Collection of AMD K10 data

[HotFoot]

Please keep this discussion going. I learn more reading both of yours' posts than anywhere else.

 

[xChaoSx]

Props for the list. Very comprehensive and helpful!

 

[Atolsammeek]

I am going to have to say good post. glad there a sticky for it.

 

[Artmic]

Somehow i don't see Intel being afraid of the big bad AMD offering.
Too bad, competition would speed up the speed upgrades in the Intel lineup.

 

[piesquared]

Might as well post this here for anyone interested in all the technical details of Barcelona.

Barcelona optimization guide

 

[hzjeffrey]

Somehow i don't see Intel being afraid of the big bad AMD offering.
Too bad, competition would speed up the speed upgrades in the Intel lineup.

I like your rig, man, but wonder why not run a 6800 at 3.5Ghz?
not stable?

 

[phial]

Your opinion if you please, do you think it will be the monster they claim ?[/quote]
Yes, it will be a monster, for sure. It is a quadcore after all. How it will compete against current Core2 Quad depends on its the frequency. IMO, clock for clock both will perform similar.

I have to agree, same conclusion I came to as well.


Considering people are already getting 4ghz out of their core2s and quads, I cant see how it will be worth switching over to AMD for those who already have purchased intel chips, unless you got a crappy overclock which doesnt seem to happen very often.. from what Ive seen, 3ghz is very easy to get, alot of people getting 3.2-3.5 on air. Will barcelona be able to reach those frequencies at first? I dont know. But overall it seems like this is merely playing catch up with Intel, not surpassing them. I used to be an AMD fan btw.

 

[cherie22984]

Latest k10 article ..http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-k10.html

 

[torcida_kutina]

At least, one post without fight. gOJDO, and everybody else - this is verry, verry nice. I love to read that.

gOJDO - veliki pozdrav iz Kutine iz Hrvatske, ovo sto si napravio je vrhunski. Uzivao sam citati sve to, a nisam mogao vjerovati da si sa baronom pricao bez svadje. Prosli put kad sam ga branio, napisao si mi da je nenormalni majmun koji nema zivot, pa me iznenadilo kako svi lijepo razovarate. Hvala jos jednom na ovom postu.

 

[clintox]

Thank you for sharing that cherie. There's a lot of good insight in that article, and I'm getting a nice lesson in chip architecture.

Yes, it's nice to find a thread that is full of unbiased information.

 

[cherie22984]

Your welcome. I'm always neutral and open-minded...My first cpu was an AMD 3700, then a x2 4800. I currently have a Q6600, so its really hard for me or any serious enthusiast to be biased.

 

[apache_lives]

heh it seems AMD tried to take on too many new things all at once making its new generation, where as even intel isnt game enough to do something like that - the core 2 duo design is a few tweaks off a core duo, and the pentium m (dothan), and pentium 3/2/pro.

I hope for AMD's sake they pull this one off and have a chance to compete with Intels new cpu (performance crown isnt the only thing to win, efficency and pricing is something else), i think the first gen AMD design here will be ok but the second gen when they realise the potential of there design is where we will see some life here.

 

[decripple]

I don't pretend to understand anything in here, but hopefully this thing overclocks like a dog.

Me, too!This thread is awesome for me because I usually read/post in threads/stickys to try to do three things only:
1) Learn something
2) Help someone/answer OPs questions
3) Ask a question

Thank you gOJDO for the thread very informative even though I don't understand most of this stuff.

 

[Maziar]

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-k10.html

 

[piesquared]

Here's something on Barcelona's new Cache structure.

 

[monkeymanuk]

Here's something on Barcelona's new Cache structure.

Interesting read!

I only hope that the lack of benchmark data from AMD prior to launch is due to them shocking us all with a major improvement over Intel. I'd hate barcelona to suffer the same fate as the 2900XT.

 

[toasty2]

Me too. What's wrong with the 2900XT? I thought the only issue was that people were comparing it to the 8800GTX, when the 2900XTX was meant for that comparison.

 

[Falken699]

Now if you can add some Doom 3 benchies, we'd be good to go!

 

[Winly]

nice job gOJDO, thanks for the info

 

[sirkillalot]

Everything you need to know about the new K10 architecture that will be used by forthcoming AMD processors, like Phenom and Opteron "Barcelona", including roadmaps

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/480

 

[toasty2]

Good contribution, great article. Anyone know how much the cheapest Phenom X4 is likely to cost?

 

[Dresdenboy]

... and a new slideset with more details on caches and imc:
http://nccs.gov/news/workshops/fy07...d Core Processor Overview/AMD_ORNL_073007.pdf

 

[onestar]

Randys Law...
bleeding edge technology will always bleed your bank account

new information releases almost always preceed a manufacturing setback

 

[spaztic7]

Is this designed to compete (and beat) the C2D/C2Q or Penryn?

 

[toasty2]

It is designed to compete with (and possibly beat, I'm not sure on that one...) the C2D/C2Q. I think Penryn is likely to beat K10.