Computer build $3,000 to $3,500

PrestoFX · Oct 11, 2011

Hi to all!

Approximate Purchase Date: between now and two weeks.

Budget Range: 3,000 - 3,500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: This will be a gaming computer. I will use the browser to watch video's online but that's about it.

Parts I already own:

Currently I own a computer that I will be taking apart to use a few required parts for my new build.

TX750 corsair power supply
Sata hard drive
optical drive
computer fans
G5 gaming mouse
razor tarantula keyboard
windows 7

Parts Preferences:

I have put together a list of parts as a starting point but I hope to get all the advice and help i can get because I am not sure if it is a good build or not. *** Anyone is welcome on suggesting a new build or parts you think would be a better fit for the money. Much appreciated ***

cpu cooler: Noctua NH-D14
processor: 17 2600k 3.4GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO "not sure yet between p67 or z68"
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB)
graphics card: evga classified 590
computer screen: LG 24" HD 1080p LED 2ms glossy
Speakers: Logitech Z623
computer case: Cooler Master HAF X "I have no idea though, something that will last for the future"
OCZ RevoDrive 3 series RVD3-FHPX4-240G PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express 2.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

I plan to use two hard drives, the old SATA drive "1 year old" and the new RevoDrive that I will buy. I was thinking I would put my OS/games on the revodrive SSD so it would load fast and put my pictures and documents on the older SATA hard drive. "not sure need advice"

I don't even know if it is necessary to have a fast hard drive for gaming and if it really helps. Do you think just keeping the SATA drive I have now and not buying a new SSD would be fine?

I figured I would use some of the fans in my older computer to put in the HAF X computer case. Probably bottom of the case where you have the option to put in extra hard drives or fans.

I checked to make sure my older power supply would be enough for my graphics etc etc and it seems to be, but I sill don't know if I should use it. any advice?

I don't have any type of bias when it comes to picking between AMD or intel I just want what you all think is best. From the parts I have already picked I guess its looking like an Intel computer. That can change if I see good suggestions.

Preferred Website for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: (Canada, Ontario)

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Depending on the build, to start off this build I want one very good graphics card and just buy another one a bit later.

Monitor Resolution: I have no idea but I want my screen to be 24" I usually run 1400 x 900. Only because that's the max resolution I am offered.

Additional Comments: This is strictly a gaming computer and I could use some advice about what is the important and whats not. I don't know much about parts only from my own findings.

Regards,

Novuake · Oct 12, 2011

Ok il just into this one.

Processor :
The I7 is unnecessary, in gaming an I7's capabilities are not used. Not even close, for a great gaming CPU look at I5-2500/2500K.

If you will not be overclocking then it is pointless to look at any of the 'K' versions as you will not be using the only 2 added features that you pay extra for above the normal 2500/2600.

Motherboard : Definitely go for the Z68 chipset as it allows for overclocking AND a onboard VGA fallback that can come in handy.

RAM : Abit much, but not a waste at the current RAM pricing.

Storage : An SSD is a MUST on a performance system!!! Have a look at this article - especially the clip at the end. It would be pointless to not get one on such a powerful system!

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-upgrade-hdd-performance,3023.html

Yes a faster HDD/SSD is better for everything except extensive storage. Run the OS and games of it and you will reduce loading times significantly.
BUT I would suggest just looking at a normal(if you can call SSD's normal) 2.5Inch OCZ or Corsair GT SSD. Just be sure it has a SATA-6G interface and 400+ read/write.

Screen : You should be able to run full HD 1080p resolution on the new build.

Ok thats all for now...

Why_Me · Oct 12, 2011

FREE SHIPPING

These two retailers (Direct Canada & Best Direct) are affiliated, both use the same shipping addy out of Richmond, BC, and both offer free ground shipping.

http://www.directcanada.com/contact/

http://www.bestdirect.ca/contact/

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC7104&vpn=RC-942-KKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER $164.70
Coolermaster Haf X EATX Tower Case Black 6X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB3.0

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13220AC6971&vpn=OCZ-ZX1000W&manufacture=OCZ $177.72 MIR $147.72
OCZ ZX Series 1000W ATX12V 24PIN Active PFC 80 Plus Gold 83A Power Supply 140MM Fan Black 5 Yr Wrty

