CeBIT 2011: AMD Demos Llano Behind Closed Doors

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I might be an extreme case, as I currently use 2 computers similtaniously (bore Core 2 Duos, one desktop, one laptop) the desktop will be doing a full screen game, while the laptop has web browsers, music and/or music videos (and is sometimes streaming said music to others), IM, and so on.
 
Always have firefox (newest beta with gpu graphics) with like 11 or more tabs up with a game, (atm World of Tanks) and also maybe google docs or a pdf up at the same time.

This solution seems awesome for that workload.
Is there any way to make it so that you could use both your integrated card and also dedicated card at the same time? (And yes i mean at the same time, not switchable like optimus and such, so that I can have maximum performance in BOTH scenarios running in parallel)
Like have the integrated card take care of aero and gpu firefox and youtube and such, while having the dedicated card focus solely on game/rendering/etc. main graphics task.

That would be an awesome feature.
 
It will be interesting to see what the future holds.
Personally I'd like to see the graphics part get extremely powerful. Enough that you could buy a cheap laptop and play Crysis. (No jokes intended.) OR powerfull enough that we don't have to spend $250+ on video cards every 2 or 3 years just to keep the frame rates from dropping to 10fps. OR maybe these can be used to increase the performance of your descrete graphics (someday in the future)...
On the other hand not much of this will be nessary if cloud gaming becomes popular. But I think Onlive has thier work cut out for them. Currently I only have a modest desire to play the games they have available. It would be a different story if Steam gave the option of cloud gaming. Finally I could play games like Left for Dead 2 on my laptop! :)
 
Sorry for AMD, but it's too late. I've already delayed my scheduled upgrade from yonah to SB because ot the errata; cannot wait anymore for a new latop.
 
Would be nice to compare this w/ Sandy Bridge's QuickSync. That's the killer feature for HTPC's IMHO...transcoding to get rid of commercials w/o nearly zero cpu time...
 
Some thoughts on concurrent workloads that I run:

VirtualBox running Fedora 14, running make on a project using gcc.
VirtualBox running Solaris 11, running make on a project using gcc.
Video encoding/transcoding on Windows 7 Professional desktop.
Firefox with about 6-8 tabs.

 
AMD is definately on to something. It really irks me when my computer hangs even though cpu use is at 1-5%. Of course that is caused by the hard drive and AMD can't or won't address that issue (despite my repeated pleas for an integrated SSD controller!). But there is one situation that they should be able to address: watching a video on youtube and playing an adobe AIR based game like League of Legends. When I play a video in the background, my ingame framerate drops to 5 fps even though my video card is way beyond what the game requires. That sort of thing is irritating and worst of all there is not much discussion on the various forums. (Doesnt anyone play videos while gaming?) I have to download the clips and watch them on vlc player. (VLC works without a problem.)
 
My normal workload at home. Dual monitor setup, with a movie running on the 2nd monitor. Usually a game running on the primary monitor, as well has having at least one spreedsheet open, firefox with multiple windows open(some with additional tabs), and a half dozen other low profile apps open. Not counting other things in the system tray. I often have downloads going on in the background beyond that. If i dont have a movie playing on the 2nd monitor, i likely have music playing instead.

So yes, i definitely care if it can handle multitasking well or not. Single app performance is so 2000. There is no way id buy a dual core cpu anymore. Tho i still use a dual core at work and its sufficient for my workload there. I use a tri core at home and its completely sufficient for my workload.
 
A great workload would be downloading (a broadband hdtv movie) while watching a broadband hdtv movie while ripping multiple CD/DVD , extracting some RAR or more advanced encrypted files and a game paused in the background and running windows update. done this on a maxed out dual pentium III (without the hdtv) and never found an intel system since to do the same. the hardest workload was, you guest it, the windows update.
 
Integrated graphics is more than 80% of the PC market. Just think how many of the corporate PCs have discrete graphics? Almost none. How many people buy HP, Dell, Gateway, Acer for $5-600 with discrete graphics at Walmart, Costco, Best Buy etc ? Almost none. The portable market has ~98% integrated graphics, the PC market has ~80% integrated graphics. Whoever can offer the best (understand cheaper for OEM integration) good enough performing APU, will have the market advantage...AMD is doing quite well here. If they gain popularity with APU platform and start getting some Open CL applications, they can further target high performance systems, where NVidia's GPGPUs are currently the king. That is 50% + NET profit type of market, much better than the server market.

AMD's only risk is if ARM processor advance explosively and gain the mainstream desktop...My guess is, they have maybe a year or two before it happens. Intel is not scared of other architectures. Intel is the top process manufacturer, they can afford to make anything better and cheaper, including ARM if they decide so.

