CPU upgrade. DX12 doubt.

[Tommynew]

Well, tomorrow im ordering a new cpu, but im hesitating because i dont know if dx12 finally will bost 8 cores or hyperthreading.

I was going to buy an 4690k but i maybe i should reconsider it and go for a 8350 or 4790k.

So those are the options:
4690k
8350
4790k (only if it is really necessary)

What should i do?

 

[i7Baby]

If you have enough in your budget then get the i7.

 

[Mohammed Adhil]

Get An i7 4790K Because:-
1.Higher 3DMark Score Than AMD
2.Higher Graphics Score
3.Higher Physics Score Than FX8350
4.More Combined Score
5.Wins All Graphics Test
6.Firestrike INTEL:7507 Points
AMD:6885 Points

There You Have It Go Get A i7 4790K Now

 

[bootcher]

Directx12 will make better use of the CPU, whether it is dual core or 8-core. You will see a performance boost for basically any CPU. The biggest boost will be for the GPU though, so I wouldn't expect to be let down if you have any of those CPU's you mention. The intels will continue to perform better.

 

[Tommynew]

Btw the question is not only between the fx and the i7.
The i5 is still an option.
I know the i7 is better than the i5, but its the i5 good enough?

Thank you all for the responses.

 

[bootcher]

Btw the question is not only between the fx and the i7.
The i5 is still an option.
I know the i7 is better than the i5, but its the i5 good enough?

Thank you all for the responses.

Yes, the i5 will still be more than enough. The i5 will perform better than it does now under dx11, as the FX also will perform better.

 

[Tommynew]

Btw the question is not only between the fx and the i7.
The i5 is still an option.
I know the i7 is better than the i5, but its the i5 good enough?

Thank you all for the responses.

Yes, the i5 will still be more than enough. The i5 will perform better than it does now under dx11, as the FX also will perform better.

And it will be enough for the "future". About 2-4 years maybe?.

Thank you again.

 

[bootcher]

Past CPU's have traditionally been good for at least 1-2 years, high end cpu's (or overclockable cpu's to reach high end performance) can have a larger lifespan. In general it is safe to say 2 years, but more than that is hard to predict.

 

[NightAntilli]

Get An i7 4790K Because:-
1.Higher 3DMark Score Than AMD
2.Higher Graphics Score
3.Higher Physics Score Than FX8350
4.More Combined Score
5.Wins All Graphics Test
6.Firestrike INTEL:7507 Points
AMD:6885 Points

There You Have It Go Get A i7 4790K Now

Is less than 650 points worth double the price......?

 

[Tommynew]

Past CPU's have traditionally been good for at least 1-2 years, high end cpu's (or overclockable cpu's to reach high end performance) can have a larger lifespan. In general it is safe to say 2 years, but more than that is hard to predict.

And considering it already has 1 year does it mean it will only last 1 more year?

 

[synphul]

I5 2500k's are 4yrs old and still strong contenders. It's barely worth the cost for the performance gained to upgrade to the current 4690k. Skylake would be about the earliest worthwhile upgrade for those using 4yr old cpu's. Those with i5 3rd gen are facing the same dilemma, is it worth upgrading to skylake? Probably not. We'll have to see the benchmarks once they're out and actually in use to see just how much of a performance jump there is but it's likely to be the same as haswell was to sandy.

 

[Tommynew]

I5 2500k's are 4yrs old and still strong contenders. It's barely worth the cost for the performance gained to upgrade to the current 4690k. Skylake would be about the earliest worthwhile upgrade for those using 4yr old cpu's. Those with i5 3rd gen are facing the same dilemma, is it worth upgrading to skylake? Probably not. We'll have to see the benchmarks once they're out and actually in use to see just how much of a performance jump there is but it's likely to be the same as haswell was to sandy.

by the way, when will skylake be launched?

Thank you.

 

[i7Baby]

If you have enough in your budget then get the i7.

I have seen that you like people to spend big bucks on crap they wolnt use ,no offence

The OP listed it. Not me.

 

[synphul]

Rumors are still floating, skylake should be in a couple months though. 3rd quarter of this year, some of have speculated it might be released soon after being announced at the intel developer forum in mid august. No hard dates have been released yet though, so it could be as soon as august (probably won't be when win10 goes public in july) or it could be later, sept/oct.

 

[Tommynew]

wow now im hesitating even more.
Maybe i should wait for skylake?

