Computex Protesters: Steve Jobs is a Bloodsucker!

[The_Trutherizer]

Well if you consider that a third ($1Bil) of Apple's profit this past year is enough to give each of the 420000 foxconn employees in china a $2380 raise then it is quite clear that somebody along the line in that industry is really beefing up the margins. Whether it be apple of foxconn itself we don't really know. In stead Apple is maybe considering paying out 1-2% of their profit. It's his business and he is totally within his rights to do as he likes, but if I was Steve I would not be able to sleep knowing i'm getting rich from these poor people. And it's not just Apple. Foxconn is like the worlds biggest manufacturer of computer parts. They must surely make more profit than Apple. It's just plain disgusting. I have no respect for such dishonorable business practices. I'm glad I don't have an iPhone anyway. I would not be able to look at it.

 

[zmbcat]

All those tech gimmicks are a frikkin waste of resources anyway...i blame spoiled people for this "slavery" form, also for tremendous toxic pollution in some areas due to thrown away hardware.

 

[tokenz]

It slavery plain and simple. It would take the people making the ipad three months work to afford an ipad. Thats not saving up for three months, thats their total wages.

 

[digiex]

Give the man a break, he just had liver cancer.

 

[figgus]

[citation][nom]The_Trutherizer[/nom]Well if you consider that a third ($1Bil) of Apple's profit this past year is enough to give each of the 420000 foxconn employees in china a $2380 raise then it is quite clear that somebody along the line in that industry is really beefing up the margins. Whether it be apple of foxconn itself we don't really know. In stead Apple is maybe considering paying out 1-2% of their profit. It's his business and he is totally within his rights to do as he likes, but if I was Steve I would not be able to sleep knowing i'm getting rich from these poor people. And it's not just Apple. Foxconn is like the worlds biggest manufacturer of computer parts. They must surely make more profit than Apple. It's just plain disgusting. I have no respect for such dishonorable business practices. I'm glad I don't have an iPhone anyway. I would not be able to look at it.[/citation]
Companies exist to make profit, NOT to hand out paychecks. I can't understand why everyone doesn't know this already...

 

[godmodder]

Companies exist to make profit, NOT to hand out paychecks. I can't understand why everyone doesn't know this already...

One cannot deny that a company does have a certain social responsibility as well. After all, it's people who buy the products they make. Companies produce wealth in an economy and that wealth should partly be shared with the people that work for the company. It would only have a positive influence, because if people are happy and are a strong buying force, than that in turn means more profit.

 

[olin9]

The workers are so screwed. For years the unions in the USA have been complaining about outsourcing jobs and that the countries like China did not have laws in place to protect workers or the environment.
Most companies will do whatever they can get away with for the almighty dollar, including, breaking whatever law stands in their way. Like covering up evidence from an accidental death to making workers stand for 16 hours a day with only one 20 minute lunch break. This happens every day in the USA with Laws and unions, I can just imagine how much fun the ruthless companies can have in a place like China.
I just feel like saying “I told someone so”.

 

[fulle]

Unable to fully exploit the workforce in their home countries, the rich in "developed" countries outsource labor to the poor in other parts of the world, like South America, China, etc etc. If they have to, they will cause political instability, and cause war in these places so that their cheap labor is not compromised.

Viewing a vision of the wealth and power of all the kingdoms of the world, Satan temped Jesus... for Satan rules in this world, and has such things to give.

 

[figgus]

[citation][nom]fulle[/nom]Unable to fully exploit the workforce in their home countries, the rich in "developed" countries outsource labor to the poor in other parts of the world, like South America, China, etc etc. If they have to, they will cause political instability, and cause war in these places so that their cheap labor is not compromised.Viewing a vision of the wealth and power of all the kingdoms of the world, Satan temped Jesus... for Satan rules in this world, and has such things to give.[/citation]
Or maybe they just buy labor where it is cheap, just like any other consumer. I think you're reading a little too much into this.

