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I may've been mistaken, but I thought the 3090 was geared towards 8k, and the 3080 for 4k. Nonetheless, I can confirm that 8k is likely out of what I'm willing to pay for a screen.
Yes its marketing all gimmicks. There are maybe 3 8k monitors and no body can afford it unless you can afford a porsche. The Del 32" 8k is not even 144hz. Ya the 3090 is geared towards 4k same with 3090Ti when it comes out. This 8k gaming is non sense out of the horses mouth. A nice 4k 144hz screen with a 3090 will set you back close to four thousand dollars and even then you will have a measily 27" screen. I don't know what your trying to do here, hit the home run before actually getting a single and getting on base. Once your sure on what resolution and what fps you demans because 4k resolution wont get you 144fps to match a gaming monitor. The 2080Ti barely gave 60fps. The 3090 will give 100fps. So you won't get your monitors refresh rate any how. Honestly best is 2k gaming with all nVidia panel settings turned on and maxed out and everything set to high or ultra in game and you will get your 144fps on any AAA titles with the 3090. 🤷‍♂️✌♻
 

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Yes its marketing all gimmicks. There are maybe 3 8k monitors and no body can afford it unless you can afford a porsche. The Del 32" 8k is not even 144hz. Ya the 3090 is geared towards 4k same with 3090Ti when it comes out. This 8k gaming is non sense out of the horses mouth. A nice 4k 144hz screen with a 3090 will set you back close to four thousand dollars and even then you will have a measily 27" screen. I don't know what your trying to do here, hit the home run before actually getting a single and getting on base. Once your sure on what resolution and what fps you demans because 4k resolution wont get you 144fps to match a gaming monitor. The 2080Ti barely gave 60fps. The 3090 will give 100fps. So you won't get your monitors refresh rate any how. Honestly best is 2k gaming with all nVidia panel settings turned on and maxed out and everything set to high or ultra in game and you will get your 144fps on any AAA titles with the 3090. 🤷‍♂️✌♻
I didn't even know 3090ti would be a thing.
 

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Just an FYI, up until about last year, my i7-3770K and gtx970 was doing just fine for my dual 1080p monitors. Grand total was $600 when I put the pc together. I really don't expect games to become so complex and crazy required components to ever see a 10700k/3080 become obsolete, never mind a 10900k/3090, before changes to current architecture and materials are obsolete. Intel is still having issues getting performance out of 7nm, nevermind the @ 5nm that'll be the end of a silicon cpu.
 
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So guys, I've just seen this. I don't know how this includes the screen, but is still only 100 over 4k. Did they pick mediocre parts?
 

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Define mediocre. A 3700x to a 10900k is a mediocre part comparison, but plenty of cpu power for anything realistic in gaming. A 2070Super is mediocre compared to a 3090, yet is still plenty for 1080p/1440p gaming.

A $2k price tag is mediocre compared to the imagined must of a $4k pc, yet realistically the difference is negligible since people cannot see the difference between fps over 150ish, even if you had a monitor that'd actually push 240Hz, of which there is only One that I know of.

Spend 4k today, and in 2 years when Ampere successor comes out, 11th gen Intel drops, Ryzen Successor etc, what then? The $700 4070 just as powerful as today's $1500 3090? That already happened, $1500 2080ti and $500 3070 knocking heads...

$4k for a gaming pc that uses standard cooling and looks like a $2k pc is a waste, pure and simple. Spend $2k today, in 2-3 years rebuild with another $2k and end up with something more powerful than what can be bought for $4k today. Do the math.
 
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Define mediocre. A 3700x to a 10900k is a mediocre part comparison, but plenty of cpu power for anything realistic in gaming. A 2070Super is mediocre compared to a 3090, yet is still plenty for 1080p/1440p gaming.

A $2k price tag is mediocre compared to the imagined must of a $4k pc, yet realistically the difference is negligible since people cannot see the difference between fps over 150ish, even if you had a monitor that'd actually push 240Hz, of which there is only One that I know of.

