China Pushes Censorship Amidst Google Threat

[Marcus Yam]

China says it's their way or the highway.

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[MitchMeister-]

I say screw em. A free open source company like Google has no place in an obviously fascist country that censors and restricts everything. If they don't want Google, why should Google want to stay? (minus the obvious 6 billion clicks...)

 

[CoderDunn]

Is anyone really surprised?

Looks like there is actually a good chance google will abandon china ...

Of course then china will just release it's own search engine that censors every website that doesn't praise the republic.

 

[Shadow703793]

Chinese law prohibits hacking and other forms of online attacks.

O RLY?

I'm sure the Chinese gov't spends $$$ on training hackers for the Chinese Cyber Army.

 

[porksmuggler]

It's ok they don't need Google when they have Bi-ying

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/opinion/lweb13microsoft.html
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/11/will-you-boycott-bing.ars

 

[starryman]

This whole censorship non-sense is just smoke screen. Google cries censorship but China has 6 billion people with growing incomes. BMW launched it's flagship 7 series in China. Rolls Royce sells more cars in China (including Hong Kong) than any other place. It's clear and evident that the Chinese want a cut of the search engine pie and doesn't want Google to conduct business without any kick backs. Bottom line, Google has much more to lose than China. Google "threatening" to leave... ha ha. That's like threatening a super hot chick that you don't want to boink her. In my book Google as of late acts quite communist itself - very controlling and snooping around everyone's gmail and google services. Talk about big brother.

 

[Upendra09]

Google can't go ahead with it, it would take a humongous bite into their sales

 

[Gin Fushicho]

Well , Google should get the hell out of there as fast as they can I say, China sounds pissed. If they were dealing with the North Koreans they wouldn't have a building left by now.

 

[Guest]

People living in the US cry bloody murder whenever the topic of other countries censoring thing is brought up.

I just want to point out that the US censors also. We decide that child pornography is not ok but adult pornography is. It's a matter of degree what we think is censorship worthy and what is not and there is not necessarily a moral high ground to take.

I'm sure there are people in the states that would like some more control on the media their children are exposed to and that's very close to censorship.

China goes too far in this from our point of view but who is to say where we draw the line is the perfect place?

 

[Guest]

is simple that if you want to deal with the chinese government you have to follow their rule or else go away. why that google keep want to stay in china. if google goes away I bet yahoo will rise.

 

[trih]

Fuck China! I wish companies would stop producing there to teach the communists a lesson.

 

[maestintaolius]

I just hope Google cleaned out their China offices of anything important or valuable. I know of two companies in my industry that had equipment that got "lost" (i.e. seized by the gov't). When the Chinese gov't found out that the companies planned to move operations to another country.

 

[azetec]

Google is upset because China spies Google better than Google spies China.

If u look better at Google they are nothing more than a spy machine since they scan all the internet sites that's nothing more than spying.

 

[jincongz]

[citation][nom]mitchmeister-[/nom]I say screw em. A free open source company like Google has no place in an obviously fascist country that censors and restricts everything. If they don't want Google, why should Google want to stay? (minus the obvious 6 billion clicks...)[/citation]
Did you just say Fascist? This is how ignorant you are about China, so you shouldn't even be talking.

 

[jblack]

[citation][nom]starryman[/nom]China has 6 billion people with growing incomes. [/citation]

China has 1.3 billion people. Not 6 billion.

 

[azetec]

BTW Google is not a search engine it's a spy engine

 

[frozenlead]

[citation][nom]azetec[/nom]BTW Google is not a search engine it's a spy engine[/citation]
You obviously know nothing about search engine technology.

[citation][nom]starryman[/nom]BMW launched it's flagship 7 series in China. Rolls Royce sells more cars in China (including Hong Kong) than any other place. [/citation]

Buying high-priced items doesn't make someone better than someone else. If ignorance makes you rich, I'd rather be poor. [citation]

[nom]setoo[/nom]I just want to point out that the US censors also. We decide that child pornography is not ok but adult pornography is. [/citation]

The US is far less censored than other countries (point in case, the article above). Sure, you can't get child porn...but really? Come on. It's child porn for god sakes...that ruins kids' lives - whereas a politically-aligned or intellectual website doesn't. At least US citizens can get get access to whatever political or technical content they want.

 

[azetec]

@frozenlead - since u deny a truth everything you continue saying it's a lie

 

[porksmuggler]

Apparently I needed to put /sarcasm on my post above.

When you have companies like Micro$oft eager to enter the Chinese market, and willing to censor, and Baidu already there complying to the governments every wish, Google has made the best decision.

 

[twu]

Yeah.. go away and let my Baidu stocks rock.
Why Google suddenly cares about privacy?
Wait, Google can invade other people's privacy, steal and sell for $$$ but Google cries when others invade Google.

 

[frozenlead]

[citation][nom]azetec[/nom]@frozenlead - since u deny a truth everything you continue saying it's a lie[/citation]
...that doesn't even make sense? I've no idea what you're trying to say. You didn't prove/provide proof of what you said. I'm not inclined to believe it. I think you're confusing 'spying' with web crawling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawling

 

[brother shrike]

communism != facism. In fact, they're kind of at opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[Drag0nR1der]

[citation][nom]starryman[/nom]... In my book Google as of late acts quite communist itself - very controlling and snooping around everyone's gmail and google services. Talk about big brother.[/citation]


Acting 'communist' do you even understand the words you use? Look up the word communist and see what it says, now go and realise what complete nonsense your statement actually is. The Big Brother syndrome is not linked to communism any more than it is capitalism. Gods i hate people who just trot out the same brainwashed 'communism is bad m'kay' without understanding what they are actually talking about. Shame you had to ruin your post with such ill informed twaddle, because apart from that you make a good point.

 

[Guest]

okay, azetec, if google is a spy engine, then all search engines are spy engines

 

[xkm121]

I just feel sad. Soon the internet in China will become a massive LAN. Feel sorry for Chinese people, they can't decide what they want and what they DON'T want for themselves.