Question Can't seem to locate latest Bios for MS-7788

canadianjameson

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Hi all,

I'm trying to find the latest bios update for my mother's older desktop because I bought what I was told by a tech savvy friend was the best CPU for the board (https://www.amazon.com/AMD-A10-5800K-3-8Ghz-Processor-AD580KWOHJBOX/dp/B0095VP8D4). I am pretty certain that I need to flash the bios for the board to accept this processor, but I could be wrong. I REALLY can't afford to have problems upgrading this CPU as, well, that means my day ++ gets destroyed trying to fix the damn thing, lol/notLol.

Below is the output from CPU-Z. I tried to use this to find the latest bios but had no luck with the HP site, and when I search online I found this site (https://www.msi-bios.com/msi-bios-number-MS-7788.html) but there seem to be a variety of possible bios' and I can't figure out which one goes to this board. Or even, quite frankly, if this board IS the MS-7788. Sigh. Help?

The two major Q's are:
a) is the processor ACTUALLY going to work in the board?
b) do I need to flash the bios to make that happen?
and c) can someone help me find a direct link to the right bios files? The HP Assistant is worthless, lol.

Thanks so much in advance!


Jay

CPU-Z
Binaries
CPU-Z version1.94.0.x64
Processors
Number of sockets1
Number of threads2
APICs
Socket 0
-- Core 0 (ID 0)
-- Thread 00
-- Core 1 (ID 1)
-- Thread 11
Timers
ACPI timer3.580 MHz
Perf timer10.000 MHz
Sys timer1.000 KHz
Processors Information
Socket 1ID = 0
Number of cores2 (max 2)
Number of threads2 (max 2)
ManufacturerAuthenticAMD
NameAMD A6-5400K
CodenameTrinity
SpecificationAMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
PackageSocket FM2 (904)
CPUIDF.0.1
Extended CPUID15.10
Core SteppingTN-A1
Technology32 nm
TDP Limit65.2 Watts
Core Speed1397.2 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed14.0 x 99.8 MHz
Base frequency (cores)99.8 MHz
Base frequency (ext.)99.8 MHz
Stock frequency3600 MHz
Instructions setsMMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, XOP, FMA3, FMA4
Microcode Revision0x600111F
L1 Data cache2 x 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache1024 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Max CPUID level0000000Dh
Max CPUID ext. level8000001Eh
Cache descriptorLevel 1, D, 16 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptorLevel 1, I, 64 KB, 2 thread(s)
Cache descriptorLevel 2, U, 1 MB, 2 thread(s)
FID/VID Controlyes
Min FID7.0x
# of P-States8
P-StateFID 0x16 - VID 0x10 - IDD 23 (19.00x - 1.450 V)
P-StateFID 0x15 - VID 0x12 - IDD 20 (18.50x - 1.438 V)
P-StateFID 0x14 - VID 0x1E - IDD 18 (18.00x - 1.362 V)
P-StateFID 0x10 - VID 0x2E - IDD 14 (16.00x - 1.262 V)
P-StateFID 0xC - VID 0x3C - IDD 11 (14.00x - 1.175 V)
P-StateFID 0x8 - VID 0x48 - IDD 9 (12.00x - 1.100 V)
P-StateFID 0x3 - VID 0x58 - IDD 6 (9.50x - 1.000 V)
P-StateFID 0x10C - VID 0x60 - IDD 5 (7.00x - 0.950 V)
PStateReg0x800001E4-0x00002016
PStateReg0x800001CB-0x00002415
PStateReg0x800001B4-0x00003C14
PStateReg0x8000018E-0x00005C10
PStateReg0x8000016F-0x0000780C
PStateReg0x80000158-0x00009008
PStateReg0x8000013D-0x0000B003
PStateReg0x8000012D-0x0040C04C
Package Type0x2
Model00
String 10x0
String 20x0
Page0x0
Base TDP0 Watts
Boosted P-States2
Max non-turbo ratio36.00x
Max turbo ratio38.00x
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
10000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1100000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000
12000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
13000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
14000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
15000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
16000000000 00000000 00000800 0074003A
17000000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
18000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
19000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1A080000003 00000000 00000000 00000000
1B000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000002
1E000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1F000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
10000000000 00000000 00000000 00000001
11000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
12000000000 00000085 00000000 00000000
13000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
14000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
15000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
16000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
17000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
18000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
19000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1A000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1B000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1E000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1F000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
10000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
11000000104 00000200 0C40A424 0CE00F31
120007F8D5F 00000000 00000000 00000000
1307D9FDB5F F96D7F3F 2DEEEE7B F7EE63F7
14000000001 00000000 00000021 00000000
15000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
16001F8FFC0 01F8FFC0 00000000 00000000
17000000000 00000000 00020000 18000400
180000000AA 00800005 3C000000 00020000
19003010000 9F59888E 8D0F812F 000000A1
1A0001F02A0 00000000 80320000 00000000
1B00FC39001 4C0F7D05 00000000 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1E000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1F000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
10000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
11000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
12000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
13000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
14000A11555 00000077 0000052A 00000000
15000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
160C0000000 00000000 C0000000 00000000
