Question Connecting two pcs and getting the "unidentified network" error.

[idunnoy]

So I'm connecting two computers, both on windows 10 1909, both having gigabit ethernet ports, and I'm getting unidentified network on both of them. I've tried updating the drivers, plugging them in and restarting both of them, I tried a different cable, but so far, nothing seems to work. they're both custom built computers.

 

[extreme_noob]

Have you plugged them both into the same router, or did you just connect the two with an ethernet cable?

 

[kerberos_20]

if u didnt use router/switch and just plugged two PCs with single cable, than u will need to use cross ethernet cable

 

[idunnoy]

Have you plugged them both into the same router, or did you just connect the two with an ethernet cable?

I just plugged them straight in to each other. I tried plugging them into the router, and they both detected it and got an internet signal from it.

 

[idunnoy]

if u didnt use router/switch and just plugged two PCs with single cable, than u will need to use cross ethernet cable

I have gigabit ports, so this isn't an issue, it auto sets what orientation it needs to be and puts up a green/ orange light accordingly.

 

[bill001g]

You do not need a crossover cable for gigabit ports.

You need to manually set the IP addresses when you directly connect them there is no DHCP server to provide the information.

 

[idunnoy]

So I'm connecting two computers, both on windows 10 1909, both having gigabit ethernet ports, and I'm getting unidentified network on both of them. I've tried updating the drivers, plugging them in and restarting both of them, I tried a different cable, but so far, nothing seems to work. they're both custom built computers.

I'm trying to get an internet connection from one computer to the other. One has a wireless chip and the other doesn't.

 

[idunnoy]

You do not need a crossover cable for gigabit ports.

You need to manually set the IP addresses when you directly connect them there is no DHCP server to provide the information.

Anything particular I need to set it to?

 

[kerberos_20]

go to network adapters, mark up both wifi and ethernet adapters, right click and bridge them together
your ethernet adapter will now comunicate with wifi adapter on same line, and other PC connected can connect to it
there will be no DHCP on ethernet
so u need to setup network mask, gateway, dns accordingly to your wifi adapter

here some more detailed guide
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-and-manage-network-bridge-connection-windows-10

 

[idunnoy]

go to network adapters, mark up both wifi and ethernet adapters, right click and bridge them together
your ethernet adapter will now comunicate with wifi adapter on same line, and other PC connected can connect to it
there will be no DHCP on ethernet
so u need to setup network mask, gateway, dns accordingly to your wifi adapter

here some more detailed guide
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-and-manage-network-bridge-connection-windows-10

whenever I set up the network bridge and add the ip, it works for a few seconds, and then disconnects both computers from wifi. I can't even access my router config.

 

[kerberos_20]

conflicting ip?
each device should have its own ip, network mask should be same for all devices

 

[idunnoy]

conflicting ip?
each device should have its own ip, network mask should be same for all devices

well, in the little amount of time that I can access my router config, it says my ip is "192.168.7.137" when everything else on our network is "192.168.100.___"

 

[kerberos_20]

well ip doesnt matter as long devices doesnt have same ip (for internet)
network mask should be same across all devices, lets say 255.255.255.0
gateway should be your router ip (192.168.100.1?)
dns u can go with gateway ip or 8.8.8.8

 

[idunnoy]

well ip doesnt matter as long devices doesnt have same ip (for internet)
network mask should be same across all devices, lets say 255.255.255.0
gateway should be your router ip (192.168.100.1?)
dns u can go with gateway ip or 8.8.8.8

Tried that, just reverts back to "unidentified network"

 

[idunnoy]

Tried that, just reverts back to "unidentified network"

would it matter if I have hamachi?

 

[kerberos_20]

just checked on mine pc
wifi cant use DHCP server, so small change here:
on taskbar, click on network icon -> wifi -> here click on SSID u connecting and select properties
scroll down to IP setings
and change DHCP to manual
tick ipv4 or 6
and setup ip there
different ip than bridge/other devices on network

 

[idunnoy]

just checked on mine pc
wifi cant use DHCP server, so small change here:
on taskbar, click on network icon -> wifi -> here click on SSID u connecting and select properties
scroll down to IP setings
and change DHCP to manual
tick ipv4 or 6
and setup ip there
different ip than bridge/other devices on network

I can't find what you're talking about. Are you referring to the wifi option in the change network adapter settings menu?

 

[idunnoy]

I can't find what you're talking about. Are you referring to the wifi option in the change network adapter settings menu?

could you get a screenshot?

 

[kerberos_20]

sure
wifi networks:

SSID properties:

manual IP:

 

[idunnoy]

sure
wifi networks:

SSID properties:

manual IP:

"can't save ip settings. check one or more settings and try again"

 

[idunnoy]

"can't save ip settings. check one or more settings and try again"

My settings are:

https://imgur.com/a/3L9AQ8G

View: https://imgur.com/a/3L9AQ8G

 

[kerberos_20]

well..
open network adapters, click on properties on bridge
uncheck wifi from there, connect with wifi normally
run cmd (win+r -> cmd -> enter) and type ipconfig
go back to netowrk adapters -> bridge properties -> check wifi to be bridged again
setup ip for wifi manualy, to what u see in ipconfig for wifi a adapter from before

my guess would be either u used same ip as for bridge, or wrong subnet

 

[bill001g]

You may want to lookup internet connection sharing (ICS) on microsoft site. There are all kinds of issues trying to just directly bridge a wifi connection to ethernet. The largest being that the encryption keys use the mac address of the wifi adapter. This prevents any other mac address from passing. Things like repeaters use a non standard function called WDS but I don't think windows support that.

ICS though is not some magic solution. It was designed back in they days when people wanted to share a dialup modem connection before the days of routers. They have added some support but it still is pretty basic functionality. It in effect make your pc act as a router. It will give out IP addresses to your other pc on the ethernet cable and then NAT/share the IP that the wifi adapter was given.

 

[idunnoy]

well..
open network adapters, click on properties on bridge
uncheck wifi from there, connect with wifi normally
run cmd (win+r -> cmd -> enter) and type ipconfig
go back to netowrk adapters -> bridge properties -> check wifi to be bridged again
setup ip for wifi manualy, to what u see in ipconfig for wifi a adapter from before

my guess would be either u used same ip as for bridge, or wrong subnet

am I not supposed to use the ip adress I got from ipconfig in the setup of my bridge?

You may want to lookup internet connection sharing (ICS) on microsoft site. There are all kinds of issues trying to just directly bridge a wifi connection to ethernet. The largest being that the encryption keys use the mac address of the wifi adapter. This prevents any other mac address from passing. Things like repeaters use a non standard function called WDS but I don't think windows support that.

ICS though is not some magic solution. It was designed back in they days when people wanted to share a dialup modem connection before the days of routers. They have added some support but it still is pretty basic functionality. It in effect make your pc act as a router. It will give out IP addresses to your other pc on the ethernet cable and then NAT/share the IP that the wifi adapter was given.

I tried that, and once I set it up, it identified both of my networks, the shared one and my wifi adapter, as unidentified networks.

 

[idunnoy]

well..
open network adapters, click on properties on bridge
uncheck wifi from there, connect with wifi normally
run cmd (win+r -> cmd -> enter) and type ipconfig
go back to netowrk adapters -> bridge properties -> check wifi to be bridged again
setup ip for wifi manualy, to what u see in ipconfig for wifi a adapter from before

my guess would be either u used same ip as for bridge, or wrong subnet

I was using 192.168.100.137 for both