 

[LetsPlayThisBro]

Rumors are still floating, skylake should be in a couple months though. 3rd quarter of this year, some of have speculated it might be released soon after being announced at the intel developer forum in mid august. No hard dates have been released yet though, so it could be as soon as august (probably won't be when win10 goes public in july) or it could be later, sept/oct.

I suspect the Skylake chips they first release aren't going to be the ones geared to the gaming rig market per se, as they're still trying to promote the idea of X99 being the best for gaming. I expect Q2 or 3 2016 to be when they start dropping the real performance Skylake chips.

Win10 will be out July 31st, and I won't be upgrading until at least 3 months after that if for no reason other than to see if it has a lot of kinks to work out.

 

[NightAntilli]

If you can wait, I'd wait for the 14nm chips. Going for 28nm or 22nm now seems like such a waste.

 

[synphul]

I'm not sure how they're trying to promote x99 as the best for gaming. Bench after bench shows little to no improvement over the z97 for gaming unless running multiple monitors with heavy sli/crossfire setups pushing 4 cards. Which most people aren't. The only reason for that is the wider pcie lanes. Not to mention how cost prohibitive it is to most gamers. Someone can easily build an entire z97 system for just the cost of the 5960x chip alone and may only lose 3-5fps give or take a few.

 

[bootcher]

It depends on what you want to upgrade from. If your current CPU is still a good one, or it might have some extra lifespan if you can overclock it, it might not be worth upgrading now.

 

[LetsPlayThisBro]

I'm not sure how they're trying to promote x99 as the best for gaming. Bench after bench shows little to no improvement over the z97 for gaming unless running multiple monitors with heavy sli/crossfire setups pushing 4 cards. Which most people aren't. The only reason for that is the wider pcie lanes. Not to mention how cost prohibitive it is to most gamers. Someone can easily build an entire z97 system for just the cost of the 5960x chip alone and may only lose 3-5fps give or take a few.

There are a lot of gamers out there building 5820k builds on the X-99 platform just for the extra cores. I understand it's not needed for gaming, but what I'm saying is there is still a market for X-99 sales and they're not in a hurry to undercut that until next year.

I'm an a Z-97/i74790k myself and don't see myself upgrading to Skylake at all, as I think it will be rather underwhelming.

But it's all about how comfortable you are spending a lot of money, some people have a "keeping up with the Jones'" mentality and demand the "best of the best" even if that only translates to the most recent with only 3% performance improvements. I say value and need are far more important factors, but to each their own.

Every time I see a thread here that says, "Should I upgrade now or wait?" I always want to ask the same question, why are you upgrading? What can't you do with your current rig that you will be able to do with a new one or even single new part?

Do I want to upgrade every time there is a slightly better product to replace an older one in my rig, yes... do I need to? No... why? Value, I haven't used what I bought last year long enough to justify the cost. If I have the surplus income then perhaps I would look at it differently but really my rig does everything I need it to do right now and the only upgrade I'm always considering is those which effect GPU/Monitor/gaming because the CPU is rarely a bottleneck and only when it is should a chipset upgrade be on the agenda. But that's my perspective on it, others might think differently.

There is no one right way, it's the way that works for you that matters.

 

[Tommynew]

It depends on what you want to upgrade from. If your current CPU is still a good one, or it might have some extra lifespan if you can overclock it, it might not be worth upgrading now.

i5 650, need an urgent upgrade xd.

Also, is it possible that skylake will be more expensive rigth?.

 

[bootcher]

If you upgrade to current generation i5 you will have a major upgrade, definitely worth your money. Even the FX is a good upgrade from the i5 650. Waiting for future CPU's can be disappointing since usually the difference from current generation is not so much, and also the bigger price tag that they tend to come with.

 

[teknobug]

If DX12 is anything like Mantle, the benefit scaling would diminish with higher end CPU's, largest gain with lower end CPU's and smaller gains with an i7 or OC'd 8350.

That i5 650 is rather antique. I'd wait for Skylake though.

 

[Tommynew]

Thats the point, even if i will finnaly choose the 4690k, maybe i should wait for August only to see what happens, prices... etc.

Its only 1 2 months.

If skylake wont be launched in 2 months that will be the problem because as i said and you confirm, i5 650 needs to be replaced asap.

 

[bootcher]

I would just do the upgrade now. The performance gain from Skylake will not be much, 10-15% maybe. An overclocked i5 will be good for at least 2 years to come.