Anyway, LLano is a great technology, I hope AMD can market it smartly.
 
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[citation][nom]amk09[/nom]APU's are cool especially for cheap mobile gaming but I'm still looking forward to the more powerful CPU's AMD will be offering WITHOUT integrated graphics.[/citation]
Heck, I'd still be looking forward to the more powerful CPUs even if they DID have an on-die graphics processor. It never hurts to have a backup for the day your discrete card bites the dust... 😀
 
Currently I'm running:

VMware workstation with two 64bit FreeBSD servers running.
vSphere client running
two chrome windows with 8 tabs each(13 forum, pandora, facebook, gmail).

All being run on my laptop. This doesn't include everyday software: Office, anti-virus, media play, vlc. I need something smaller, lighter, and cooler, than my current 3.2lb i5. That happens I'll be first in line.
 
That only with sandy integrated video solution. Sandy processor is a lot more powerfull compared to amd new cpu. Can't wait to see CPU benchmark lol. But yeah for integrated video solution amd will lead if they put that on the market we cant judge on a prototype.
 
[citation][nom]t7yivn45hf[/nom]My normal workload at home. Dual monitor setup, with a movie running on the 2nd monitor. Usually a game running on the primary monitor, as well has having at least one spreedsheet open, firefox with multiple windows open(some with additional tabs), and a half dozen other low profile apps open. Not counting other things in the system tray. I often have downloads going on in the background beyond that. If i dont have a movie playing on the 2nd monitor, i likely have music playing instead.So yes, i definitely care if it can handle multitasking well or not. Single app performance is so 2000. There is no way id buy a dual core cpu anymore. Tho i still use a dual core at work and its sufficient for my workload there. I use a tri core at home and its completely sufficient for my workload.[/citation]

Why would you play a game and watch a movie on 2 monitor. Doesn't make any sense ! I guess you are the kind of guy that have a SLI config and play Counter-Strike 1.6
 
What about performance while multi-boxing? Running 2-4 game clients at once, all in windowed mode and viewed at the same time? Does one type of GPU handle it better than the other?
 
Good going amd....bring it as early as possible....if this APU can excel SB with its k10 stars architecture....then what gonna happen when fusion processors will be using bulldozer cores in 2012....but sadly then there will be ivy bridge too....
 
I was only suspecting that the APU would overpower the intel corei in graphics performance.
Do any serious number crunching, and even the mobile core i outpaces the AMD apu.

It's an interesting chip for those wanting to game, but AMD needs to seriously cut power on low power states. The majority of the time a used computer is passive, not active, and these mobile chips are aimed towards battery life,
So AMD really needs to get that bios bug fixed, and lower power to USB ports, inactive cores, and the graphics card when on standby; preferrably downclocking the whole system to a point where voltages can be set really low!
 
id like your benchmarks to have a more realistic setup of AVG or something running a scan in the background while something is downloading from the net, outlook and word should be open and a web browser. That is a more realistic workload for an average user. any dual core cpu should handle that. I dont thing the average user, or an advanced user, will ever do some cad modelling while running a game in the background and watching a video.......and since the cpu is aimed at general users is a pointless benchmark.
 
for me, multi tasking started back on win95 w/usb
pentium mmx 200mhz
pci 3D orchid 8mb
4gb ata66
128mb edo on an hp 17" crt
i would run IE for news or game mod searches and d/l, aol(for the IM w/ g/f and friends), winamp, total annihlation/starcraft/diablo/sin/rainbow6

now days winxp pro sp2
c2q9550
gtx275oc
3gb ddr2 1066
sata2 500gb7200rpmWD
always multitasked with:
IE/firefox with about 8-9 tabs for 6 news 2-3 youtube videos, office-(for taking notes about what i am reading watching on youtube), music or media player video, d/l'ing something directly or torrent, 1-2 mmopg 2005-8'ish game clients (graw2/supcom2/old @$$ diablo2/sc aerial view style games) and sometimes either ripping a cd/dvd or burning cd/dvd (sometimes disc2disc when i am running 1 game only), and occassionaly something like fraps for cheaters in the game.
all at the same time.
oh and occassionaly an IM like pidgin.
ya that's me on a daily basis, it's fun to have ADD, it keeps everybody else scratching their heads!
 
Academic level 3D level design workflow:
3dsMax, Mudbox and Photoshop, at the same time, working with multiple 4k image files.
Trying to do anything heavy while 3dsmax is rendering is the true test. 😀
 
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