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD9256&vpn=N580GTX%20Twin%20Frozr%20II/OC&manufacture=MSI $489.69 MIR $459.69
MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II OC 800MHZ 1536MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DirectX 11 Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD9256&vpn=N580GTX%20Twin%20Frozr%20II/OC&manufacture=MSI $489.69 MIR $459.69
MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II OC 800MHZ 1536MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DirectX 11 Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G.SKILL $51.27
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/225965/DRW-24B1ST%20Bulk/ASUS/ $19.80
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233111/ST31000524AS/Seagate/ $52.79
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234804/CT256M4SSD2/CRUCIAL%20TECHNOLOGY/ $417.69
Crucial M4 Micron C400 SSD 256GB 2.5IN Solid State Disk Flash Drive SATA3 6Gbps

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/ $219.79
Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/ $29.43
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3844&vpn=P67%20Extreme4%20Gen3&manufacture=Others $186.84
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI3.0-E16 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232883/ML248H/ASUS/ $202.40
ASUS ML248H 24IN LED Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 HDMI DVI VGA 10M:1DCR 2MS - Black

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-02050/MICROSOFT/ $93.79
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extreme4%20Gen3 <----- A better look at that board

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/PCIe3/ <----- PCI-E 3.0

PrestoFX · Oct 12, 2011

Great info Novuake and Why_me,

I was told that getting the 2600k would be wise incase I need to overclock 2 years down the line. I don't want to have to overclock but if it means getting compatable parts for the future so my system is average to below average when times change then I would rather be prepared. I have seen everyone suggesting the 2500k but every time I look at a gaming build that someone is buying "almost every time" I see them buying the 2600k.
What type of motherboard would you suggest I buy Novuake? I still can't really decide on a p67 or z68 board but z68 seems to be the newest. Plus has bonus for the SSD drive caching which I didn't know about "ty Novuake" but I just don't know which z68 is the best for the price. I hope to spend no more than $400 on a motherboard so If anyone knows of the newest best one let me know.

You suggested I should get an average SSD and not the revodrive that I have in my post? If you suggested it so I can save some money ty ty, but I compared the reguler 2.5" ocz to a revodrive and the revodrive blows it away when it comes to write and read speed "1000+read compared to the normal 2.5" ssd which has around 400+read".
What SSD would you suggest that would be the fastest but doesn't also come with 500G of space? I am looking for the fastest SSD with about 120G to 240G of space. The fastest thing I have been able to find is the OCZ Revodrive.
Thank you for the build option Why_me I will take a look at it. It is a good looking build I must say. I wonder why everyone is suggesting those Frozr gpu's. I checked and dual 590's have it beat hands down. I guess people get off on the double fans, lol weak.

I'm not super happy about the HAF X case but I cant find anything thats much better for $250. All these raven cases with the 90 degree tilt mother board has got me thinking "gimmick". The coolermaster HAF X and antec twelve hundred look ok for the price. I cant find anything else though accept that. I don't like thermaltake though.

current build as of now: $2,600
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17562065

Novuake · Oct 12, 2011

Well if you are purely going for the fastest SSD then its all good. I think you got a good board on your wishlist!
Enjoy!

Why_Me · Oct 13, 2011

PrestoFX :

Why is everyone suggesting dual 580's? Because the 590's are nothing more than a couple of down clocked 460's and the rest of us know better. You use dual 590's and chances are not only is heat going to be a major issue, so is tearing not to mention the bend over hose job for someone paying that kind of money for a card that consist of two down clocked gtx 460's, and the cost / size of the psu to push two of those cards...and you can only use those cards on boards that have the NF200 bridge...that is if you wish to use two of those cards at some point in time.

Dual 580's will tear it up and without the issues and the cost.

PrestoFX · Oct 14, 2011

The mobo does look nice but here are some other options I have picked. Which is the best?

GIGABYTE G1.SNIPER2
ASRock Z68 Extreme7
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD7-B3
ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z

These are just the ones I am guessing are top of the line for $400 bucks. The mobo I have listed now seems a bit cheap at around $240. But then again I know nothing about motherboards.

I have heard much debate about the 580's to 590's. I believe your right Why_me, but if "cost/size of the psu and cooling" is not an issue for a person then wouldn't you rather buy the 590's rather than the 580's?? I can almost guarantee if the 590 was the same price as the 580 EVERYONE would buy it. I just plan in 2 months to get a new power supply "prob over 1500" and the new 590 gpu.

Why_me, If you still honestly believe its still better to get the 580's over the 590's I will change the build to suit it. "cost not being an issue keep in mind!"