17000000000 00000000 00000000 00000004
180017003E0 00000000 08000010 00000000
19000000000 00000000 04000000 00000000
1A0000341C2 00000000 00000000 00000000
1B000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1E000000000 80001385 00000000 00000000
1F000080000 00000000 00000000 050E074F
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4
10000000000 00000000 00000000 007B0036
110000C2002 00000000 0006000A 00000000
12000000000 00000000 001C0280 00000000
13000000006 00000000 00000000 00000001
140082D07E5 00029149 1F96CCF8 0003C59A
15047470847 36363636 0000007B 00000089
16000610F21 00000000 00000000 00000036
17000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
18000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
19000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1A000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1B000000000 00000000 000000C5 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1E00BC82016 0B962415 0B683C14 0B1C5C10
1F00ADE780C 0AB09008 0A7AB003 0A5BC04C
Attached devicePCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 5
10000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
11000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
12000000001 00000000 0060DF38 4000002E
13000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
14000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
15000000000 00000000 0115001C 013F000F
1602700F819 27010017 20010815 8C457099
17000000253 000AC05A 00060C04 AE000000
18000000000 00000000 0000002D 00000000
19000000000 0000000B 00202020 00000000
1A000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1B000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1C000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1D000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1E000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
1F000000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Temperature 04 degC (39 degF) (Package)
Temperature 153 degC (127 degF) (Cores)
Voltage 01.42 Volts (Cores)
Voltage 11.16 Volts (Uncore)
Power 0020.03 W (Cores)
Power 014.10 W (Uncore)
Power 0224.13 W (Package)
Clock Speed 01397.17 MHz (Core #0)
Clock Speed 11397.17 MHz (Core #1)
Core 0 max ratio38.0 (effective 38.0)
Core 1 max ratio38.0 (effective 38.0)
Chipset
NorthbridgeAMD K15 IMC rev. 00
SouthbridgeAMD A75 FCH rev. 2.4
Graphic InterfacePCI-Express
Memory TypeDDR3
Memory Size16 GBytes
ChannelsDual
Memory Frequency665.3 MHz (3:20)
CAS# latency (CL)9.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD)9
RAS# Precharge (tRP)10
Cycle Time (tRAS)24
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)33
Uncore Frequency1397.2 MHz
Memory SPD
DIMM #1
SMBus address0x50
Memory typeDDR3
Module formatUDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID)Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000)
Size4096 MBytes
Max bandwidthPC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part numberCMX8GX3M2A1333C9
Manufacturing dateWeek 53/Year 15
Number of banks8
Nominal Voltage1.50 Volts
EPPno
XMPno
AMPno
JEDEC timings tableCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #16.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #27.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #39.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
DIMM #2
SMBus address0x51
Memory typeDDR3
Module formatUDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID)Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000)
Size4096 MBytes
Max bandwidthPC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part numberCMX8GX3M2A1333C9
Manufacturing dateWeek 53/Year 15
Number of banks8
Nominal Voltage1.50 Volts
EPPno
XMPno
AMPno
JEDEC timings tableCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #16.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #27.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #39.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
DIMM #3
SMBus address0x52
Memory typeDDR3
Module formatUDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID)Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000)
Size4096 MBytes
Max bandwidthPC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part numberCMX8GX3M2A1333C9
Manufacturing dateWeek 53/Year 15
Number of banks8
Nominal Voltage1.50 Volts
EPPno
XMPno
AMPno
JEDEC timings tableCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #16.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #27.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #39.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
DIMM #4
SMBus address0x53
Memory typeDDR3
Module formatUDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID)Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000)
Size4096 MBytes
Max bandwidthPC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part numberCMX8GX3M2A1333C9
Manufacturing dateWeek 53/Year 15
Number of banks8
Nominal Voltage1.50 Volts
EPPno
XMPno
AMPno
JEDEC timings tableCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #16.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #27.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #39.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
Monitoring
Mainboard Model2AE0 (0x000000E8 - 0x000026E0)
LPCIO
LPCIO VendorFintek
LPCIO ModelF71808A
LPCIO Vendor ID0x1934
LPCIO Chip ID0x1001
Hardware Monitors
Hardware monitorFintek F71808
Voltage 03.34 Volts [0xD1] (+3.3V)
Voltage 73.36 Volts [0xD2] (VSB3V)
Voltage 83.34 Volts [0xD1] (VBAT)
Temperature 0-24 degC (-13 degF) [0xE7] (TMPIN0)
Temperature 135 degC (95 degF) [0x23] (TMPIN1)
Fan 0885 RPM [0x69F] (FANIN0)
Fan 11071 RPM [0x579] (FANIN1)
Fan PWM 020 pc [0x33] (CPU)
Fan PWM 136 pc [0x5B] (System Fan 1)
Fan PWM 250 pc [0x7F] (System Fan 2)
Fan PWM 3100 pc [0xFF] (System Fan 3)
Hardware monitorHardware monitor ID=0xFFFFFFFF
Hardware monitorD3D
Hardware monitorAMD ADL
Voltage 00.99 Volts [0x3DB] (GPU)
Temperature 00 degC (30 degF) (GPU)
Clock Speed 0304.00 MHz [0x130] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1667.00 MHz [0x29B] (Memory)
