you suggesting that attempting to update the BIOS from outside the BIOS on a system where the user cannot even ACCESS the BIOS, because there is an obvious problem with the motherboard, is a good idea? Would you truthfully make an attempt to update the BIOS on a motherboard that was already exhibiting obvious signs of problems that clearly are not due to anything other than the motherboard itself?

I was only halfway joking earlier, and you make a valid point under some circumstances, regarding live update (Which I don't care much for anyhow, but we'll leave that out of the discussion because my dislike for that feature is not relevant to this conversation), and I was not even mildly serious about banning anybody, just trying to make the point that many of these posts don't inspire much confidence in the idea that those posting were making any effort to actually follow what has been going on here.

Also, I specifically DID NOT call anybody an idiot. I merely made an observation that it was clear people were just throwing crap at the wall to see what might stick without bothering to even take two minutes to see if that particular crap had already been thrown at the wall or not.

It was NOT meant to belittle or insult, however, aside from any considerations regarding live update (Which can result in completely bricking your system when things like the wrong BIOS image are used, as has been seen to happen at least four times that I know of over the years on various boards due to somebody making an "oops" mistake at ASUS. That generally doesn't happen when you update manually, which of course, is still a bad idea if there is something fundamentally wrong with the motherboard's behavior), it was clear to me that you had not read the thread when you said

Hey, just a quicky. Most modern motherboards are equipped to bring you to a boot selection upon hardware changes. Like someone above mentioned, remove one stick of ram while the power is off. Boot up and it'll bring you to the bios. Leave everything as is and boot back to windows with just this one stick of ram. Now shut down the pc, and reinstall the second stick of ram. This should, again, bring up the boot selection which then brings you back to the bios.

since how do you think they are going to see any "boot menu" screens that might allow them to get into the BIOS when there is no display at all until at least after Windows begins loading into memory? You have to be able to see something on the screen to do anything, at least in my experience.

SO, your participation is ALWAYS welcome, but just at least TRY to keep it in line with the reality of the specific thread, which in this case happens to involve variables that made it clear you had not in fact read what came before. That is all.
 
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Well here's an update. We gave the DPC to a nearby IT Specialist, they were able to get into the BIOS and change the frequency of the RAM. We think it is because of a problem with the GPU's HDMI port.
The way Darkbreeze acted was understandable, he did not hijack my thread, people should read the thread before giving out suggestions as it does get repetitive seeing the same suggestion over and over. There was no point in removing a RAM stick as I needed to get into the BIOS to change the RAM frequency, so removing a stick would be kinda pointless.
 

Darkbreeze

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That's very unusual that the HDMI port wouldn't work in the pre-Windows environment, but WOULD work once Windows loaded it's drivers. Unusual, but obviously not impossible. I will keep this in mind for the future, as it's the first time I've seen this issue occur. I'm glad you got it sorted out. Best of luck man.
 

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