At this point the only thing i'm confident about in this build is the screen and the speakers. Which doesn't say much. I guess when making a build its always a gamble.

Any idea's on the ATX full tower anyone???

Should I buy the revodrive I listed???

cpu cooler adequate? "water cooling maybe as an option?"

help meeee!!

BohleyK · Oct 14, 2011

The 590 is garbage. If you really want to the best get the MARS II but its $1500. Really all anyone could need is a single 580, nothing more. You'd be better off buying another monitor than another 580.

The Noctua DH14 is a really nice cooler. I have one in my gaming rig and its beast. Its huge though and I'm kinda wishing I bought something smaller since its so big but it does the job as well as any air cooler can. REAL liquid cooling is an option you should look into since you have the money. Spending on REAL liquid cooling like Swiftech and the like would be worth your money more than a 580 SLI set up.

Silverstone RAVEN 01 is an awesome full size tower. Best of the series I think but its huge. All those motherboards are extreme overkill but if you have the money why not? I'd get the GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 myself but I'm kind of a Gigabyte fanboy.

Why_Me · Oct 14, 2011

PrestoFX :

1000w psu with dual 580's will annihilate any game out there and then some.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157269 $274.99 Free Shipping
ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extreme7%20Gen3 <----- A better look at that board

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/PCIe3/ <----- PCI-E 3.0

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4272/asrock_z68_extreme7_gen3_intel_z68_motherboard_review/index.html <----- Review of that board with benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68a-gd80-p8z68-deluxe-z68xp-ud5,3025.html <----- Review of that board done last week here on Toms. It earned Tom’s Hardware Best Enthusiast-Class Award

NaryaMithrandir · Oct 14, 2011

Check out the NZXT H2 case:

BLACK:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146072

WHITE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146071

I just got it and it's beautifully elegant, has inside foam padding that keeps everything silent as hell, and comes pre-built with 3 fans! I added a 120mm Antec on the top (with a blue LED WEEEE!) and an old 120 at the bottom from an ASUS case. The system runs cool and quite. And has two rubber tubing holes if you want to do water cooling!

I'm super happy. Got it from Microcentre for $70.

Also, I got the Crucial m4 128GB SSD, and it seems to be superfast. I admit I didn't bother checking write speed, and read speed, but it does the job well for me and I got it for $160/170 which is a steal too.

I would definitely go witht the z68 chipset. I just got an ASROCK Pro3-M (it's a mATX mobo) and it suits my need. But I'd get the ASUS Pro you mentioned in the beginning. Going $400 for a mobo is unnecessary really. I'm happy with one PCI express slot.

PrestoFX · Oct 15, 2011

Great info!!!

You see,,,, about a month ago I went and bought a power supply and a new gpu "ati radeon 6870 and TX750 corsair." And I'm really not happy. So I figure I'd just start fresh because my system is ddr2 4gigs ram . I figure I wasted money on the biostar ati radion 6870... but I don't want to have to chuck my power supply away and be wasteful... FYI I will never buy ATI again. Only reason I bought it is because I had a 480 GTX oc2 card made by BFG. BUT!!! The card stopped working and when I tried to get it replaced "because I have a life time warranty" I found out they were bankrupt and went out of business.. :pfff:

So i got squat.

So my question is!! Can the MARS ll be supported by my TX750 corsair power supply?

You shouldn't have showed me the MARS ll lol :non:

I might just have to buy it. Where can I get the limited edition MARS ll?

If i don't go with MARS ll then I will change to the 580. Then in a few months I will go get that new power supply and second 580. Which 580 gpu should I get??? I am trying to find the 580 classified but I can't find it anywhere.

Still conflicted about motherboard options.

Which motherboard will be the most compatible with future technology?? I don't understand all the different compatibility like PCIe 3.0 compared to 2.0 etc etc, I just want to play Battlefield 3 on the highest settings for god sakes..

For the ATX tower that raven tower 1 looks nice but is expensive indeed might need to inspect it closely. Doesn't that tower make you install your mobo on a 90 degree slant? FYI Narya It looks like a nice set up you have but that case is only a mid size ATX tower. Im looking to buy a Full ATX tower.

great information from everyone. I just don't understand how the 590 can be worse than the 580..... Why is the 590 more expensive?

I guess the SSD hard drive i picked is good enough. I will stick with air cooling I think. Water cooling maybe for my next build.

hey bohleyk If I get a FULL ATX tower will the size of the Noctua DH14 be a problem. You say you wish you got something smaller why???? What problem does it give you?