Clock Speed 2n.a. (Processor)
PCI Devices
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1410
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionVGA Controller
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 1 (0x01), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1002
Model ID0x9991
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionPCI to PCI Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 7 (0x07), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1417
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionUSB Controller
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 16 (0x10), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7812
Revision ID0x03
DescriptionUSB Controller
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 16 (0x10), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7812
Revision ID0x03
DescriptionSerial ATA Controller
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 17 (0x11), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7801
Revision ID0x40
DescriptionUSB Controller (OHCI)
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7807
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionUSB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7808
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionUSB Controller (OHCI)
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7807
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionUSB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7808
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionSMBus Controller
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x780B
Revision ID0x14
DescriptionMultimedia device
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x780D
Revision ID0x01
DescriptionPCI to ISA Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x780E
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionPCI to PCI Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 4 (0x04)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x780F
Revision ID0x40
DescriptionUSB Controller (OHCI)
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 5 (0x05)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x7809
Revision ID0x11
DescriptionPCI to PCI Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 21 (0x15), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x43A0
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionPCI to PCI Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 21 (0x15), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x43A1
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1400
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1401
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1402
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1403
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 4 (0x04)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1404
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionHost Bridge
Locationbus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 5 (0x05)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1022
Model ID0x1405
Revision ID0x00
DescriptionEthernet Controller
Locationbus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x1969
Model ID0x1091
Revision ID0x08
DescriptionNetwork Controller
Locationbus 4 (0x04), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID0x168C
Model ID0x0034
Revision ID0x01
DMI
SMBIOS Version2.7
DMI BIOS
vendorAMI
version8.14
date12/18/2012
ROM size8192 KB
DMI System Information
manufacturerHewlett-Packard
productp6-2429
versionunknown
serialMXU30601QZ
UUID{F7D210B7-401B-AC3B-610B-C025377F1D1C}
SKUH3L58AA#ABL
family103C_53316J G=D
DMI Baseboard
vendorMSI
model2AE0
revision1.0
serialunknown
DMI System Enclosure
manufacturerHewlett-Packard
chassis typeDesktop
chassis serialunknown
DMI Extension Slot
designationPCIE x16
typeA5
populatedno
DMI Extension Slot
designationPCIE x1
typeA5
populatedno
DMI Extension Slot
designationPCIE x1
typeA5
populatedyes
DMI Extension Slot
designationPCIE x1
typeA5
populatedno
DMI OEM Strings
string[0]FBYTE#2U2V333E3K3N3Q3R4k5W5c6J6S6Z6b7B7K7M7Q7T7W9S9ta3apaqasauaz
string[1].ND;BUILDID#13NA1RR8602#SABL#DABL;
string[2]
string[3]
string[4]
string[5]
string[6]
string[7]
string[8]
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string[11]
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DMI Physical Memory Array
locationMotherboard
usageSystem Memory
correctionNone
max capacity32 GB
max# of devices4
DMI Memory Device
designationA1_DIMM0
formatDIMM
typeDDR3
total width64 bits
data width64 bits
size4 GB
DMI Memory Device
designationA1_DIMM1
formatDIMM
typeDDR3
total width64 bits
data width64 bits
size4 GB
DMI Memory Device
designationA1_DIMM2
formatDIMM
typeDDR3
total width64 bits
data width64 bits
size4 GB
DMI Memory Device
designationA1_DIMM3
formatDIMM
typeDDR3
total width64 bits
data width64 bits
size4 GB
DMI Processor
manufacturerAuthenticAMD
modelAMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
clock speed3600.0 MHz
FSB speed100.0 MHz
multiplier36.0x
Graphics
Number of adapters1
Graphic APIs
APID3D
APIATI I/O
APIADL SDK
Display Adapters
Display adapter 0
ID0x2000000
NameAMD Radeon HD 7540D
Board ManufacturerHewlett-Packard
Cores0
ROP Units0
Memory size512 MB
PCI devicebus 0 (0x0), device 1 (0x1), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID0x1002 (0x103C)
Model ID0x9991 (0x2AE0)
Revision ID0x0
Performance Level0
Core clock304.0 MHz
Memory clock667.0 MHz
Win32_VideoControllerAdapterRAM = 0x20000000 (536870912)
Win32_VideoControllerDriverVersion = 15.200.1060.0
Win32_VideoControllerDriverDate = 07/15/2015
Monitor 0
ModelSyncMaster (Samsung)
IDSAM0590
SerialHVJSA00615
Manufacturing DateWeek 42, Year 2009
Size19.9 inches
Max Resolution1600 x 900 @ 60 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range30-81 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range56-75 Hz
Max Pixel Clock150 MHz
Gamma Factor2.2
Software
Windows VersionMicrosoft Windows 10 (10.0) Home 64-bit (Build 18363)
DirectX Version12.0
 
