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Once again thank you t8rr8r for the detailed responses! Well I had plans on purchasing the DS3R from gigabyte, but the board is so picky on the ram, I couldn't find any good prices. Thus, I looked into the Asus p5k and I do not see any ram specifications.
Would a pair of these rams fit into the asus p5k seeing that there is no ram specification?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145034

And after trying to study that wattage page again, I realized its quite simple in how to use it. It said I need about 390 wattage, which seems to fine with my 400 watt. I don't plan on over clocking too much. Maybe from a 2.14 to 2.5 or 2.8 if I could.

Btw: what is tdp stand for on the wattage page? (and how do i know if my computer is a high end or regular desktop?)

I am however, curious, if I could use two different units of psu for my computer? I'd use my regular psu for the whole computer, then hook up my fans+graphics card to my other hard drive. Will this work or would I need the 24 pin to go in something?
 
TDP is thermal design power

& in answer to your earlier question " What is the difference between the abit ip35 pro and regular version?"
primarily uGuru (hardware monitor/fan control/LED POST reporter), a 2nd Gb NIC, different layout (2nd physical x16 PCI-E slot, SATA ports turned side on), 2 eSATA ports.
 
Thanks for all the help everyone. I think I'm pretty much set. I just want to confirm if these pair of rams will fit in to my new asus p5k motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145034

If anyone has better suggestions for ram for a decent price then feel free to post them. Otherwise, thanks once again for all the help =]
 
Hey T8RR8R, Im was pretty shocked on how helpfull all of your posts have been that Ive read. Im in the middle of a completly fresh build, with a budget of 2k. I was wondering if your could email me and we could tlak about wha tcomponents Im choosing and such. Thanks man, bye. JacobTMason@GMail.com
 
Sorry not to be specific, but I'm planning to purchase the ASUS P5K LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131180

Along with the zalman 9500 (which is confirmed to fit in my xion case by a user from above)
And the CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Ram chips
As well as some A/S 5 thermal paste

This isn't too much for my budget right now. I'm just checking that my current ram chips will fit in with this motherboard thats all. =]

 
I'd probably go with either of these 2 boards over the P5K,

GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048, it just allows you to use DDR3 at a later on. I don't think DDR3 is worth it right now, but having the upgrade path is nice.

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050, same price as the P5K and just as feature-full. Gigabyte is known for having really good boards and ASUS seems to be slipping a little lately on the BIOS end.

If you decide to stick with the ASUS board check out their QVL on their website for that board. It'll show you all the ram modules that are 100% supported.
 
the Asus has shown in all the reviews to use noticeably (30W) more power than the abit & Gigabytes.
If you're marginal on your PSU that could make a difference.

& yes, you can get secondary PSUs to power your gfx card seperately.
 
Well I have a new proposition to look at today. I have a powersupply that I can pick up from my friend that is 550 watt from antec, but its one of the older models and it has been used for 4 months.

Here are the stats for the PSU.
http://www.antec.com/specs/true550_spe.html

I think psu is not as stable as my enermax liberty 400w, but it does produce more watts.

I also looked into the ds3r and p35c version of them as well. However, I really can't find some decent rams for them that are of good price. If you do have decent rams for a good price on newegg with good speeds and timing then please share with me. It would save me so much trouble! (I also tried to look on the gigabyte website for the ram listings, but half the pdf file doesn't load?)

Please advise me to either go with the 550w antec or keep my enermax liberty 400w... and if there are good rams for the ds3r, please feel free to post them. Perhaps I looked in the wrong places for the ram.

(So, if I can use two different PSU's to power my system. Would I plug my 24 pin from my Liberty 400w into my whole system, then use my 275 watt from dell (also a stable PSU) to power my graphics card/fans without plugging the 4 pins into the mobo?)

Once again much thanks to the two posters up there. Especially t8rr8r.. your of great help!
 
Great stuff from t8rr8r on overclocking, but DON'T use carburetor cleaner to remove thermal compound. It contains oils that get into the same cracks the thermal compound is supposed to fill, preventing it from working properly. Use only the 91% alcohol.
 
So is it confirmed that these two pieces of ram will work on the ds3r board? Because if it does work, will my DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Corsair ram chips work as well? I'd liek to take my old ram and put it into my new system.

And the other question I still had was about how to use dual PSU and if it is recommended. (or should I put that older version of th 550watt antec psu?)
 



That's true about carb cleaner, I usually just use that to clean off all the old thermal paste, then I use 90%+ alcohol to finish off the job. I'm gonna go back and edit that part in, I guess I missed it before.
 
Sorry for the double post guys, but I thought I'd address this with along everyone else.



