Cloning IDE to SATA drive

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Hi, I have a Asus K8V SE Deluxe (VIA chipset) and I want to clone my Maxtor
80 gig IDE drive to a 200 gig Western Digital SATA drive.

I have Windows XP

I only thing I figured out how to get the SATA drive working was to install
a new copy of windows by installing the VIA drivers during/before
installation (F6)

Once I acomplished this (only way to get the SATA drive to be recognized), I
used Ghost to clone the Maxtor to the Western Digital and it seemed to work,
but when booting the WD drive it would never boot all the way into windows.
(got stuck at the blue screen with the window xp logo, mouse (cursor) would
work)

Is it possible to clone (if so, how?)
or do I have to start all over with a new copy of Windows if I want to use
the SATA drive?

Extra info: The SATA drive shows up as a SCSI drive in the device manager.

Thanx, Tom

(side question: is the SATA drive info supposed to show up in the bios
where the ide drive stats are?) (primary, secondary)
 
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Maxtor use to have a drive overlay and setup program called Max Drive or
EZ-Drive. It had a Utility to clone a drive. You might try that.

TOM B WILSON wrote:
> Hi, I have a Asus K8V SE Deluxe (VIA chipset) and I want to clone my Maxtor
> 80 gig IDE drive to a 200 gig Western Digital SATA drive.
>
> I have Windows XP
>
> I only thing I figured out how to get the SATA drive working was to install
> a new copy of windows by installing the VIA drivers during/before
> installation (F6)
>
> Once I acomplished this (only way to get the SATA drive to be recognized), I
> used Ghost to clone the Maxtor to the Western Digital and it seemed to work,
> but when booting the WD drive it would never boot all the way into windows.
> (got stuck at the blue screen with the window xp logo, mouse (cursor) would
> work)
>
> Is it possible to clone (if so, how?)
> or do I have to start all over with a new copy of Windows if I want to use
> the SATA drive?
>
> Extra info: The SATA drive shows up as a SCSI drive in the device manager.
>
> Thanx, Tom
>
> (side question: is the SATA drive info supposed to show up in the bios
> where the ide drive stats are?) (primary, secondary)
>
>
>
 
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"I have Windows XP"

You have my sympathy.

"I only thing I figured out how to get the SATA drive working was to
install a new copy of windows by installing the VIA drivers during/before
installation (F6)"

No. You could have installed the drivers in your working copy of Windows,
with the new drive installed alongside the old.

"Once I acomplished this (only way to get the SATA drive to be recognized),
I used Ghost to clone the Maxtor to the Western Digital and it seemed to
work, but when booting the WD drive it would never boot all the way into
windows. (got stuck at the blue screen with the window xp logo, mouse
(cursor) would work)"

Surprised that it booted, unless you have removed the old drive and the new
one is now considered to be the first device. The boot information contains
a reference to device and partition on which the OS to be booted is found.

"Is it possible to clone (if so, how?) or do I have to start all over with a
new copy of Windows if I want to use
the SATA drive?"

No, you could installed the drivers on the working drive and the new would
show up. Then you can copy the data across as normal.

"Extra info: The SATA drive shows up as a SCSI drive in the device manager."

Yes.

" (side question: is the SATA drive info supposed to show up in the bios
where the ide drive stats are?) (primary, secondary)"

It is not an IDE drive. Or more specifically, your SATA controller is
separate from the standard ATAPI/IDE controller(s) on the motherboard. It
will show up when the SATA Controller BIOS is initialized at boot time and
you will (have?) see👎 the drive data, etc.

John
 
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:08:29 GMT, "TOM B WILSON" <twstuff@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Hi, I have a Asus K8V SE Deluxe (VIA chipset) and I want to clone my Maxtor
>80 gig IDE drive to a 200 gig Western Digital SATA drive.
>
>I have Windows XP

Download the WD Data Lifeguard Tools.

Boot from DLG floppy, and transfer the data from the old drive to the WD
drive. Works every time for me. It makes a perfect clone.

-- Bob
 
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I just gave up and reinstalled everthing on my new hard drive.

Thanks for the ideas. I tried them and things just did not work right.

I have to admit, it was a good learning experience. =)

Thanx, Tom
"TOM B WILSON" <twstuff@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hvF6d.8777$Mf.43@trnddc05...
> Hi, I have a Asus K8V SE Deluxe (VIA chipset) and I want to clone my
Maxtor
> 80 gig IDE drive to a 200 gig Western Digital SATA drive.
>
> I have Windows XP
>
> I only thing I figured out how to get the SATA drive working was to
install
> a new copy of windows by installing the VIA drivers during/before
> installation (F6)
>
> Once I acomplished this (only way to get the SATA drive to be recognized),
I
> used Ghost to clone the Maxtor to the Western Digital and it seemed to
work,
> but when booting the WD drive it would never boot all the way into
windows.
> (got stuck at the blue screen with the window xp logo, mouse (cursor)
would
> work)
>
> Is it possible to clone (if so, how?)
> or do I have to start all over with a new copy of Windows if I want to use
> the SATA drive?
>
> Extra info: The SATA drive shows up as a SCSI drive in the device manager.
>
> Thanx, Tom
>
> (side question: is the SATA drive info supposed to show up in the bios
> where the ide drive stats are?) (primary, secondary)
>
>
>
 
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"Skooz" <nobody@nonet.com> wrote in message
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> I just gave up and reinstalled everthing on my new hard drive.
> Thanks for the ideas. I tried them and things just did not work right.
> I have to admit, it was a good learning experience. =)
> Thanx, Tom

I'm late entering this thread, but a few months ago I had the same mission
you face, but my effort went smoothly on my GB GA-8KNXP v1 (non-Ultra) mobo.
Admittedly, we're comparing apples and oranges here, as I have an Intel 875i
chipset and attached the SATA to the ICH5R on-chip controller.

I first installed the ICH5R drivers into XP, activated the SATA controller
and the RAID function in bios, cloned with Ghost, and booted successfully.
FWIW, I enabled RAID in the bios based on newsgroup recommendations even
though I wasn't installing a RAID array at the time. Since that time I
added another Raptor drive, created the array, cloned with Ghost again, and
had another successful transition.

Again, these are two different chipsets and systems, but hopefully something
here will help.

>> (side question: is the SATA drive info supposed to show up in the bios
>> where the ide drive stats are?) (primary, secondary)
 
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I had a similar issue on a A7N8X. Norton Ghost 9 would clone the
Maxtor IDE drive onto the Seagate 200GB SATA but it would not boot. In
the end, the Seagate utility DiskWizard did a perfect job... slow, but
worked
 
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Black=Denis wrote:
> I had a similar issue on a A7N8X. Norton Ghost 9 would clone the
> Maxtor IDE drive onto the Seagate 200GB SATA but it would not boot. In
> the end, the Seagate utility DiskWizard did a perfect job... slow, but
> worked
>

The primary reason for the problem is that most of the SATA channels
require drivers that are not currently in the Windows distribution.
When SATA becomes as common as PATA, then the drivers will be in the OS
for SATA.