celeron sucks??? or ??

[vk2amv]

What exactly do you mean? As far as technology the only thing the AMD CPU`s dont have compared to the P4 is SSE2 and the active thermal throttling.
AREA_51

'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

 

[endyen]

So, let us know what board you have. Make sure you get ad-aware, clean and defrag your hdd and lastly hit start, go to run, type in msconfig, click startup, and uncheck all the crap you dont need.Please dont tell us you have a gforce 2 mx video card, or worse, onboard video!!

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

omg

a pentium 4 2.4ghz is not slower than a AMD athlon xp 1700+. I know from experience that the 1600+ is slower that the 2ghz pentium 4 with 400mhz FSB. I know cos i ran several benchmarks and comapred the 2.

If a 2ghz can crush a 1600+ cpu, chances are a 2.4ghz can crush the 1700+ cpu.

how about compare EQUIVALENT level of hardware!

i'm sure i can find a pentium 200mhz, 128MB EDO RAM, and a motherboard cheaper than your athlon xp CPU as well.

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[vk2amv]

Did anyone ever claim that the 2.4Gighz Pee4 is slower than the 1700+. I am not aware of anyone claiming that. Clearly whiskey doesnt need 2.4gighz of power. Why would he have bought a CPU at 1.7Gighz in the first place? So a 1700+ is clearly a better choice for him it is closer to what he wants and also cheper than just getting a 2.4Gighz CPU alone.
AREA_51

'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

 

[whisky]

i dont have a geforce 2mx on board its not a great one but better than 2mx .. its radeon 9100 and my board accepts intel cpu's ... plus i started to believe my only problem is the CPU.. cos everything else in the computer is (not very good but ok) 9100 radeon + 512 ddr + 7200 rpm hard drive

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

i just needed to vent - i'm all good now. my bad.

wanna fix my "endpoint format is invalid" error? i'll give you this map that leads to treasure! *goes insane and twicthes* - common it's just a treasure map! muhahahahahaha!!!

lol - need sleep .... second day in a row fixing compter and reinstalled windows 3 times - i think finally have found the problem though *yawns*

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[tombance]

Im sure you could build a shitty system out of that then sell it to the grandma next door for $800. Ive managed to sell a PII 350 system for £270 which is about $500.

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[tombance]

Yeah sk8er I only said it would perform better if overclocked to 2.1Ghz, I know that the 2.4 would kick its ass at stock speeds.

Oh and btw Im not the person who upgrades every 6 months. Ive seen many people (perhaps you) who have run to go and get a Canterwood mobo with a 3.0Ghz 800FSB chip. Unfortunately I dont have the £500 ($750 approx) just a motherbaord and that processor would cost me in the UK. On the other hand a 1700+ and an MSI 745 Ultra cost me only about £100 (about $150). I must also add that I have had this system for about a year and a half and am not planning on upgrading for another 6 months - 1 year.

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[tombance]

To justify my choice of AMD:

P4 3.0 800FSB Retail - £362.46
Asus P4C800 non deluxe - £148.69
Total - £511.15 including VAT or about $760

From www.komplett.co.uk (cheapest prices I can find)

Now can you see why I don't buy Intel products ATM. Until I become REALLY Rich I'm going to have to stick to AMD.

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[whisky]

yeah intel stuff are really expensive..

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

hey hey hey don't blame me! my compouter keeps breaking every 6 months!!! i'm too tired to argue and this is dumb anyway .. it's all good ...

laterz

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[whisky]

well .. i love my computer ... its like loving ur car.. i dont know.. i would love to change things inside it every 2 months if i had the money ..

 

[whisky]

celerons would be really good if there was a 15Ghz one ..

 

[eden]

And in comes Prescott at 4GHZ kicking it out of the curb....

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If I could see the Matrix, I'd tell you I am only seeing 0s inside your head! :tongue:

 

[whisky]

whats that ?? prestroportcort??? 4ghz?? that overclocked thing ??

 

[namek0]

Something that drives me crazy about Celeron cpus, it that on all of the crappy Wal-Mart/Gateway machines it always says something like:

"surf the interent at blazing speeds with the new Celeron 1.7ghz" or some crap like that

I wish I could get a better connection by having a faster processor, lol

And I'm a loyal AMD fan, mainly because of the price/performance

It's all good ^_^

 

[whisky]

yeah its funny that they write those kind of things.. though it is really painfull trying to surf the web with a pentium 133 ))) cos it takes so long to open 2 explorer windows at the same time it must be what they mean by that .. does it apply to ppl who has PII450 and above ... i dont think so 😛

 

[eden]

Absolute newbie customer steps into store: "Hi, I'm looking for some computer advice."
Store clerk approaches him, shady look: "What is your current system sir?"
Customer: "I have a 1.6 Gigahertz, it's like, very fast!"
Store clerk: "Sir, we just got the new 1.7GHZ Intel (Celeron), you have no idea what you're missing out on! A whole world of difference! Honest!"

*Customer shells out the money...*

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If I could see the Matrix, I'd tell you I am only seeing 0s inside your head! :tongue:

 

[Lamoni]

I just wanted to say that I still think that the Pentium 4 could be a better choice.