I'm going to make the purchase in 7 days from now unless a part I want is unavailable.

Regards,

BohleyK · Oct 15, 2011

All the MARS II are limited edition. There's only 999 made because nobody has the money for it. You really shouldn't buy it, I was just saying.

The RAVEN does make you install at 90 degrees but it works. The case has more than enough rough and there's a GPU support bar that you can leave in there or take out.

The Noctua D14 is probably the largest heatsink on the market but it fits in every newish case. You'll be fine with any case you buy as long as its not a case from like 2008 or something. Its just BIG. If my gaming rig wasn't AMD I would have gotten the Megahelms or whatever its called as its not a dual radiator. The D14 is worth the money and its nice looking. Its just really big.

boiler1990 · Oct 15, 2011

I love my Raven RV02; the cooling design is efficient (ran 3x470s @ 60C on air in there). I'd personally pick the RV02 over the RV02-E and RV03, because it seems like a lot of the parts are being made out of plastic now. If you want more pictures of the internals, here's my watercooling build log (lots of pictures): http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/267276-29-completed-18sep2011-raven-rv02-build

A great (and more expensive) alternative to the RV02 is the Fortress FT02. Basically the same internal layout, but more metal and a nicer look.

PrestoFX · Oct 17, 2011

ty boiler can you check if i picked the right raven 2 case?

This is the current build as of now.

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17562065

Until I get someone to tell me which 580 to buy for the gpu I'm sticking with the 590.

ty for the information convincing me to change from 2600k to the 2500k.

Its to bad so many moron's are posting two dollar builds only worthy of Dells or HP's attention causing my build to be obviously over looked.

I will take another crack at it though.

Which z68 mobo is best for $400?

Which 580 do I buy?

Do I need any other components such as "sound card, extra fans" etc etc?

Salute,

BohleyK · Oct 17, 2011

You're spending much more money then you need to. Better off with the selected below. Its always nice to know what your doing before you build a PC. I'd suggest read up and look at benches.

$100 cheaper. The one you selected is faster but not worth it. It takes a PCIe slot that you could use later and its just too expensive GB/$

Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233208

There is NO WAY that Vengeance heatsink is going to fit with the Noctua D14. You don't need 16GB of RAM anyways.

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186

The GTX 580 you couldn't seem to find

MSI N580GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 580 [:bohleyk:3]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127579

Probably better off with this monitor. Any monitor with built in speakers is usually not worth it.

ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" 2ms HDMI LED
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153

boiler1990 · Oct 17, 2011

ty boiler can you check if i picked the right raven 2 case?

Yeah, that's the Raven I have. I think the new iteration has the AP181 fans, which are much better (look up Silverstone Air Penetrators on youtube).

Until I get someone to tell me which 580 to buy for the gpu I'm sticking with the 590.

MSI N580GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 580 [:bohleyk:3]
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814127579

The Lightning wouldn't be good in this case because of the way it cools. MSI's coolers pull air from outside the case (the top of the Raven), and then exhaust inside the case. This is against the Raven's airflow design, and would be very inefficient.

A reference external exhaust-style card would be better. It will pull air in and exhaust it out the top of the Raven. That's why I could have 3x470s in my Raven.

Which z68 mobo is best for $400?

$400? I think there's a difference between spending good money to get good parts, and just plain overspending. You'll get everything you need from a $200 board, probably even lower than that too. Keep in mind it's more effective to spend ~$1500 on a good platform base and spend the rest of the money on upgrades as the parts get better (GPUs change very often).

I personally wouldn't drop more than $2000 on a PC unless I got something like the EVGA SR-2.

Do I need any other components such as "sound card, extra fans" etc etc?

Unless you're using a really good surround sound set up or true 5.1 headphones (not something like the Logitech G35 that just virtualizes the sound), there's no reason to use anything other than the onboard sound.

IMHO, you should spend ~$200-300 on a good sound setup - you'll notice it MUCH more than a better GPU (at your price ranges) or 10MB/s faster SSD. Get a true 5.1/7.1 setup, or headphones like CM's Storm Sirus or the Roccat Kave 5.1 headsets, and a good sound card that supports Dolby Digital features. Pass on the cheaper cards (~$40-60) that only do some kind of virtual 3D sound.

Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820233208

This is a better option IMO. Although the Revo Drive is faster, you won't see much of a difference loading games (it's not like you're moving 20-30GB at a time). What's 3 seconds to ya? 😉

There is NO WAY that Vengeance heatsink is going to fit with the Noctua D14. You don't need 16GB of RAM anyways.