Spend 4k today, and in 2 years when Ampere successor comes out, 11th gen Intel drops, Ryzen Successor etc, what then? The $700 4070 just as powerful as today's $1500 3090? That already happened, $1500 2080ti and $500 3070 knocking heads...

$4k for a gaming pc that uses standard cooling and looks like a $2k pc is a waste, pure and simple. Spend $2k today, in 2-3 years rebuild with another $2k and end up with something more powerful than what can be bought for $4k today. Do the math.
Good inquiry. I myself don't really have a definition, though. I just want to see others input on that build.

In your own view, how would you rate it? Anything you dislike about it?

 

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No, nothing actually. It's a well thought out build. But the case is a personal item, so is easily changed, and the monitor is the expensive item, a 4k @ 144Hz. Personally I'd rather go with a 49" 1440p Super ultra wide, that's 2x 1440p without the center edges. But thats me, I don't like single monitor setups, too restrictive.
 
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No, nothing actually. It's a well thought out build. But the case is a personal item, so is easily changed, and the monitor is the expensive item, a 4k @ 144Hz. Personally I'd rather go with a 49" 1440p Super ultra wide, that's 2x 1440p without the center edges. But thats me, I don't like single monitor setups, too restrictive.
It looks like you could get a LED-type case for a few hundred cheaper.
 

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Hi, a lot has been said here, and honestly if you can invest that much money, I would really get a high resolution display with at least 144Hz from day one.
For me it was awesome to go from 1080p to 1440p (only 60Hz), is amazing to be able to see more info on your screen.
I would have gone with a 4K display if it was posible back then, but I could not found any monitor where I live.

So really at least a 27 inches - 1440p - 144Hz gsync its the least I would get for something like an RTX 3080/3090. (There are other monitors that are compatible too, the list don't show them all: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/)

Of course is posible to play with a 1080p monitor but you I feel you would be wasting such s a high end card (unless 1080p ultra high refresh rate ( 360Hz) esports is your thing).

Otherwise it will be like using one of the top 10 Supercomputers for editing a word document.

Anyways, if you wana go crazy heres my recommendation, lets hope intel 11th gen bring pcie 4.0 to take the full advantage of that sweet Sabrent drive I included (it will work with pcie 3.0 no problem) . One drive for the OS and usual programs, one drive for games, and another for documents. And probably one of the best IPS, 27 inches, 1440p, high refresh monitors you can get for the money.

Later on of course, when available, replace the RTX 2080TI with the RTX 3xxx of your choice.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($393.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($1201.49 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($258.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($16.49 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($16.49 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $3764.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-10 19:45 EDT-0400

PD: As other wrote, this is really overkill for gaming at any resolution, and it should last you a good while. Still you could build a very, very good gaming PC, that will also last you a good while, including the monitor I used for a lot less, but was the fun of that right :)


Cheers!
 
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Hi, a lot has been said here, and honestly if you can invest that much money, I would really get a high resolution display with at least 144Hz from day one.
For me it was awesome to go from 1080p to 1440p (only 60Hz), is amazing to be able to see more info on your screen.
I would have gone with a 4K display if it was posible back then, but I could not found any monitor where I live.

So really at least a 27 inches - 1440p - 144Hz gsync its the least I would get for something like an RTX 3080/3090. (There are other monitors that are compatible too, the list don't show them all: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/)

Of course is posible to play with a 1080p monitor but you I feel you would be wasting such s a high end card (unless 1080p ultra high refresh rate ( 360Hz) esports is your thing).

Otherwise it will be like using one of the top 10 Supercomputers for editing a word document.

Anyways, if you wana go crazy heres my recommendation, lets hope intel 11th gen bring pcie 4.0 to take the full advantage of that sweet Sabrent drive I included (it will work with pcie 3.0 no problem) . One drive for the OS and usual programs, one drive for games, and another for documents. And probably one of the best IPS, 27 inches, 1440p, high refresh monitors you can get for the money.