I don't want to sound rude but I'd rather keep it in the forums for a couple of reasons...

:pfff: 1) CRAP MAIL: I don't want 30,000 emails from people sending junk, signing me up for porn sites, giving me viruses and all that. I would also hate to have a bunch of people on here giving up their email addresses to the public viewer.

:non: 2) LIABILITY: When people start emailing back and forth it becomes more personal and I don't want to be held responsible of you don't understand something and end up blowing up your computer that catches your house and fire and burns down your whole entire town.

:hello: 3) PUBLIC INFO: When you ask a question it's possible that someone else has the same question or possibly has a lack of understanding about something. So when we toss back and forth info and question on here you'll also helping your fellow geek :)

:??: 4) MISTAKES: We all make mistakes and although I try and edit mine as much as possible, sometimes it's just not gonna happen. I'm on here the most later at night between 8pm and 4am, and the later it gets the more retarded I get. So the later it get's the more often I leave things out or make more typos. ALSO sometimes I like to get totally drunk and messed up and I wouldn't want to take it out on someone through email.

5) ENGLISH: If you don't have at least 3rd grade level spelling and grammar skills things get too confusing, although I will admit this isn't really only an email problem it's a universal internet forum issue. Typos and mistakes happens though.

6) SEARCH: This is also one of those non-specific email things. Don't ask questions on here or through email that could easily be solved by a simple search of google, yahoo, msn...the list goes on. Try and find out on your own 1st.

There are some occasions that I will converse through email though and they are...

1) If you have the hardware board I do and have questions, or you could help me then you could email me with prior notice....right now I'd like to know if I could put a water block on the southbridge with an 8800GTS.

2) If you are part of my family you can email me(duh).

3) If I see your posts on here a billion times, then maybe it'd be ok if you ask so nicely.
 
Lol, thats nice to know what kind of method you guys use to clean your processor. I'll just probably use some rubbing alcohol to clean it off, otherwise i'll just scarp it off. I'm not too concerned with the old glue and stuff.

I still have my three questions though. Seeing that it is confirmed that these ram chips will run on the ds3r mobo, which of the two companies will be better? The crucial or the g skill? (I don't know why but i didn't see neither of these two items on the gigabyte website.)

And my second question is, will my old pair of SDDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Corsair ram chips work as well? I'd like to take my old ram and put them into my new system as well.

And for my last question, I am still in an indecisive stage in to whether to use two different PSU's or purchase an antec single 12v rail 550 watt PSU for 40 bucks? http://www.antec.com/specs/true550_spe.html (I have about 4 psu's at home, but i want to really really confirm if it is possible to use two psu's on one computer. I've never seen it or heard about it thats why I'm a little indecisive.)

Thanks for the quick responses you guys. I'll be purchasing my parts by tonight so I hope all my questions are answered asap.
 
I'll leave the PSU and mixed ram speeds questions to someone else with more experience. My gut feeling is that although you can put your old slower ram into the board it will affect the overall speed - is that right guys?

In terms of preference, I'd go with Crucial for the proven reliability and D9 Micron chips. I'm getting the same for my new system next week - except I'm buying it in the UK for £85 rather than from newegg for $85 - which means I'm paying exactly twice the price!!
 
can someone please help me choose a good ram with my board? I'm pretty sure I'm getting the gigabyte ds3r because I don't plan on purchasing any ddr3 chips soon.

Is it also true how the new p35 boards have a built in music licensening checker?... in which if i dont have the licenses to the song, my computer the board would not let me play the song?
 
damn it, the crucial mail in rebate passed last night, now I have to look into another good deal pair. Should I still go for the crucial memory, or would a pair of these fit the ds3r board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227198

(Sorry to continually ask if my ram chips will fit. The pdf file on the gigabyte site is only loading half the document every time i click on it and thus I can't search for the pc800 ram chips.)
 
That link I posted was supposed to be the list from Gigabyte but there's a message saying the links have changed, etc. Must've happened today!

I've just had another look and (this is strange) the model above, the DDR2 1066, is listed as compatible (but it's in the DDR2 800 section!). I assume that if that one is supported then the 800 should be but you may want some further clarification.
 
gigabyte's website won't have all the rams supported just because there are just too many on the market for them to test them all. try sticking with a well known name. I'm planning on a very simalar build to yours basing it on the ga-p35-ds3r also. I'm matching it with an e6750 and an evga 8600gts. I"m reusing hard drives and sound cards but I"m going to upgrade my psu to a modular unit and the last thing I need to figure out is the ram. I'm either going to go with crucial or ocz. which ever will have the better price for 2 gigs. right now the ocz gold is only 63 bucks at newegg after MIR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227124
 
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