 

[figgus]

[citation]One cannot deny that a company does have a certain social responsibility as well. After all, it's people who buy the products they make. Companies produce wealth in an economy and that wealth should partly be shared with the people that work for the company. It would only have a positive influence, because if people are happy and are a strong buying force, than that in turn means more profit.[/citation]
Companies have responsibilites to their OWNERS to make MONEY. That's it. Workers paid more are generally happier, and thus more productive. That usually benefits the bottom line for the companies, same with companies that undertake these "social responsibility" programs. It's good PR to do so, and it could be considered part of the marketing budget. Again, they only do it to benefit the bottom line. Google is a great example of this: they do a LOT of really good things, but ultimately they need that warm and fuzzy image so people will trust them with their personal data. It's only done to increase profits.

However, saying a company should pay their workers more so they can buy their products is kinda silly, imo. Their user base extends FAR beyond their own workers, otherwise their sales would only ever equal their labor costs (at most) and raw materials alone would be enough red ink to drive them under.

 

[JJBB]

They should be protesting the Chinese government. These businesses have NO control over the lives of the 'people'. No one forces you to buy an iPad or a motherboard.

If anything, these companies give more opportunity to the 'people' than the People's Republic of China does. China keeps itself poor, to hold on to the business of the overtaxed western companies looking for a break in an artificially devalued Chinese economy.

 

[fulle]

[citation][nom]figgus[/nom]Or maybe they just buy labor where it is cheap, just like any other consumer. I think you're reading a little too much into this.[/citation]

Maybe you're reading a little too little into this. Do a search on the "war on the third world". Greed has no limits to what evils its capable of.

Of course, we can't expect corporate entities to act ethically, or have any social responsibility, or do anything else except try to make money. They exist to make profit, and they make the most profit when they use the cheapest labor possible. It's the government's responsibility to protect the people, because in a perfect world, that's what the government's purpose of existence should be...
- But its hard to protect your people when they are poor, and when the rich who want to exploit them give your enemies training and weapons.

 

[el_bastardo74]

is it possible that "blood" was a mistranslation?

 

[figgus]

[citation][nom]fulle[/nom]Maybe you're reading a little too little into this. Do a search on the "war on the third world". Greed has no limits to what evils its capable of.Of course, we can't expect corporate entities to act ethically, or have any social responsibility, or do anything else except try to make money. They exist to make profit, and they make the most profit when they use the cheapest labor possible. It's the government's responsibility to protect the people, because in a perfect world, that's what the government's purpose of existence should be...- But its hard to protect your people when they are poor, and when the rich who want to exploit them give your enemies training and weapons.[/citation]
Would you like to see China "protect" its workers the same way the US did? Our workers are "safe" now because all the manufacturing jobs went elsewhere due to lots of red tape and overhead.

 

[unrealpinky]

[citation][nom]el_bastardo74[/nom]is it possible that "blood" was a mistranslation?[/citation]LOL!

I think it would be more impact full to portray the plights of the Chinese workers rather than singling out Steve Jobs. Demonizing him does not further the cause but instead further alienates them from the rest of the world, whom respect (for the most part) Jobs. Unfortunately, history has not been kind to the Chinese workers. Since the days of the Atlantic-Pacific railroad, the Chinese worker has always been getting the shaft.

 

[fulle]

[citation][nom]figgus[/nom]Would you like to see China "protect" its workers the same way the US did? Our workers are "safe" now because all the manufacturing jobs went elsewhere due to lots of red tape and overhead.[/citation]

We don't work for 1 dollar a week in a sweatshop.

 

[bobwya]

Hmmm

Makes for interesting reading as background to this article...
Foxconn

 

[figgus]

[citation][nom]fulle[/nom]We don't work for 1 dollar a week in a sweatshop.[/citation]
Yeah, we just don't work PERIOD. Quite an improvement.