Later on of course, when available, replace the RTX 2080TI with the RTX 3xxx of your choice.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($393.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($1201.49 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($258.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($16.49 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($16.49 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $3764.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-10 19:45 EDT-0400

PD: As other wrote, this is really overkill for gaming at any resolution, and it should last you a good while. Still you could build a very, very good gaming PC, that will also last you a good while, including the monitor I used for a lot less, but was the fun of that right :)


Cheers!
It does looks beastly, but I don't think I'd require that much storage. Any reason you picked an i7 instead of an i9?
 

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I cant see spending 400 bucks for a motherboard, 230 on memory, and 260 on a power supply. So I'm still here.

Add a RTX 3080 about 800 bucks and a 1440p monitor and your all set.

A bunch of money not spent because it's not needed you could add some RGB lighting if you like to.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor | $393.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler | $89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | $189.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | $104.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage | Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $229.99 @ Adorama
Case | Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case | $161.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $139.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1380.72
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-07 19:06 EDT-0400 |

EDIT the 10700K will last a long time for gaming and the 3080 video card is supposed to be killer, 32GB of memory you will never need to add more, with a full 2TB SSD for the games.

Puts you in the 2600 / 2800 area after buying a new monitor and windows.
 

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It does looks beastly, but I don't think I'd require that much storage. Any reason you picked an i7 instead of an i9?
OK, too beestly, well it was indeed an overkill build with many components that didn't make much sense, and as Zerk2012 wrote the i7 should be enough for a long time. But since you seems to really like the i9 idea heres another one (you need to add the right RTX 3xxx card later on):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor ($487.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($296.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($162.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2024.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-11 08:32 EDT-0400



Cheers
 
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I'm just confused by all the threads using top tier cpu's for high resolution with little benefit. When the reviews come out next week we'll see how things play out.

When at 4k the 3600x will achieve almost the same framerates as any high end cpu.

At 1440p the difference is ~10 FPS depending on the game.

If I were looking at a 3080/3090 I'd get purchase the pc components that will allow the budget to include a nice 4k monitor. Sure, a 3950x or 10900k is a great cpu, but it's dumping money into a build with no tangible benefit.
 

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I'm just confused by all the threads using top tier cpu's for high resolution with little benefit. When the reviews come out next week we'll see how things play out.
-Sheep mentality
-Futureproofing nonsense
-Wanting 'the best', even if it's not practical
-I've got the money, so why not

I might bring it up value once or twice, and not bother anymore; let 'em find out the hard way. Sometimes, that's the best lesson.
If they're happy with what they get, they shouldn't care what anyone else says or thinks - or I thought it'd be that way, but some of the big spenders do eventually compare their builds to others, only to get peeved off, because they're not totally dusting builds that invested much less...
Small world we live in...
 
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if you're into high quality stuff, don't forget about the sound.

getting a sound blasterZ with an audiophile pair of headphones was life changing for me.


about gaming with a 1080p or 1440p screen, just get a 1080ti used for a fraction of the price of those new cards.
and yes the 1080ti is still overkill for that.

about CPU power, a r5 3600 can run everything available now and at least for 2-3 years. and could be upgraded on the spot if needed in future.
the only game i know of that would benefit from more CPU power is No Man Sky VR. but that game is a special case

and if money if really burning your hand, just invest into a nice custom watercooling loop. price is high at the beginning but when you upgrade, at most you just need to buy a new waterblock, that's it. It would allow you to run things OC'd at very low noise.
 
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I'm just confused by all the threads using top tier cpu's for high resolution with little benefit. When the reviews come out next week we'll see how things play out.

When at 4k the 3600x will achieve almost the same framerates as any high end cpu.

At 1440p the difference is ~10 FPS depending on the game.

If I were looking at a 3080/3090 I'd get purchase the pc components that will allow the budget to include a nice 4k monitor. Sure, a 3950x or 10900k is a great cpu, but it's dumping money into a build with no tangible benefit.
Yeah, that's what I want to see: comparison. Supposedly the 3090 is geared towards 8k; but as the other user stated, that could be just marketing. It may not be great as suggested.
 

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