Those BIOS's will not work, those are for the H61 chipset which is an Intel board. finding a BIOS for that old of a board especially an HP one is going to be tricky. The CPU should work (no guarantees) but I would seriously suggest looking on eBay, Facebook Marketplace, etc for a used one, you probably can find one significantly cheaper.
 

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Hi all,

The model of the HP PC is P6-2429, and as for the CPU I already have it so now I'm just hoping it works. I hope that with the model # you ca help me make that determination =) From here it would seem to indicate that it would, i'm just not sure if that is after a bios upgrade or with the current bios revision, which from the table above seems to be:

DMI
SMBIOS Version2.7
DMI BIOS
vendorAMI
version8.14
date12/18/2012
ROM size8192 KB

Thanks,


Jay
 

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Processor upgrade information

Socket type: FM2

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Processor

TDP

Trinity Dual-Core A4-5300

65 W

Trinity Dual-Core A6-5400K

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A8-5500

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A8-5600K

100 W

Trinity Quad-Core A10-5700

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A10-5800K

100 W
Directly from your link, CPU Upgrade Path.
 

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Directly from your link, CPU Upgrade Path.
Hey - thanks so much; so that answers the question of whether the board can handle the CPU (sorry - i have a complicated reason for needing to double check that Some other help from the same friend has gone wrong and a mobo he picked for me doesn't seem to support the ram he also picked, and the CPU i bought will only work if I flash that board... so I'm a little gunshy right now.

The final Q is whether the info in the link you quoted applies to the current bios the board has (from 2012) or if I need to flash. Sorry for the need to be hand held, but if you can let me know then I'll feel more comfortable diving into my mother's comp to change out the CPU.

Thanks in advance =)


Jay
 

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couple things.

Your mobo is an MS-7778 (Jasmine), not a MS-7788 as you keep inserting, that's going to make a massive difference in everything.

The 5800k was supported on the FM2 platform since original bios, so while you do not need to upgrade to get the pc working, later bios revisions also included many bug-fixes, optimizations etc that make the pc run better and stronger and more compatible with more other components like Ram and storage. So that's your call, but it'll function as is.
 

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couple things.

Your mobo is an MS-7778 (Jasmine), not a MS-7788 as you keep inserting, that's going to make a massive difference in everything.

The 5800k was supported on the FM2 platform since original bios, so while you do not need to upgrade to get the pc working, later bios revisions also included many bug-fixes, optimizations etc that make the pc run better and stronger and more compatible with more other components like Ram and storage. So that's your call, but it'll function as is.
so 1) I'm so sorry for the typo on the mobo #. bah - thanks for catching it.
2) I can't seem to find any active links that have any bios updates for my board. The closes I came was here but the link seems to be dead (thanks, HP...).

Does anyone know where I can actually get the download link to the most recent Bios? I'm trying to find it myself but I haven't had any luck so far - will keep trying but help is always appreciated.

