Question Consultation regarding my next system

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Hi all,

Wanted to consult regarding my next system.
  • type: desktop
  • budget: up to 4300 US$
  • usage: games (i like rpg games such as skyrim, dragon age inquisition, baldur's gate 3, cyberpunk 2077 etc.) and general use
my current planned build is:
  • motherboard - ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI)
  • cpu - AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X
  • hard drive - os - Corsair Force MP600 PCIe NVMe M.2 2280 500GB SSD
  • hard drive - data - Corsair MP400 PCIe NVMe M.2 2280 4TB SSD
  • memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16GB DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 Kit
  • graphics card - Asus ROG-STRIX-RTX3070-O8G-GAMING
  • and of course case, ps, cooler etc (no monitor needed)
would love to hear your opinion!
  1. general opinion of my candidate build above
  2. should i wait for intel to come out with their gen 11 desktop cpus?
  3. should i buy all but the gpu, and wait with the gpu purchase a bit? (i currently have GTX970)
thanks a lot.
 
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Good to be thinking about a top end build.
Unfortunately, the 5000 series processors and the 3000 series graphics cards are largely out of stock.
I do not expect that situation to clear until first quarter next year.
At that time, 11th gen Intel rocket lake launch will be near and I would want to see what that will be all about.
I do not think Intel will lightly relinquish the top dog gaming processor to amd.
The new Inel architecture has apparently had a 19% IPC boost to rival amd 5000 series.
For your favored game types, the single thread processor performance is the most important metric.
ryzen 5000 is a good pick there.
Not so much for the number of threads.
8 should be enough unless you play multiplayer with many participants.

Do you have a monitor now?
What resolution will you be playing at?
The higher the resolution, the more important the graphics card becomes, compared to the processor.
If you are looking at gaming on a 4k monitor, a 3080 class card will be in order.
If you have the itch to buy something now, buy a large widescreen monitor with 4k resolution.
You will get a better idea of what it takes to run it.
A case is fun to shop for, and a top quality psu in the 750-850w range would be ok to buy now.

Your list included ssd devices, not hard drives.
That is very good.

I think I would be looking at Samsung or Intel for solid ssd devices.
They can do a better job of quality and integration.
Apparently many ssd makers source their controllers and nand chips elsewhere.
What is initially benchmarked may not be what you get even with the same part number.
The ssd is just too important to go cheap.
Ditto on power supplies.
 

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thats a solid setup here

since your budget is high, consider getting a 3600 C16 kit
ryzen 2 and 3 internal communication between cores is tied to ram speed. up to 3733 mhz

so the best ram is a kit approaching this value at the lowest CAS possible.


As for the SSD, get a crucial or samsung. no need for the most expensive ones either. the difference between the lasted and greatest and mainstream SSDs are not perceptible by humans (like charging a file in 0,2 s instead of 0,1s technically the second one is twice as faster but who cares)

as for the case, im a big fan of the Lian Li's LanCool II . just get a pack of 5 fans in bulk on amazon. oh and fan splitters to plug and control everything from your motherboard
 
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thank you for your replies and insight!
  1. i have a good 4k monitor. does that change your thoughts regarding the gpu? would RTX3070 not cut it?
  2. i can get the cpu now but the gpu is nowhere to be seen. that's why i brought up the option to buy all but the gpu, in hopes that once its available RTX3080 may be reasonably priced. do you still think i should wait for rocket lake ?
  3. regarding the ssd
    1. is Corsair a bad choice?
    2. i picked a fast one for OS and a large one (i need ~4tb) for data. would you recommend just getting one large one for both?
    3. i couldn't find any other M.2 NVMe that were 4tb and reasonably priced. do you know of any?
  4. I added my current system in my signature as reference
 
1. The 3080 reviews I have read say that is what you need for 4k gaming.
At $700 MSRP, that is a good deal.
But, you will have to wait for supply to open up.

2. If you have a need now, go ahead and buy now.
It looks like you need it.
But, if you have the itch to spend now, You can buy a case, psu and ssd now.
They are not likely to change much in the next few months.

If you buy now, ryzen 5000 series looks very good.
My only caveat is that new products sometimes take a couple of months in the field to get minor glitches worked out.

If gtx970 will serve for a while, hang on.
If you must buy a stronger gpu, consider used. You can likely resell it reasonably later.
Or, buy a EVGA card and plan on using their 90 day free trade up option.
But, there is no guarantee that a 3000 series card will be available by then.

3. Truth is that all ssd devices perform mostly alike.
But quality does matter. ssd prices are constantly getting better.
I think I would buy a 2tb samsung 970 evo plus for windows and leave it be until you actually need more space.

What kind of data storage do you need?
If it is large sequential files such as videos, buy a HDD.
The cost per gb is less and sequential access speeds are good.
If you want a ssd for bulk storage, the Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" comes in up to 8tb sizes.
 
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thanks @geofelt

I think you're right - it could be better to get a larger (~2tb) m.2 drive for os and programs/games and a regular ssd for storage.
the data storage ssd shall be used mostly for movies, backups etc. but also for some video editing and recording.

i shall muster my patience and wait for January-ish to see if anything changes and then come back to this thread for more brainstorming and advice :)

thanks all!
 
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so do we all agree that AMD is still the right way to go, plus rtx 3070/80?

thanks in advance.
RTX 3080 for 4K.

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-firecuda-520-2tb/p/N82E16820248109 <--- PCIe 4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082VTVP51/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6 <---HS

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-4tb/p/N82E16820250121 <--- storage SSD

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K16G36C16U4B/dp/B083TRXZ98 <--- CL16
 
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so do we all agree that AMD is still the right way to go, plus rtx 3070/80?

thanks in advance.
Not necessarily.
It would appear that the upcoming rocket lake will be at least as good and perhaps better than amd for gaming.
Unless you have an urgent need, I would wait a bit and see.
Then, also, there will be the issue of availability.
Depending on where you are, 5000 series amd processors are hard to buy.
Do not support the scalpers and pay 2x the list price.

Ditto on 3000 series grapics cards.

On storage, a HDD will be perfectly adequate for bulk sequential storage such as videos and backups. No need to pay more per gb for such.

HDD is also very good for external backup.
 
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On storage, a HDD will be perfectly adequate for bulk sequential storage such as videos and backups. No need to pay more per gb for such.

HDD is also very good for external backup.
wouldn't you say though that SSD is more reliable and predictable?
currently i use a raid 5 array with HDDs and over time multiple drives have failed and my data was saved due to the raid. in my new setup i wanted to avoid having to use raid, and so i thoug that using a SSD would allow me to get similar levels of reliability.

I have an automatic and quite inclusive backup, but nothing beats the drive just not failing :)
 
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