You could get an AMD system for about $120.00 (nForce2 motherboard and AXP 1700+) but you will need to spend a little extra to get a fan, or go with a retail CPU for about $25 more.

An Intel system would cost you a little less if you went with a P4 1.8 GHz cpu and it would come with a fan. Or you could go with the P4 2.4 GHz for $160.00.

You did mention Doom III, so a faster CPU will be better. Also, you will also want to look at a better video card if you want to play doom 3 with good graphics.

The AMD system would be nice only if you overclock it, but that would also raise the price by about 10 dollars to get a good fan instead of a cheap one.

So, AMD = $155 and overclocks to P4 2.4GHz speeds.
and Intel = $160 is simpler and needs no overclocking.

Looking at price, there is little difference which says a lot for AMD... you would also get the better sound from the nForce2.

But the savings doesn't beat the convenience of dropping in a P4 in my opinion. I am sure you already came to this conclusion from the 150 previous posts, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Now you just need to rush out and buy something so we can all shut up. This was such a simple thread and it ended up being 4 times longer than most threads with difficult questions.

 

[slvr_phoenix]

yeah its funny that they write those kind of things.. though it is really painfull trying to surf the web with a pentium 133 ))) cos it takes so long to open 2 explorer windows at the same time it must be what they mean by that .. does it apply to ppl who has PII450 and above ... i dont think so 😛

Hey, as a Pentium 133 owner I resent that kind of FUD. <i>My</i> P133 surfs the web just peachy-keen. In fact, even my 486-66MHz system can surf the web without much of a lag. Surfing the web is all about RAM, hard drive speed, and modem speed. Processor speed doesn't even matter.

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[slvr_phoenix]

hey hey hey don't blame me! my compouter keeps breaking every 6 months!!!

xxsk8er101xx, you must be joking... right? I mean if that's <i>really</i> true then you must be <i>the</i> worst PC technician that I've ever heard of.

I've kept an old PoS OEM Celeron 500 system in a microATX format (except for the power supply, which is even smaller) alive for years. I had to duct-tape an extra drive bay in just to add my extra 8GB hard drive, and I had to drill holes for a front intake fan, but the system is still alive and doing just fine. The <i>only</i> time that it even actually broke down was that after upgrading to the additional hard drive, CD burner, adding the intake fan, and increasing the RAM the power supply was finally too wimpy. One more upgrade later and violla, stability for life.

(And by the way, all of the components that went into the Celeron 500 except for the RAM and the power supply came from my Pentium 133 when it suffered a power surge from a lightning storm, after six years of operating flawlessly.)

If that PoS Celeron can stay running for years straight then why the heck can't you keep actually good hardware running more than six months at a time?

<font color=purple><pre><b>There are 10 types of people in this world: those who can understand binary and those who can't.</b></pre><p></font color=purple>

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

do you know what an a$$hole is? it's you. yes you are an a$$hole. you are a tight anal retentive bastard who's probably a pedophile. You never got laid and no girl likes you and thinks you're ugly. so you go around being an a$$hole to everyone that can't go up to you and physicaly punch you because no one likes you. You fat a$$ loser!

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[slvr_phoenix]

I love you too xxsk8er101xx, even if you can't keep a PC built with quality parts running for more than six months at a time.

<font color=purple><pre><b>There are 10 types of people in this world: those who can understand binary and those who can't.</b></pre><p></font color=purple>

 

[eden]

It is funny when you think about it. He preached against VIA and AMD for so long about their unstable chipsets and systems, yet his keeps breaking apart. Kinda hypocritical no?

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[lumper]

whiskey,
i would say weigh it out, as mentioned for around 120$ you can go to an nforce 2 / xp1700+ combo which will run circles around your current rig, and it will overclock with good memory.
i would think in your case it would be a great way to go, and again you can sell the celeron mobo combo to someone, even at a loss to offset the 120$ upgrade would be worth it.
breaking even on the dollars but getting 3 times the platform.


and tombits,

you said, "To justify my choice of AMD:

P4 3.0 800FSB Retail - £362.46
Asus P4C800 non deluxe - £148.69
Total - £511.15 including VAT or about $760"

but you can get the springdale board and a 2.4 intel p4 usa anyway for $300 together, i know cause i ordered them both yesterday.

and they will perform close to the new canterwood you priced and will smoke any nforce2 amd combo that im aware of to date anyway.

barton 3200+ = $535.00
nforce 2 asus board about $100
thats over $600 for a system that wont compete with the springdale setup which cost half as much, so think it over.

yes in past dollar for performance amd all the way.
in light of the recent findings with hyperthreaded 800 fsb springdale motherboards an ht chips in the 120$ range puts intel in the game in a big way for best bange for the buck.

i ordered a raptor hd, 512 of pc 3200 and the asus p4p and 2.4 cpu all for around $700, the whole rig is almost as much as just the xp3200+ with mobo.

so i say the opposite , why spend more money for less performance, yes you can spend less and get less if thats what you want, but performance vs dollars.......