Agreed on both counts. My G.Skill Ripjaws X have a lower heatsink height than most RAM and I couldn't fit it with a second fan on my Hyper 212+. 16GB RAM is worthless to games - 8GB is the most you'd ever see useable (4GB is still more than enough for 99% of games).

mjmjpfaff · Oct 18, 2011

do you still need help? they raven rv02 has a few bugs that were sorted out by the rv03. the rv03 is the cheapest on amazon it is 140$ free shipping. it is easily one of the best cases for the money at that price.

Why_Me · Oct 18, 2011

mjmjpfaff :

But does it cool as well as the Cooler Master Sniper?

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id=19&product_id=2950

Front: 200x30mm Blue LED Fan x 1 (500 - 1000rpm, 17 - 23 dBA)

Top: 200x30mm Blue LED Fan x 1 (500 - 1000rpm, 17 - 23 dBA)
(can be swapped for two 120mm fans or 120x240mm Radiator)

Side: 200x30mm Blue LED Fan x 1 (500 - 1000rpm, 17 - 23 dBA)
120x25mm Fan x 2 (optional)

Rear: 120x25mm Standard Fan x 1 (1200rpm, 17 dBA)
(can be swapped for 90mm fan or 80mm fan)

Bottom: Supports 140mm Fan x 1 or 120mm Fan x 1 w/ Dust Filter (optional)

boiler1990 · Oct 18, 2011

mjmjpfaff :

Just curious, but what exactly did the RV03 fix?

But does it cool as well as the Cooler Master Sniper?

The Ravens are surprisingly efficient at cooling if you plan out our build's cooling properly. I wish I had screenshots from my 3x470s running nice and cool. Pics or it didn't happen, eh?

mjmjpfaff · Oct 18, 2011

Why_Me :

i dont know. do you have data on that other than specs?

mjmjpfaff · Oct 18, 2011

boiler1990 :

it is able to hold longer gpu's. it has extra ports for fans. its a little wider, and has water cooling capabilities other than the 2 180mm fans.

PrestoFX · Oct 18, 2011

Now that's what i'm talking about!! 😀

i have now made some more changes to the build.

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17562065

The link for that SSD hard drive just takes me to a blank page.

Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820233208 ???

I am now looking at those 3 cases closely, Boiler how do I know If i buy the Rv02 or Rv03 that I am getting is the newest iteration of the case? I am looking at that cooler master sniper case too. Would newegg sell me an older version of the Rv03? Please add links so I can properly compare to the RV02 "imo looks nice because its pure steel".

Should I stick with the sound setup I have now? I don't mind a plug and play sound system I won't be watching movies or anything just gaming. If you think I should change please show me a sound system and a sound card that would be perfect for my build. ty ty. including newegg link plz.

Great info on the gpu, screen, ram!! :bounce:

Now I just have to find a gpu that works for my build. The 580 classified shows twice as many mb as other cards at around 1536mb for gpu's mentioned, the 580 classified shows about 3500mb. What does that mean? Can someone show me a grand 580 card that is perfect for the build I have?

I am finding myself overwhelmed with compatibility, proper air flow, parts that fit with each other in the case and what makes sense for the money. :ouch:

If everyone thinks that paying less for a mobo is sufficient I will follow suit. BUT what mobo should I get????? I figure the one I have is good because Novuake says so and he seems smart.

I can't find the ATX full tower cooler master sniper on newegg. Is it a full tower? i found cooler master storm sniper but its not a full ATX tower. Only cooler master HAF X can be found for ATX full tower.

Still need to find a SSD hard drive if a PCIe slot SSd is not worth it.

Still need to find a gpu that works for my build.

Still need to figure out my sound system for this build.

mjmjpfaff I still feel like the Rv02 is nicer but I will inspect some more. I don't know how to find out if your getting the newest verion of the case and not just be given the old out dated version.

bohleyk great info by the way

Regards,

mjmjpfaff · Oct 19, 2011

PrestoFX · Oct 21, 2011

I took a closer look at directcanada.com. I figured there wasn't anything better than newegg really. I had much to compare but most of the parts I want they don't have. "out of stock". But I will check things out and maybe buy from both newegg and directcanada.

Thanks for the info mjmjpfaff.

mjmjpfaff · Oct 21, 2011

PrestoFX :

you got it 😉

Computer build $3,000 to $3,500

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