Comcast Promises Nationwide 2 Gbps Internet Service By End Of 2015, 1 Gbps In 2016

[childofthekorn]

Usually 2Gb speed is a marketing term that means you can download at 1Gb and upload at 1Gb at the same time, hence 2Gb. A 1Gb fiber connection can always do both at the same time. All 1Gb wired routers can also do both at the same time. All 1Gb switches will do both at the same time. Wireless WIFI is not the same. A 1Gb WIFI may only give you 1 total of 1 Gb (or usually less) in both directions total. You would get 1Gb down only if you are not uploading anything. It can get more complex. There is no spec for a 2Gb fiber, just 1Gb or 10Gb (Or higher) There is a 5/2.5Gb electrical spec in your future, but only if you promise CSCO Et. Al. that you are willing to be very good for a long time. At least that's what my mom says.

Yes however the speeds can have an artificial limit imposed on how much traffic can be transferred at the L3 switch or router level. If they say its a 2Gb connection, that is different (much to what you were describing) than a 2Gb SYMMETRICAL connection which would mean 2Gb up / 2Gb down.

 

[VIPChristian]

2mbps, what the heck is that? I had 100mbps before frontier took over att. Now I have 6mbps download, 1.6 upload.
Just give up the internet, just another service to drain you wallet. You can't eat megabytes!

 

[Jess Castro]

2gb down .....with a throttle limit probably still set to couple GB of data before they hamstring your connection for the month lol. Yay now customers can hit their limit in less than 10mins

 

[laststop311]

if they put data caps on it then its basically useless. It;s going to be crazy expensive. Current top tier subscribers will automatically get gigabit pro. Thats people subscribed to the 505mbps package at 399.95 a month. They said it will be less than 400 but wouldn't be surprised if it's like 299.95 a month which is still a ton more than googles theoretical 140/month for 2gbps.

 

[computertech82]

I only get 10mbps for 50 bucks. check out the speed Europe gets (hint: far faster then usa), and far cheaper on top of that!!

 

[Dhampire01]

Im from europe so i dont know.
Can you tell me why everyone hates comcast so much in the US?

 

[Solandri]

1Gbps is almost 8GB per minute download!

Don't you mean 8 min to download 1GB?

1Gbps = ~125MB/s. That's 8 seconds per GB or about 7.5GB/minute.

In other words, you can hit your monthly bandwidth cap in about half an hour.

Im from europe so i dont know.
Can you tell me why everyone hates comcast so much in the US?

Imagine one ISP has a monopoly on Internet service in a region. Think of everything it could do to overcharge customers, while providing the minimal level of service. In all likelihood, Comcast has done everything you've thought of, and quite a few things you haven't thought of.

The other monopoly ISPs are bad Time-Warner, Verizon, AT&T, Cox, in roughly that order from worst to best). But Comcast takes it to a whole new level of awful.

 

[BadBoyGreek]

2Gps in 2015 followed by a downgrade in 2016 to 1Gbps! Yay!

Quit your whining 😛 up here in Canada, we pay about $100 per month for lowly 100 Mb internet service 🙁

 

[asdfasdfa]

are all you people retards? the article states that the 2Gb fiber connection is supposedly due for 2015 and comcast is also introducing a new technology (basically an upgrade) to the current Coaxial network to allow it to handle 1Gb speeds without fiber optics. TWO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES.

 

[Techdude1234]

seriously tho, who (besides businesses and the less than 1 percent of people who run private servers) needs more that 100mbps? until a lot more people own 4k monitors and TVs and theres more content in 4k, no one needs more that 100mbps. heck, 50mbps is plenty to stream full HD movies on 3 different devices at once.

 

[childofthekorn]

2gb down .....with a throttle limit probably still set to couple GB of data before they hamstring your connection for the month lol. Yay now customers can hit their limit in less than 10mins

They announced on twitter there were no caps for the 2Gb service. Given its FTTH its possibly not sharing bandwidth much like docsis. The 1Gb service may be another story.

 

[quotas47]

@kiniku
Docsis 3 is over cable, versus the 2gb on fiber.

 

[inerax]

So.... 2Gbps..... What computer has 10/100/1000/10gbps cards? What routers can take 2Gbps? What switches will have 2Gbps?

First we need computers and networking equipment that can take 2Gbps before we need WAN with 2Gbps....

Its like having a car that can go 500mph but only has tires that allows it to go 200mph... its pointless!

 

[MasterMace]

In case you didn't know, Comcast this fall expanded its trial run of capped broadband plans in several markets in the south, including major markets like Atlanta, Nashville and Charleston. The lowest data caps are set at 300GB per month, which the company believes should be enough for the vast majority of its users.Nov 22, 2014
Why is Comcast so bad: Home broadband data caps are ...
bgr.com/2014/11/22/why-is-comcast-so-bad-28/Boy Genius Report

But 300GB (as opposed to Gb) is more than enough for the MAJORITY of its users. Its true that less than 5% (comcast claims 2%) of its users use more than that amount of information, but its usually folks that should be using its business class anyhow. As far as DATA Caps for the 2Gb service. From Jason Livingood on twitter

Jason Livingood @jlivingood
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And before anyone asks, there is no data usage limit on the planned 2G symmetric service. 🙂

3:29 AM - 2 Apr 2015

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-to-Offer-2-Gbps-to-18-Million-Homes-By-Years-End-133201

Data caps will be a trend that goes the way of the Dodo as soon as the infrastructure if further secured, with the latest rounds of fiber layed by Level3 and other backbone providers it'll become easier to refute their necessity. But until that happens we can expect them to stick around for a bit longer. You can thank Canada for data caps, even though their max is typically 50-100Gb.