Sincerely,


Jay
 

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https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_3045244-1633733-16

There's several ways to get bios updates for HP, but you'll probably need to go through HP to get them using the Assistant. HP isn't very forthcoming on actually posting updates for public use.
Ahhh - the assistant... you mean the one that says "Your product is no longer supported by HP" and offers no updates for download. Sigh. Is it even possible to determine which version of the bios is the most current? For all I know I have it... sigh.

Barring that, a final question: the CPU Fan is the standard one that shipped with the comp. It currently has a dual core - do i need to worry about having to upgrade the CPU fan as well? Or should it be good with the original one?

BTW Thanks so much for your help today - it's been much appreciated =)
 

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Upgrade the fan. Seriously. You are moving from a 65w? cpu to a 100w cpu. Your original cooler isn't big enough by half.

Those old Intel stock models were pretty bad for noise and allowing higher thermals and the AMD versions were considerably worse. They usually shipped a 105w cooler for a 100w cpu, even the 140w Hyper212 was such a big hit because of its low price, somewhat quiet operation and a good amount of thermal headroom on a stock cpu.

That's where you should be aiming for, the 140w budget class, which is most of the better 120mm fans and the better 92mm. Careful not to go too cheap, remember that you get what you pay for.

Being HP, you'll not have any real case dimensions, so you'll have to do the measuring.

You want to measure from the bare cpu perpendicular, to where the case panel side is. That'll tell you how tall of a cpu cooler will fit inside the case.

Almost all of the budget coolers will work, both AMD and Intel have not changed pinout sizes in years, the sockets may change, but the pins for FM2, FM2+, AM2, AM3, AM3+ etc are all the same. Only AM4 is different.
 
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Upgrade the fan. Seriously. You are moving from a 65w? cpu to a 100w cpu. Your original cooler isn't big enough by half.

Those old Intel stock models were pretty bad for noise and allowing higher thermals and the AMD versions were considerably worse. They usually shipped a 105w cooler for a 100w cpu, even the 140w Hyper212 was such a big hit because of its low price, somewhat quiet operation and a good amount of thermal headroom on a stock cpu.

That's where you should be aiming for, the 140w budget class, which is most of the better 120mm fans and the better 92mm. Careful not to go too cheap, remember that you get what you pay for.

Being HP, you'll not have any real case dimensions, so you'll have to do the measuring.

You want to measure from the bare cpu perpendicular, to where the case panel side is. That'll tell you how tall of a cpu cooler will fit inside the case.

Almost all of the budget coolers will work, both AMD and Intel have not changed pinout sizes in years, the sockets may change, but the pins for FM2, FM2+, AM2, AM3, AM3+ etc are all the same. Only AM4 is different.
I am SO glad I asked that question, then. Wow. That would have ended very very poorly,

I'm guessing this is what you had in mind: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Contact-Technology/dp/B08KD6SPLW/ref=sr_1_2

Does this qualify as "appropriately budget"?

Thanks,


Jay
 

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Yep, definitely budget, and not a terrible cooler. Just be aware that its 160mm tall from floor to tip , and that may or may not physically fit inside your case. 1 mm is not very big, but its enough that if you hit the cooler with the side of the case, you now are squashing the cpu/socket/motherboard. So you Will need to know your cpu coolers limits.
 

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Yep, definitely budget, and not a terrible cooler. Just be aware that its 160mm tall from floor to tip , and that may or may not physically fit inside your case. 1 mm is not very big, but its enough that if you hit the cooler with the side of the case, you now are squashing the cpu/socket/motherboard. So you Will need to know your cpu coolers limits.
hmm - according to the info on that link it's 120 mm tall =/ Are you looking at another source? Or is there a section I missed?

I hate to ask to be spoonfed, but is there any chance you could recommend a similar model that would be better sized? I just really don't want to order this and then end up having to return it due to size =/

Thanks in advance.


Jay
 

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No no lol. The hyper212 use a 120mm fan, that's mounted to the heatsink for a total of 159.7mm.

For the V2 they must have revamped the heatsink finally, if you follow that link all the way to the bottom you'll see the item description. It's listed there as 6.1" tall, which is 154.94mm. Every other iteration of the hyper212 (there's 5 or 6 over the last 10 years) has used the same heatsink/mount and only changed fans. The hyper212 black got a new mount.

CoolerMaster had beat that dead horse.. Dead.

But it's still, after all these years, decent. There are better and there's most definitely worse in that price range.

But does it fit.
 

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