Smells like Comcast employee line to me.


Do you know what the data cap should be on a 1Gbps line?

1Gb x 60s x 60m x 24h x 30d = 2,592,000 Gigabits, or 2.592 exabits.

Your limit is only based on time. That's how landlines work. That's how it should always work. If a company like Comcast wants you to use less data, then they should not sell speeds that high. If they don't sell speeds that high, people stop buying, and they go out of business.

People have stopped buying. They want faster speeds. Comcast can take their low speeds, bandwidth caps, and monopoly policies and leave America.

 

[Solandri]

Do you know what the data cap should be on a 1Gbps line?

1Gb x 60s x 60m x 24h x 30d = 2,592,000 Gigabits, or 2.592 exabits.

Your limit is only based on time. That's how landlines work. That's how it should always work. If a company like Comcast wants you to use less data, then they should not sell speeds that high. If they don't sell speeds that high, people stop buying, and they go out of business.

Your proposed 1 Gbps connection with no data cap already exists. It's called an OC-24, which is a fiber bundle with 1244 Mbps capacity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier_transmission_rates

It and that 2,592,000 Gbits (324,000 GB) of data can be yours for just $200,000 per month.

The only reason you're able to get a 1 Gbps fiber line for about $100/mo is because you're sharing that bandwidth with approx 2000 other people. $100/mo * 2000 people = $200,000/mo. And when you share 324,000 GB with 2000 people, how much should each person on average get? 324,000 / 2000 = 162 GB. The 300 GB cap is just about right in terms of cost and available bandwidth (the cap is higher than 162 GB because they assume most people won't hit their cap).

Most businesses which buy an OC line pay for it the way Comcast is selling it. They buy a fractional OC line. That is, the full speed of the line is available for when they need to send/receive data. But they only pay for the GB they use. This allows their ISP to connect multiple fractional OC customers to a single real OC line, and spread the cost of that single line out among multiple customers.

If you read my previous post, you'll see I have no love for Comcast. But I have no issue with their data caps. If you want to pay for a dedicated line with no data caps, get DSL. It's like the "pick two" rule. You can have high transmit speeds, low price, or no data cap. Pick two.

 

[Bezzell]

These corporations have people believing bandwidth is some sort of "rare, limited" resource like oil, gold or diamonds. "Once it's gone, it's gone!!!"

The only thing that's rare is when they actually spend their obscene profit margins and massive tax incentives given to them by us, and actually reinvest in the infrastructure or their own equipment. If they did that, they could actually deliver what they advertise and maybe even bring us into the 21st century like most of the other 1st world nations. But, why should they when they have no competition.

I want ten ISPs to chose from in my town. Not one. They're holding the citizenry over a barrel and claiming it's business.

 

[childofthekorn]

In case you didn't know, Comcast this fall expanded its trial run of capped broadband plans in several markets in the south, including major markets like Atlanta, Nashville and Charleston. The lowest data caps are set at 300GB per month, which the company believes should be enough for the vast majority of its users.Nov 22, 2014
Why is Comcast so bad: Home broadband data caps are ...
bgr.com/2014/11/22/why-is-comcast-so-bad-28/Boy Genius Report

But 300GB (as opposed to Gb) is more than enough for the MAJORITY of its users. Its true that less than 5% (comcast claims 2%) of its users use more than that amount of information, but its usually folks that should be using its business class anyhow. As far as DATA Caps for the 2Gb service. From Jason Livingood on twitter

Jason Livingood @jlivingood
Follow

And before anyone asks, there is no data usage limit on the planned 2G symmetric service. 🙂

3:29 AM - 2 Apr 2015

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-to-Offer-2-Gbps-to-18-Million-Homes-By-Years-End-133201

Data caps will be a trend that goes the way of the Dodo as soon as the infrastructure if further secured, with the latest rounds of fiber layed by Level3 and other backbone providers it'll become easier to refute their necessity. But until that happens we can expect them to stick around for a bit longer. You can thank Canada for data caps, even though their max is typically 50-100Gb.

Smells like Comcast employee line to me.


Do you know what the data cap should be on a 1Gbps line?

1Gb x 60s x 60m x 24h x 30d = 2,592,000 Gigabits, or 2.592 exabits.

Your limit is only based on time. That's how landlines work. That's how it should always work. If a company like Comcast wants you to use less data, then they should not sell speeds that high. If they don't sell speeds that high, people stop buying, and they go out of business.

People have stopped buying. They want faster speeds. Comcast can take their low speeds, bandwidth caps, and monopoly policies and leave America.

You seem to be sold that I'm somehow boasting for why caps SHOULD be in place. However what you're not taking into account is that regardless of how I voice my opinion, it shall not sway how comcast views their caps. Regardless of what you think is right, this forum will not sway comcasts opinions. I'm merely stating whats there. They handle much more than just consumers and must keep their equipment at a low enough threshhold to keep their business class happy.